The most expensive Northern record never played at Wigan

[Fiftyboiledeggs]

Any ideas folks?

[Trev Thomas]

mello souls , junior mccants

[Soulman]

Alright Trev.... trust you are OK.

A tongue in cheek guess would be the original Frank Wilson..... I mean the acetates and boots were two a penny but were on the decks week in week out LOL

Steve

[Davey S]

Junior Mcants.

[Steve M]

Junior McCants, Pat Brady? 

[Peter Richer]

A number of Shrine records, such as:

Prophets,

J D Bryant,

Counts. 

[Dave Pinch]

8-3-1..gay with an E

[Dobber]

You mean expensive at the time,or have become valuable with time?

[Dobber]

4 hours ago, Peter Richer said:

A number of Shrine records, such as:

Prophets,

J D Bryant,

Counts. 

I never went to the casino (before my time) but surely to god any of the shrine output wasn’t discovered or played there? And if it did,want chance would it have had against class tunes as joe 90?

[Solidsoul]

1 hour ago, Dobber said:

I never went to the casino (before my time) but surely to god any of the shrine output wasn’t discovered or played there? And if it did,want chance would it have had against class tunes as joe 90?

That's a bit of an daft statement considering all the wonderful and total classic Northern Soul records that were played at Wigan Casino allnighters! Just about every great Northern Soul record that was popular up till 1981, was played there!

Yes there were some bad ones, but far outnumbered by the good!  I know Shrine's Eddie Day and the Four Bars was a monster sound there!

You have to remember it was not all sorted out, like it is now! 

We were all young and hearing new records just about everyday.

 

Edited April 4, 2023 by Solidsoul

[Peter Richer]

23 minutes ago, Dobber said:

I never went to the casino (before my time) but surely to god any of the shrine output wasn’t discovered or played there? And if it did,want chance would it have had against class tunes as joe 90?

Ha, ha … yes, the worst excesses do seem to put a dark shadow over a lot of the great records played. 

Richard Searling had Eddie Daye covered up (as Frank Wilson, no less).

I believe the D.C. Blossoms may have been spun at the Mecca. The first Shrine to get a public airing, I think.

Also, I have a late ‘70s Soul Bowl list with the Cautions ‘No Other Way’ at a huge (for the time) £60; plus, a Manship tape of current ‘biggies’ with Les Chansonettes on it, from the same period.

Different styles became more acceptable later on. But, apart from that, any really great discoveries after Wigan closed are of course more likely to be rarer, and hence more expensive. 
 

[Davey S]

Eddie Daye definitely got spun at the Casino and probably a few more Shrine.

[Keamus]

Was Ray Pollard 'This Time' a late Casino spin?

Certainly well known when I got into things in '83. 

[Chris Turnbull]

George Pepp?

[Geeselad]

On a tangent but simply interested, were there any rare tunes that were exclusive to Yate, Cleethorpes or the Mecca?

[Eddie Hubbard]

14 hours ago, Geeselad said:

On a tangent but simply interested, were there any rare tunes that were exclusive to Yate, Cleethorpes or the Mecca?

Definitely Geese ,sounds like “ Philly Dog Around The World “ was exclusive to Levine at the Mecca for a while ,Burning Bush was a Ginger special at Cleethorpes etc for a while .There are undoubtedly loads more .cheers Eddie 

[Solidsoul]

45 minutes ago, Eddie Hubbard said:

Definitely Geese ,sounds like “ Philly Dog Around The World “ was exclusive to Levine at the Mecca for a while ,Burning Bush was a Ginger special at Cleethorpes etc for a while .There are undoubtedly loads more .cheers Eddie 

I agree partly, but these dj's were doing lots of different venues at the time, so no sound is exclusive to a particular venue. Richard Searling had "When He's Not Around" by Rose Valentine & the Sisters Three (Little Ann Bridgeforth) which was virtually a Wigan Casino exclusive for years, but he did play it at every other venue he did a dj spot as well!

[Eddie Hubbard]

Yes very true .I think venues like The Highland Room were first with many records ,but after records were uncovered they tended to become more mainstream 

[Eddie Hubbard]

Arthur Willis must be up there ? 

[Merve]

On 04/04/2023 at 17:11, Geeselad said:

On a tangent but simply interested, were there any rare tunes that were exclusive to Yate, Cleethorpes or the Mecca?

Yes. From 77 to 79 apart from a few of Richard's spins all the top newies seemed to be being broken at St Ives, Cleggy and Yate. In 76 Cleggy was deffo way ahead of all the others. Can't comment on The Mecca as I never went but have been told that a lot of spins later big at other venues were first played there.

IMO of course 

[Solidsoul]

16 hours ago, Merve said:

Yes. From 77 to 79 apart from a few of Richard's spins all the top newies seemed to be being broken at St Ives, Cleggy and Yate. In 76 Cleggy was deffo way ahead of all the others. Can't comment on The Mecca as I never went but have been told that a lot of spins later big at other venues were first played there.

IMO of course 

I think both venues in Cleethorpes were finished as allnighers by November 1976. Just alldayers and soul nights after that. The authorities wanted it stopped as an allnighter.

Edited April 22, 2023 by Solidsoul

[Merve]

5 hours ago, Solidsoul said:

I think both venues in Cleethorpes were finished as allnighers by early 1976. Just alldayers and soul nights after that. The authorities wanted it stopped as an allnighter.

Winter Gardens was still running....pretty sure I went after 76

[Solidsoul]

13 minutes ago, Merve said:

Winter Gardens was still running....pretty sure I went after 76

Sorry it was November 1976 the allnighters finished. They had started in Feb 75. The Alldayers started 19th Dec 1976.

Edited April 22, 2023 by Solidsoul

[Merve]

Just now, Solidsoul said:

Sorry it was November 1976 the allnighters finished. They had started in Feb 75.

My mistake then. Apologies.....did they start up again later on or have I completely lost the plot?

[Dogsarse]

quite true the carstairs was a fav at the highland rooms

Just now, Dogsarse said:

quite true the carstairs was a fav at the highland rooms

 

Just now, Dogsarse said:

quite true the carstairs was a fav at the highland rooms

did anyone out there go to the alldayers at stone manor near kidderminster

 

 

[Dobie5]

Not an overly expensive record but how about The Fourmyula - I Dig Your Act , I'm pretty sure this was a Rob Smith exclusive that he regularly played at Notts Palais in the late Seventies but I don't recall ever hearing it played at Wigan.

[Woodbutcher]

3 minutes ago, Dobie5 said:

Not an overly expensive record but how about The Fourmyula - I Dig Your Act , I'm pretty sure this was a Rob Smith exclusive that he regularly played at Notts Palais in the late Seventies but I don't recall ever hearing it played at Wigan.

Thankfully I don't recall hearing it anywhere until just now ... and of that I'm eternally grateful ... 

Now off to find something to erase the memory of ever hearing it at all ... 

[Dobie5]

If it's good enough for Rob Smith mate then it's good enough for me .

 

[Rick Scott]

6 hours ago, Solidsoul said:

I think both venues in Cleethorpes were finished as allnighers by November 1976. Just alldayers and soul nights after that. The authorities wanted it stopped as an allnighter.

That is Correct, Mary Chapman carried on Promoting All - Dayers  for years after that and in Latter Years other Promoters got in on the act and put All-dayers on as well.  

[Woodbutcher]

14 minutes ago, Dobie5 said:

If it's good enough for Rob Smith mate then it's good enough for me .

 

[Dobie5]

[Chalky]

Kell Osborne - Law Against A Heartbreaker

Jackie Day - Naughty Boy

[Zoomsoulblue]

On 04/04/2023 at 16:33, Keamus said:

Was Ray Pollard 'This Time' a late Casino spin?

Certainly well known when I got into things in '83. 

I went 75-81 Casino last 6 every weekend till it closed - don’t remember it being played however too many pills/powder could be to blame - just doesn’t sound like a Casino sound