Over priced listings elsewhere

[Vadnochka]

Am I missing something but it would appear that the 1st page @250 items on discogs  - funk / soul are almost exclusively priced not to sell. Absolutely ludicrous pricing from sellers world-wide - most have been up for sale for years- If you don't view this site - have a look

ridiculous

[Solidsoul]

I agree, and UK Ebay is just as bad! Loads of records way overpriced and been on there a very long time! 

Edited February 15, 2023 by Solidsoul

[Johndelve]

I totally agree about UK ebay. Absolutely ludicrous prices, It's as if everyone who posts things up there has no idea that discogs exists.  

[Mickey Finn]

Amazon used to have this problem with sellers there posting nonsense prices. I guess for chancers one sucker makes it all worthwhile. In a just world it's the kind of sucker who is speculating to accumulate.

[Girdwoodinc]

U.K. and EU sellers are now starting to price themselves out of the market - I’m starting to buy more and more from the States again 

i think there’s a few folks just listing to willy wave and get the odd sale from drunk folks at the weekends 

[John A]

Never had this problem when they used to charge a nominal listing fee. 

[Chalky]

16 hours ago, Girdwoodinc said:

U.K. and EU sellers are now starting to price themselves out of the market - I’m starting to buy more and more from the States again 

i think there’s a few folks just listing to willy wave and get the odd sale from drunk folks at the weekends 

I would sooner pay that bit more for postage than pay the extortionate prices many Uk sellers are asking.  

Let's be honest, it is not just confined to discogs. Ebay is farcical and lists and sales on forums and groups have often laughable prices.

I buy most of my records from discogs at what I consider decent prices.  If I want a record and look at what is for sale I tend not to look after getting three quarters down a list as that is usually the Uk sellers at massively marked up prices compared to say the yanks.  

[Davey S]

Ridiculous prices and the "make me an offer" or "what are you prepared to pay" types, totally puts you off.

 

Dave.

 

 

[Girdwoodinc]

2 hours ago, Chalky said:

I would sooner pay that bit more for postage than pay the extortionate prices many Uk sellers are asking.  

Let's be honest, it is not just confined to discogs. Ebay is farcical and lists and sales on forums and groups have often laughable prices.

I buy most of my records from discogs at what I consider decent prices.  If I want a record and look at what is for sale I tend not to look after getting three quarters down a list as that is usually the Uk sellers at massively marked up prices compared to say the yanks.  

Also the grading in the States is better than U.K. and EU as we’ve all discussed before 

[Geobuch335]

With postage , vat and potentially tax added to foreign record prices driving up prices , dealers here are just pricing records just below potential cost from abroad. Remember record is only worth what is paid for it not what is asked for it. If it’s too dear find something else as there are many to pick from. High prices also tends to mean record has a good chance of being well known …. If you don’t want to pay too much don’t moan just look harder….

[Chalky]

6 hours ago, Girdwoodinc said:

Also the grading in the States is better than U.K. and EU as we’ve all discussed before 

For many yes but there are also many who are no better than the UK sellers.

[Vadnochka]

Further up-date - prices appear to have taken a further jump upwards from many well known British dealers that list set-sale items since I posted originally - absurd 

But it appears everybody's getting in on the act 

Got a price increase notification from Virgin Media today - 17% inclusive - Who the hell do they think they are -the 'nurses'

Look also at the 1st page on Discogs - Funk/Soul (250) - ludicrously priced additions and mid rang (700 -1000) - Page 3 see whats in that segment.

[Woodbutcher]

Your latest offerings disagree , Four Coins overpriced for starters .... !

[Mickey Finn]

8 hours ago, Vadnochka said:

Further up-date - prices appear to have taken a further jump upwards from many well known British dealers that list set-sale items since I posted originally - absurd 

But it appears everybody's getting in on the act 

Got a price increase notification from Virgin Media today - 17% inclusive - Who the hell do they think they are -the 'nurses'

In Finland the media providers are all doing this. Two of the big 3 are doing it Ryanair-style, adding charges to services that can be opted out of following a short grace period. No doubt this is because the regulators force them to do this, but considering the monthly subs they get for packages they design to suit themselves anyway, it's a bit rich.

Would be interested to know if this is a more general trend. I can see why higher electricity prices would force media firms to up prices, but wholesale gas prices are now at their lowest for some time:

https://www.catalyst-commercial.co.uk/wholesale-gas-prices/

Sorry for the off topic digression.

[Solidsoul]

Although if we wonder why all the prices are going up, we should look no further than current auctions!  You can't blame sellers for wanting a piece of the action!

Edited February 23, 2023 by Solidsoul

[Mike]

1 hour ago, Mickey Finn said:

In Finland the media providers are all doing this. Two of the big 3 are doing it Ryanair-style, adding charges to services that can be opted out of following a short grace period. No doubt this is because the regulators force them to do this, but considering the monthly subs they get for packages they design to suit themselves anyway, it's a bit rich.

Would be interested to know if this is a more general trend. I can see why higher electricity prices would force media firms to up prices, but wholesale gas prices are now at their lowest for some time:

https://www.catalyst-commercial.co.uk/wholesale-gas-prices/

Sorry for the off topic digression.

rather than saying 'sorry' it be best if you just don't post such in the first place

it's a topic about vinyl prices, links and invites to talk about wholesale gas prices in our main soul forum are not really welcome 

thanks

[Johndelve]

I can understand sellers hiking up prices on records that have a chance of attracting interest; what is particularly dumb is when records are priced at amounts that are never going to sell in a million years.  And there are thousands of them out there, on ebay particularly. 

[Kenb]

i guess anyone can list a record on ebay, discogs etc, and not even own it? Put a ridiculous price on it that wouldn't attract a buyer's interest, so would never have to produce it for sale. To my knowledge, there is no authentication of ownership. Maybe it's  a 15 minute of fame thing.

[Harrogatesoul]

You do wonder if sellers actually want to sell anything or just lob them onto discogs and ebay in the hope someone bites. I've blocked a few sellers on discogs who want me to drop ship and one who buys stuff and puts super ridiculous prices on (this I did on principle) 

As Chalky rightly states above I've bought more 45s from USA / Europe where the record is priced right and postage is realistic and so far I've avoided duty fees etc. making it far cheaper than UK sellers. 

I did ask one very well known seller if he'd take an offer on a 45 that was priced at least twice as it's actual value only to be turned down. Off I went to the states. Needless to say that 45 is still for sale months on... 

[Corbett80]

Soul record collecting is completely f*cked and bordering on pointless now. Best find something else to do that’s much more fun. 

[Johndelve]

8 hours ago, Corbett80 said:

Soul record collecting is completely f*cked and bordering on pointless now. Best find something else to do that’s much more fun. 

If you/we are talking about 'Northern' related or 'low rider' related soul collecting I would agree with you. However, there are still thousands of records for sale by hundreds of  top soul artists that still sell in the easily affordable to pitifully low ranges.  Paul Kelly, "Don't Burn Me" LP, as good as soul gets, £8.99 on discogs. And for those who only want singles, his 45 of the same name goes for about £4.  

[Steviehay]

i personally think that those in the know peruse cogs and put there price with post to the nearest high price without the vat costs ,those that don't know go to ebay and charge/ask what they like but a certain seller whom i know personally has had records on cogs for years and NONE have sold at his asking price myself i buy all over and as the old saying goes it's what you are prepared to pay ??  

[Vadnochka]

The great thing about discogs is that it is set sale or offer not auction - The number of top sounds I've found on there at a fraction of there perceived UK price I could not remember - so always worth a look but as all sites you have to be relentless or lucky - a combination of the two is usually a winning formula. So skip page 1 & 2 as you'll still be in the'000's. regardless of inflated prices and save 30mins of your life each time.

 

[Twoshoes]

On 24/02/2023 at 16:20, Steviehay said:

it's what you are prepared to pay ??  

And as long as some people are prepared to to pay over the odds on ebay for records they could quite often buy cheaper, graded the same or better others sellers will I guess see that and inflate their prices to match. I've had different results when making an offer on Discogs , some have been accepted, some outright rejected,some accepted after a counter offer from seller and on one occasion I've mentioned on here before no response at all only to get a message saying seller had relisted record at same price as everyone else, record is still listed two years later. 

    Since I started buying again four years ago I've noticed far fewer records with a low starting price on ebay and many starting at price you can buy direct from Discogs. I use Discogs as a guide not a bible regarding prices,  refreshing to see the other day a record  I was watching on ebay that I missed the end time relisted at a cheaper price, at last a seller with common sense.

    On inflated prices a seller the other week listed several Motown records all described as "ultra rare". I thought surely that can't be right, one was £175, a check on Discogs showed 9 for sale ranging from around £14 to £30. It reminded me of the old thread on here Comedy sale of the day.     

      I'm still learning, navigating the minefield of sales, thankfully one thing I have learned is curb the impulse buy, be patient another more often than not in my price range comes along sooner or later. Unfortunately some people are prepared to pay over the odds for quite common records. 

     That's my moan to justify being bottom of the table in record buying with my losses far outnumbering my win column