Soulboy60 Posted March 19, 2022 Posted March 19, 2022 Does anyone know anything about the 'Silhouettes Not Me Baby' Re-pro with 'James Bounty's Prove yourself a lady' on the flip? I'm not talking about the 'Goldmine' re-issue or the Carver but the look-a-like Boot. Think it's a 70s issue.
Theothertosspot Posted March 19, 2022 Posted March 19, 2022 (edited) Is your question regarding the one that sold on eBay last night? Edited March 19, 2022 by Theothertosspot
Chalky Posted March 19, 2022 Posted March 19, 2022 The one sold last night didn't have James Bounty on the flip, it had what is on the original. The only 70s boot I was aware of was the White demo one.
Blackpoolsoul Posted March 19, 2022 Posted March 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Chalky said: The one sold last night didn't have James Bounty on the flip, it had what is on the original. The only 70s boot I was aware of was the White demo one. Somebody got a bargain then at £205 16 bids "THE SILHOUETTES, NOT ME BABY, NORTHERN SOUL. VG++, lovely play, rare 70's reissue."
Theothertosspot Posted March 19, 2022 Posted March 19, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chalky said: The one sold last night didn't have James Bounty on the flip, it had what is on the original. The only 70s boot I was aware of was the White demo one. It was also booted on a blank label (light blue) the same time as Little Eddie Taylor, IHAGT, also on a light blue blank label. Can put scans up of them tomorrow. Edited March 19, 2022 by Theothertosspot Added text 2
Chalky Posted March 19, 2022 Posted March 19, 2022 58 minutes ago, Theothertosspot said: It was also booted on a blank label (light blue) the same time as Little Eddie Taylor, IHAGT, also on a light blue blank label. Can put scans up of them tomorrow. Yeah remember the boot now, black text
El Corol Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 15 hours ago, Chalky said: The one sold last night didn't have James Bounty on the flip, it had what is on the original. The only 70s boot I was aware of was the White demo one. Despite it having a label showing the original b side, it does play James Bounty on the b side.
Chalky Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, El Corol said: Despite it having a label showing the original b side, it does play James Bounty on the b side. Yes I know I read that in an earlier reply. The eBay add though doesn't tell you that. Has to be a carver I'd have thought as I don't recall seeing a 70s reissue like that unless I missed it completely or totally forgot about it? 1
Spook Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) IMO what this 45 is, somebody had the 70's bootleg and put printed labels over the label on each side. Or if it played James bounty on the flip they have the drilled out the centre with a hole cutter and put printed labels on each side. Edited March 20, 2022 by Spook 3
Chalky Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 Just now, Spook said: IMO what this 45 is, somebody has bought the goldmine 45 drilled out the centre with a hole cutter and put printed labels over the goldmine label on each side. yep I was just looking what the Goldmine release had on the flip. I have to agree with you as that is the only release with this pairing. 1
Theothertosspot Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 Record didn’t sell anyway, buyer pulled out. 2
Soulboy60 Posted March 20, 2022 Author Posted March 20, 2022 Hi all. Yeah, I'm the one who almost fell for it being 'real' but it didn't feel right. So looked around and found a couple of copies on 'Popsike' that had been sold some time time ago, when I looked at the labels closely I could see that they all had the exact identical amount of 'wear' to them, and one seller saying that the flip was not 'Gaucho Serenade'. Got me thinking so contacted the seller who admitted the flip was 'James Bounty'. What was the point of trying to sell a fake like that, even if you didn't know much about the tune everyone knows 'James Bounty' so would know straight away that it wasn't real. The idea of the 'Goldmine' issue being drilled out and re-labeled sounds very plausible as the White demo and plain Blue Boot's that we all know of have have the correct flip. But why would someone go to all that trouble to create a boot with the wrong 'B' side? 2
Blackpoolsoul Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Soulboy60 said: Hi all. Yeah, I'm the one who almost fell for it being 'real' but it didn't feel right. So looked around and found a couple of copies on 'Popsike' that had been sold some time time ago, when I looked at the labels closely I could see that they all had the exact identical amount of 'wear' to them, and one seller saying that the flip was not 'Gaucho Serenade'. Got me thinking so contacted the seller who admitted the flip was 'James Bounty'. What was the point of trying to sell a fake like that, even if you didn't know much about the tune everyone knows 'James Bounty' so would know straight away that it wasn't real. The idea of the 'Goldmine' issue being drilled out and re-labeled sounds very plausible as the White demo and plain Blue Boot's that we all know of have have the correct flip. But why would someone go to all that trouble to create a boot with the wrong 'B' side? Because not all bootleggers have brains 1
Theothertosspot Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 Yes, the seventies boot would be easier to disguise although the run out grooves would give it away
Theothertosspot Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Soulboy60 said: So looked around and found a couple of copies on 'Popsike' that had been sold some time time ago, when I looked at the labels closely I could see that they all had the exact identical amount of 'wear' to them, and one seller saying that the flip was not 'Gaucho Serenade'. It would appear someone has done a few, possibly after the Goldmine issue, and infiltrated the market with them. Edited March 20, 2022 by Theothertosspot Added text
Soulboy60 Posted March 23, 2022 Author Posted March 23, 2022 Just got an Email from JM who tells me that he sold this very copy to the Ebay seller,.. HA! The seller was trying to tell me he'd had it for years,..... Plonker!
Blackpoolsoul Posted March 23, 2022 Posted March 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Soulboy60 said: Just got an Email from JM who tells me that he sold this very copy to the Ebay seller,.. HA! The seller was trying to tell me he'd had it for years,..... Plonker! I have never known John ever break confidentiality about anyone before, so you are very lucky you managed to get him to do that. Can you show us the email please ?
Kevinkent Posted March 23, 2022 Posted March 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Blackpoolsoul said: I have never known John ever break confidentiality about anyone before, so you are very lucky you managed to get him to do that. Can you show us the email please ? Surely not. I'd be a bit miffed if someone posted my emails up on a public site. If JM wants to post the info on here I'm sure he's more than capable. - Kev 3
Soulboy60 Posted March 23, 2022 Author Posted March 23, 2022 Yes Kev I agree with you 100%, so sorry 'Blackpoolsoul', that's something I can't do. I wouldn't post any private mail here regardless from where and whom it came from. Shouldn't have mentioned it in the first place I think, feel free to slap my wrist. 1
Blackpoolsoul Posted March 23, 2022 Posted March 23, 2022 16 minutes ago, Soulboy60 said: Yes Kev I agree with you 100%, so sorry 'Blackpoolsoul', that's something I can't do. I wouldn't post any private mail here regardless from where and whom it came from. Shouldn't have mentioned it in the first place I think, feel free to slap my wrist. I sort of meant without the private bits crossed out as I am genuinely struggling to see John ever sending mail like that to anyone, he keeps his business very private and would love and be amazed to be proved wrong 24 minutes ago, Kevinkent said: Surely not. I'd be a bit miffed if someone posted my emails up on a public site. If JM wants to post the info on here I'm sure he's more than capable. - Kev
Chalky Posted March 23, 2022 Posted March 23, 2022 15 minutes ago, Blackpoolsoul said: I sort of meant without the private bits crossed out as I am genuinely struggling to see John ever sending mail like that to anyone, he keeps his business very private and would love and be amazed to be proved wrong John has told me things in confidence and they will stay that way. Not sure why people always seem to doubt what others say? 1
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