Hayes Cotton - Black Wings acetate.

[Woodbutcher]

Well I've seen some rather questionable descriptions on John's site in the past but the way he's bigging-up the weak Session Two recording is the best yet.

It sits at £2800+ at present and lawd knows where it'll end , there must be some desperate folk out there , the issue's 'only' about £1600-2000 now surely.

Might start thinking about letting my Session One Take One 8" acetate go at this rate , it's a much better ballsier cut ... 

I think it's also time I donated my Mum's hearing aids to YKW ... 

https://www.raresoulman.co.uk/hayes-cotton-black-wings-has-my-angel-the-miles-grayson-2nd-session-audio-disc-acetate.html

https://soundcloud.com/woodbutcher-2/hayes-cotton-black-wings-has-my-angel-session1-take-1

 

[Chalky]

There are a handful of the acetates, maybe 8 or 9 that Tim got I think in the early 90s, maybe 91?

[Woodbutcher]

Think there's 5 or 6 Karl , the one John's got up at the moment is definitely one of the weaker takes ... 

[Ted Massey]

Michael Robinson has one of these acetates 

[Mrtag]

I am Pretty sure Tim Brown sold a yellow issue with this same bland take It sounds empty without the harmonica!! Just My humble opinion mind!!

[Mrtag]

the Issue is around £3k plus for a minter!! 

[Chalky]

2 minutes ago, Mrtag said:

I am Pretty sure Tim Brown sold a yellow issue with this same bland take It sounds empty without the harmonica!! Just My humble opinion mind!!

There are two issues

Black Wing HAS and Black Wings HAVE

[Mrtag]

Hi Chalky, Obviously "have" being the better take!! ? 

[Chalky]

Black Wings Have....

Black Wings Has....

 

[Mrtag]

Cheers Chalky!!! Defo "HAVE" by a country mile!! I guess I am biased I am on my 5th copy and everyone A "HAVE" 

[Chalky]

2 hours ago, Mrtag said:

Cheers Chalky!!! Defo "HAVE" by a country mile!! I guess I am biased I am on my 5th copy and everyone A "HAVE" 

Subjective I guess?  Many don't like a harmonica in records.  I don't particularly but I do prefer the take with it in, gives a bit more oomph.

[Quinvy]

Don’t know what you’re on about. The “has” version is far superior to me. The beat lends itself to dancing. The “have” version is “ponderous” to say the least.

The “has” issue is much rarer too. I’ve never heard that version played out.

 

[Benji]

I like both cuts. Both proper stomping Northern. 

But what I don‘t understand is what he‘s singing about. Can anyone explain that to me? Lyrics don‘t make sense to me….

[Simon T]

29 minutes ago, Benji said:

I like both cuts. Both proper stomping Northern. 

But what I don‘t understand is what he‘s singing about. Can anyone explain that to me? Lyrics don‘t make sense to me….

Fallen angels have black wings

apparently,

"Eminent among these angels are Shemyaza, their leader, and Azazel. Like many other fallen angels mentioned in 1 Enoch 8.1–9, Azazel introduces men to "forbidden arts", and it is Azazel who is rebuked by Enoch himself for illicit instruction, as stated in 1 Enoch 13.1."

[Mrtag]

13 hours ago, Chalky said:

Subjective I guess?  Many don't like a harmonica in records.  I don't particularly but I do prefer the take with it in, gives a bit more oomph.

My thoughts exactly!! It's Another Gerri Hall!!!  I like both takes but to hear played out the fuller production takes it every time!!  but it's down to personal choice !!

Edited August 3, 2022 by Mrtag

[Amsterdam Russ]

5 hours ago, Benji said:

I like both cuts. Both proper stomping Northern. 

But what I don‘t understand is what he‘s singing about. Can anyone explain that to me? Lyrics don‘t make sense to me….

All seems straightforward lyrically...

Black wings have my angel
Satan in high heels
Doing the devil's will
A walking lesson in love
She's got a talent for loving
That's my baby
But black wings have my angel
She's a devil (?? something something??)
If she wants to be
Giving just a taste of love
That she says belongs to me
But her smile becomes her so
How can I ever let her go
Although I know
That black wings have my angel
Would have been better had I never known her love
Or heard her whisper in the dark
Could have been better had I never shown my love
Or given her my heart
Shouldn't have given her my heart
She makes my life a (?? something, something?? - could be "a heavy load along a crooked road")
Yes she does
But she loves me twice on Sundays
And thrice on stormy Mondays
And I love her
Oh, I love her
Although I know
That black wings have my angel
But she's my baby
But she's my baby
(Fade out on "Have" version)
But black wings have my angel
But she's my baby
Aw, but she's my baby

Edited August 3, 2022 by Amsterdam Russ
Misin wurd

[Chalky]

4 hours ago, Quinvy said:

Don’t know what you’re on about. The “has” version is far superior to me. The beat lends itself to dancing. The “have” version is “ponderous” to say the least.

The “has” issue is much rarer too. I’ve never heard that version played out.

 

It sounds unfinished to me the 'Has" version

[Benji]

3 hours ago, Amsterdam Russ said:

All seems straightforward lyrically...

Black wings have my angel
Satan in high heels
Doing the devil's will
A walking lesson in love
She's got a talent for loving
That's my baby
But black wings have my angel
She's a devil (?? something something??)
If she wants to be
Giving just a taste of love
That she says belongs to me
But her smile becomes her so
How can I ever let her go
Although I know
That black wings have my angel
Would have been better had I never known her love
Or heard her whisper in the dark
Could have better had I never shown my love
Or given her my heart
Shouldn't have given her my heart
She makes my life a (?? something, something?? - could be "a heavy load along a crooked road")
Yes she does
But she loves me twice on Sundays
And thrice on stormy Mondays
And I love her
Oh, I love her
Although I know
That black wings have my angel
But she's my baby
But she's my baby
(Fade out on "Have" version)
But black wings have my angel
But she's my baby
Aw, but she's my baby

Many thanks, much appreciated. Mind, english isn't my first language. So sometimes it's hard for me to understand lyrics....

[Dave Pinch]

well i think its garbage no matter what version.. wouldn`t have it given.. well i would but then i`d sell it