Gasher Posted February 18, 2007 Posted February 18, 2007 And yes I know about the credits I just want too see the layout again PLEASE
Guest Posted February 18, 2007 Posted February 18, 2007 Richie, I have a scan of BOTH originals & the repro I think..give me a call and we'll send ya them.. john
Soulie78 Posted February 18, 2007 Posted February 18, 2007 John you stated before, that there's also an original with credits. Could you please tell or show with a scan how to spot an original with credits? Thanks & Best Martin
Guest Johnny Mack Posted February 18, 2007 Posted February 18, 2007 Ritchie Scan of my original one attached. I've had this since the mid 70's. Hope this helps. John And yes I know about the credits I just want too see the layout again PLEASE
Dave Fleming Posted February 18, 2007 Posted February 18, 2007 John you stated before, that there's also an original with credits. Could you please tell or show with a scan how to spot an original with credits? Thanks & Best Martin Just to add confusion don`t forget there is two different mix`s of this 45, one with the violin`s and one without Dave f..........
Guest woolie mark Posted February 18, 2007 Posted February 18, 2007 And yes I know about the credits I just want too see the layout again PLEASE the layout is identical rich, except for addition of credits - i haven't seen one of the "originals" with the credits though (although i knew that they existed), but as i've previously posted my personal opinion is that this is the original of the second mix with keyboards and other instrumentation (ie: the "second original") does that make sense? anyway, in answer to your question, the layout is exactly identical
Tommy1 Posted February 18, 2007 Posted February 18, 2007 No I’m really confused here. Until John said that there where “old” originals with the credit name, we where all sure that the one with credit name was a legit second press made by owner, but now… Than there’s the unreleased tracks, the other take of “Gold of my life” with strings that Dave is talking about, great version BTW! And then there is “Am I imposing”, great x-over!, both “newly” released on Rock-way.
Gasher Posted February 18, 2007 Author Posted February 18, 2007 ok how do i tell the difference with the first issue with the credits by looking at them and the bootleg/second issue with the credits?? I have the one with no credits
Mark B Posted February 19, 2007 Posted February 19, 2007 ok how do i tell the difference with the first issue with the credits by looking at them and the bootleg/second issue with the credits?? I have the one with no credits i thought that that the re-issue? credits the engineer as well and the original does not mark
Gasher Posted February 19, 2007 Author Posted February 19, 2007 Mark you really need to keep up to speed on this one haha no there is also a real one with credits too and different paper on the label apparently..and is this one a different mix too??
Guest Posted February 19, 2007 Posted February 19, 2007 Richie Sorry the scan has been deleted on an e-mail. I've asked Justin to send it again, or maybe he'll read this and send it up. I think he may have both 70s releases so he'll let you know if there's a difference in the mixes. But I can confirm his copy is an original and has the "producer" credits at the bottom, it is the only copy he or I have seen. Basically the recent repro the label is like most recent presses, the "paper" is so thin it's resembles one layer of white "paint".. you can't scratch or pick at the edges. That's not a good desciption but if you had the two together, there is a glaringly obvious difference. John
Dave Fleming Posted February 19, 2007 Posted February 19, 2007 Ritchie Scan of my original one attached. I've had this since the mid 70's. Hope this helps. John John out of interest what info is there on the runout groove on your 70s copy?,cheers. Dave f..............
Guest jinx74 Posted February 19, 2007 Posted February 19, 2007 Richie Sorry the scan has been deleted on an e-mail. I've asked Justin to send it again, or maybe he'll read this and send it up. I think he may have both 70s releases so he'll let you know if there's a difference in the mixes. But I can confirm his copy is an original and has the "producer" credits at the bottom, it is the only copy he or I have seen. Basically the recent repro the label is like most recent presses, the "paper" is so thin it's resembles one layer of white "paint".. you can't scratch or pick at the edges. That's not a good desciption but if you had the two together, there is a glaringly obvious difference. John ill get a scan of the label today to yall. i cant find the original scan i did for you last year john. give me a couple of hours being that ive been up all night working. though my label looks like the repros (exactly) its just on different paper so i dont know what good it will really do unless youre here and looking at it. i also only have my OG w/o violins (ive never heard this version... anyone have an MP3?) and the repro that ECole sent me back in 2000.
Guest jinx74 Posted February 19, 2007 Posted February 19, 2007 also know that ECole released a lot of records out here in the bay area. most of which he cant remember doing or so he told me before. i know that he wasnt in all the recording sessions (as told to me by the East Oakland band) so maybe he wasnt around for the entire recording sessions of the Mixed Emotions. maybe thats why there are different pressing/recordings. i dont know i can only guess. i have never spoken to or found any of the ME band members. the engineers family yes... but they only had a copy of the record and knew no stories. ive been to EColes house a few times and he never speaks to me. on the phone its all "hey how ya been?" to me but he only will read the letters i leave in his mailbox and would never answer the door. i saw him once outside watering the lawn and was going to deliver a letter to him of questions i wanted him to answer for me. he said he was too busy to talk and to just drop the letter in the mailbox. he walked away from me after that and closed his garage door. weird...
cressy Posted February 19, 2007 Posted February 19, 2007 (edited) There's a Mixed Emotions on ebay at moment. The seller says This is the Original 1975 release. If you look close there's some writing under the artists name so is it a reissue? click on the link below to see it https://cgi.ebay.com/Northern-Soul-MIXED-EM...1QQcmdZViewItem Edited February 19, 2007 by cressy
Guest Johnny Mack Posted February 19, 2007 Posted February 19, 2007 Dave For what its worth, the run out groove has EC 5709 A hand scratched and diagonally opposite a small hand scratched circle with the letters BA inside John out of interest what info is there on the runout groove on your 70s copy?,cheers. Dave f..............
Martyn Pitt Posted February 19, 2007 Posted February 19, 2007 For what its worth, the run out groove has EC 5709 A hand scratched and diagonally opposite a small hand scratched circle with the letters BA inside Mine also has " Original will be issued in 20 years " (wheres the tongue in cheek smiley) Martyn
Jason S Posted February 19, 2007 Posted February 19, 2007 (edited) There's a Mixed Emotions on ebay at moment. The seller says This is the Original 1975 release. If you look close there's some writing under the artists name so is it a reissue? click on the link below to see it https://cgi.ebay.com/Northern-Soul-MIXED-EM...1QQcmdZViewItem It looks used and the X's on the label would suggest it's old. Mind you, it could be a clever ruse to make folk think it's an original WITH the engineer's name when infact it's a reissue, or it may be one of those mystical originals with Engineer's name - who knows. Jinx74's story of Mr Cole's action's speak volumes about the tangled web this whole thing has become...reality and fiction seems to have become blurred into one on this one. Edited February 19, 2007 by J-Brew
Guest jinx74 Posted February 20, 2007 Posted February 20, 2007 It looks used and the X's on the label would suggest it's old. Mind you, it could be a clever ruse to make folk think it's an original WITH the engineer's name when infact it's a reissue, or it may be one of those mystical originals with Engineer's name - who knows. Jinx74's story of Mr Cole's action's speak volumes about the tangled web this whole thing has become...reality and fiction seems to have become blurred into one on this one. totally agree with you. reality and fiction are one and the same with this rec. so many stories and not one person to say whats true. plus ive never met anyone in the bay whos heard of Mixed Emotions. as far as i know, the only real way to see if its original or not is the E in the dead wax. all originals have it as a backwards 3 while the repro looks like an E. am i correct in thinking this? also, there is a BA in circle on the og and the repro. havent done the scan yet. just got home. will try and get it up here on the board by tomorrow at the latest.
Guest woolie mark Posted February 20, 2007 Posted February 20, 2007 ill get a scan of the label today to yall. i cant find the original scan i did for you last year john. give me a couple of hours being that ive been up all night working. though my label looks like the repros (exactly) its just on different paper so i dont know what good it will really do unless youre here and looking at it. i also only have my OG w/o violins (ive never heard this version... anyone have an MP3?) and the repro that ECole sent me back in 2000. hi justin has your copy from the 70s with the arranger's credits got keyboards on the arrangement? could you also tell us what the matrix number is (is it EC 5709?)? thanks and best wishes, mark
Dave Fleming Posted February 20, 2007 Posted February 20, 2007 Dave For what its worth, the run out groove has EC 5709 A hand scratched and diagonally opposite a small hand scratched circle with the letters BA inside Thats the same markings as the copy i have with the Arranger credits on which i believe to be the reissue?? The copy i have with the violins on has different markings to the above they are "9752-GOLD-7 (A) R-19663" also the vinyl is thicker and has a slightly raised edge/rim on it which i beleive to be one of the recent pressing`s as opposed to the above vinyl which is thinner and has a flat sharp edge on it. There you go clear as mud Dave f...............
Karlm Posted March 5, 2007 Posted March 5, 2007 I won the eBay copy linked here and can after comparements to Jason's scans confirm it's the real deal - correct paper quality and backward 3 as a E in the run out groove.
Tommy1 Posted March 5, 2007 Posted March 5, 2007 Gold of my life - piano and violin version - mixed emotions - rock-way 15636 refosoul Here is the version with piano and violin. The violin sounds a bit like Dexys midnight runners IMO
Guest woolie mark Posted March 5, 2007 Posted March 5, 2007 I won the eBay copy linked here and can after comparements to Jason's scans confirm it's the real deal - correct paper quality and backward 3 as a E in the run out groove. well done mate - looks to me like you got a real bargain there
Guest Johnny Mack Posted March 5, 2007 Posted March 5, 2007 Out of curiosity I bought a copy of the re-issue and itss certainly a different mix. I'll post a compare photo scan and sound track from both copies tomorrow. Got some birthday celebrating to do tonite John
Gasher Posted March 5, 2007 Author Posted March 5, 2007 ok so which one had the violin not mine thats for sure? clarify please
Tommy1 Posted March 5, 2007 Posted March 5, 2007 ok so which one had the violin not mine thats for sure? clarify please It looks exactly as the other 2nd issues. I got mine from Elija some time ago, don't know how to see which one he's selling...
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