Has Tommy Tate's 'hold On' Lp On Malaco Been Reissued?

[Paul Capon]

All,

After a long wait (10 years!!) I've recently managed to get Tommy Tate's LP ' Hold on' on MALACO which contains the sublime 'I can't do enough for you baby' (sorry if I outbid anyone who was after it!!!!!!).

It arrived in mint condition and looks almost too good!!! Is anyone aware of this LP being re-released?

I've run through all the usual channels (google searches and Japanese site translactions, Ebay searches etc.) and I've also emailed Malaco customer services (no response yet) and can find no evidence of a re-release.

So does anybody have any info?

If someone has a copy could they dig it out and mail me at xoversoul'at'ntlworld.com (replace 'at' with @) with their phone number so we can compare all the numbers, matrix numbers, sleeve info.

Some please put my mind at ease.

Cheers,

Paul Capon

Edited February 13, 2007 by souler

[Garethx]

Haven't heard of this being "re-issued" as such. I suspect Malaco customer services won't know much about this release, as it was issued about twenty eight years ago, and in any case the Japanese releases of previously unissued material from around that time often present something of a legal minefield. The slick packaging sometimes obscures the fact that these companies were releasing material they had no legal claim to.

Well done for snagging one, Paul: as you say, I Can't Do Enough is sublime: in my book one of the very best soul records ever made by anyone, full stop.

[Paul Capon]

Gareth,

I mailed the guy I bought it from and he has confirmed that it was bought in 1981 from 'Spin Inn' records in Manchester along with loads of other Jap stuff so I'm 100% happy now.

I look forward to playing it at the Red Lion, Hoxton St on Sunday 18th Feb (plug plug!!)

Paul Capon

[Guest Adrian]

Was going to say, i think it is purely a malaco/p vine pressing.

From a site:

Very rare Japanese release of unissued? or just rare tracks by Tate.

Is it 70's stuff?

[Paul Capon]

Adrian,

It's was released in 1979. There is a sound clip of 'I can't do enough for you baby' in the 'Sounds' section of this site.

ta

Paul

[Dylan]

So this is a japanese release or US ? forgive my ignorance.....

I'm assuming a Japanese release of some sort which may or not be legitimate judging by some of the comments above.

[Garethx]

It's a Japanese only release from '79 on a Malaco imprint through Vivid Sound. I believe the tracks (which are essentially songwriters' demos) were actually recorded a few years earlier. James Carr released "Hold On" on Atlantic 2803 in 1970/71, and the Tate demo of the song provides this release with its title track. I don't think Tate was contracted to Malaco as an artist throughout this time.

It appears to have been pressed in very small quantities and very rarely turns up for sale. I became aware of it in the 80s via a tape Mark 'Binsy' Taylor did for me of primarily Japanese-released soul. I think he received the track "I Can't Do Enough" via John Ridley.

In the last few years Grapevine have released I Can't Do Enough on at least one CD compilation and maybe as a single too. Perhaps Paul Mooney can confirm the full story behind the Japanese release. I'm not suggesting there is anything murky about this particular album, but I have been told that Vivid Sound often released tracks when they had sketchy permissions to do so at best.

As I stated above, I think this is one of the most scintillating vocal performances in soul history: Tate's double tracking with himself is miraculous in its skill and dexterity, and the bloodcurdling climaxes in delivery are a perfect example of what the art of soul singing is all about. The track has rightfully become an anthem at Soul Essence: who played it first there? Perhaps Gavin Page or Gareth Donovan can fill us in...

[Them]

Hi Paul, hope you're well. Would you show me a scan of the jacket please? Great midtempo that tune is!

Edited February 13, 2007 by them

[Paul Capon]

Here's the cover

[Sean Hampsey]

Never been reissued Paul.

Tis proper!

Sean

[Them]

Thank you Paul. Tasty jacket...

[Girthdevon]

It's a Japanese only release from '79 on a Malaco imprint through Vivid Sound. I believe the tracks (which are essentially songwriters' demos) were actually recorded a few years earlier. James Carr released "Hold On" on Atlantic 2803 in 1970/71, and the Tate demo of the song provides this release with its title track. I don't think Tate was contracted to Malaco as an artist throughout this time.

It appears to have been pressed in very small quantities and very rarely turns up for sale. I became aware of it in the 80s via a tape Mark 'Binsy' Taylor did for me of primarily Japanese-released soul. I think he received the track "I Can't Do Enough" via John Ridley.

In the last few years Grapevine have released I Can't Do Enough on at least one CD compilation and maybe as a single too. Perhaps Paul Mooney can confirm the full story behind the Japanese release. I'm not suggesting there is anything murky about this particular album, but I have been told that Vivid Sound often released tracks when they had sketchy permissions to do so at best.

As I stated above, I think this is one of the most scintillating vocal performances in soul history: Tate's double tracking with himself is miraculous in its skill and dexterity, and the bloodcurdling climaxes in delivery are a perfect example of what the art of soul singing is all about. The track has rightfully become an anthem at Soul Essence: who played it first there? Perhaps Gavin Page or Gareth Donovan can fill us in...

A surefire spin for me in recent years......A New Chapter, Soul Essence & Monumental........mine came from Soul Bowl for a very reasonable price. First to spin at Essence was Rod Dearlove I think, I'm sure Mark 'TGA' H can confirm.

Girf

[Guest]

Re-activating this old thread saves me typing out a sales blurb...I have a copy for sale in near mint condition cover/insert/sleeve...the rarest of the Japanese LP release in my experience of digging weekly over here for almost a decade...£125 +P&P.

 

SOLD

 

Edited November 5, 2013 by Flynny

[Heikki]

Hi!

 

https://www.soulexpress.net/tommytate_discography.htm

 

Best regards

Heikki

[Glynthornhill]

Just an add to this have some old Tommy Tate unreleased stuff from 1980 's that came courtesy Mike Ward - poor quality , but pretty sure they never gained a commercial release....

Will have to check the titles see if they got issued on the Japanese CD ' s .

[John Reed]

Thought this LP's linked to when Baylor took TT & Luther Ingram to Muscle Shoals for his Stax distributed KoKo stuff isnt it, as I would have thought TT met Carson Whisett when he was in the Nightingales?