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Bruce Springsteen does Frank Wilson, give me strength!


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4 minutes ago, Amsterdam Russ said:

The song is way beyond the Northern Soul scene and has been for many a year. It's mainstream Motown pop and nothing more. As far as that song is concerned, it's no different to any artist doing a version of 'Dancing in the Street' or similar.

I agree but "dancing in the street and other classic motown tracks have been covered many times by many artists but I've never hear this covered before but I'm sure someone will prove me wrong.

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Not sure that many Springsteen fans will warm to this project, while most fans of the originals won't either. It's therefore unlikely to be one of his bigger sellers, but if it stimulates interest in the originals in what is still a very racially divided industry in the USA, and generates some income for the writers and their families, then hard to see what's wrong with it. Hearing it will likely be a different story :ohmy:

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I played it to my 'other half' and without hesitation she said Bruce Springsteen. She did think, though, that it lacked the enthusiastic gusto of FW's original.

Have to say, I think the arrangement has quite an authentic feel to it - unlike most modern-day classic Motown covers that have the drums way too high in the mix. On that basis, it might make for an interesting instrumental. :lol:

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The Bruce character is fine. His MOR pop/rock was bareable FWIW. But his soul singing is out of his reach IMHO & covering up looked-up classics is always very hazardous for any artist. Here his take of 'do I love you' is pitiful from the few opening bars and what follows is plainly only very painful to listen to. I had to stop the clip...

13 hours ago, Amsterdam Russ said:

The song is way beyond the Northern Soul scene and has been for many a year. It's mainstream Motown pop and nothing more. As far as that song is concerned, it's no different to any artist doing a version of 'Dancing in the Street' or similar.

But that is exactly what northern soul is to many outside the "scene" at least and even few inside I am certain. As sad as it is there is (always was but it's coming back strong) a "dark" side to the northern soul scenary 😱

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16 hours ago, Amsterdam Russ said:

The song is way beyond the Northern Soul scene and has been for many a year. It's mainstream Motown pop and nothing more. As far as that song is concerned, it's no different to any artist doing a version of 'Dancing in the Street' or similar.

If a much loved underplayed on the mainstream media suddenly got very popular would we automatically disown it. Just thinking aloud really. Is sometimes/mostly our love of records on our scene due to the record itself or the fact it's our little secret.🤔

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19 minutes ago, Leicester Boy said:

If a much loved underplayed on the mainstream media suddenly got very popular would we automatically disown it.

You mean like this one (John E. Paul - I wanna know)?

Back to Bruce Springsteen according to the website Kworb.net, which provides data on tunes being streamed and the like, ol' Brucey has just entered the global iTunes chart at #44. I'm sure it'll climb higher.

https://kworb.net/ww/

It's also at #20 in the YouTube trending chart (which is probably down to all you guys having sneaky listens). :lol:

https://kworb.net/youtube/trending.html

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7 hours ago, Geeselad said:

Well.he couldn't do a worse vocal than Frank, could he. Bruce is getting on but at least sings within his limitations and is in key, unlike Mr Wilson. 

Frank Wilson was a brilliant songwriter, arranger and producer of many great Motown classics, and that's where his strength laid.

That's what's missing with todays music. There will always be people who can sing well, but most of the great writers/ producers like Frank Wilson, who served their time in the 1950's/60's music culture of the USA have gone!

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51 minutes ago, givemesoul said:

If you think Frank Wilson is mainstream motown pop music then you you must class Connie Clark my sugar baby as mainstream pop as well

Why? Just cos it's the same tune reworked?

Connie Clark sings dreadfully off key. No wonder it flopped. Great to dance to in an echoing hall a decade or more after it was recorded, but dirgy to listen to otherwise. 

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11 hours ago, givemesoul said:

If you think Frank Wilson is mainstream motown pop music then you you must class Connie Clark my sugar baby as mainstream pop as well,2 huge records that will still be played after we've all gone and Bruce doesn't need the money he sold his back catalogue for $750 million

Well its not really soul music is it. Just cause they are played on the scene doesn’t make them soul either.

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3 hours ago, givemesoul said:

If you think Frank Wilson is mainstream motown pop music then you you must class Connie Clark my sugar baby as mainstream pop as well,2 huge records that will still be played after we've all gone and Bruce doesn't need the money he sold his back catalogue for $750 million

Frank Wilson's 'do I love you' became that & more. In 1966 it was initialy another Motown record. Featuring still a fabulous Funk Bros. backing track and a good composition. Maybe a bit unusual with it's like 'football' "sing-along/gospel" choruses chant...

That appeared on a very rare withrdrawn release to achieve cult status in this then underground northern soul scene. Now part of a commercial 'folklore' and an auction 'joke' record. Now part of newer bad comedies. Connie Clark 'my sugar baby' I never liked.

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What is Bruce Springsteen's net worth 2021?

$650 million

His lauded career and seminal catalog can be quantified by his $650 million net worth. According to celebritynetworth.com, Springsteen, when touring, can earn a whopping $80 million a year.9 May 2022
 

I very much doubt Bruce cares - it would certainly be his management team, squeezing a bit more out of him to justify there wages 🤔🤔

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I like Bruce Springsteen, as an artist and as a socialist man. However, I'm not sure who this is aimed for really. 'Whitening' of soul music always makes me feel uneasy and this is no exception. The best we can hope for is people hear it and dig a little deeper (like people did with Beatles covers of The Shirelles etc in the 60's) and discover some decent sounds.

One thing that baffles about this thread is the theory that DILY is some underground record? It's been on adverts, TV programmes and numerous CD's and surely everyone knows it now? It's not really a secret is it?

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4 hours ago, ShaunT said:

I like Bruce Springsteen, as an artist and as a socialist man. However, I'm not sure who this is aimed for really. 'Whitening' of soul music always makes me feel uneasy and this is no exception. The best we can hope for is people hear it and dig a little deeper (like people did with Beatles covers of The Shirelles etc in the 60's) and discover some decent sounds.

One thing that baffles about this thread is the theory that DILY is some underground record? It's been on adverts, TV programmes and numerous CD's and surely everyone knows it now? It's not really a secret is it?

I thank all he covers are pretty popular with pop markets and probably why he went for the better known, don’t think he could have picked much whiter “soul” music really in the majority of his choices?

Have to agree with what baffles you, constantly puzzles me too when people on the scene are amazed when Frank Wilson is mentioned in any capacity away from the scene. It is a pop record and definitely not rare given the amount of releases it has had on various formats. 

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5 hours ago, Owd Codger said:

Not sure it's Funk Bros...ian't it more like Wrecking Crew?

You are right,this not the Funk Bros.They are west coast musicians,this why when it was first played and coverd up no one new who it was. If was the Funk Bros,people would have recognised that it was a Motown recording. 

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