Why Do You Bother?

[Citizen P]

Just read Dundeedave,s latest in On the Scene, where he comments on ther being 2 scenes,

one for music lovers ,one social.

So just a question, if people go for purely social reasons, have a laugh, meet your mates,get a few beers down and don't really care about the music too much.

Why does it ruin your night when a coupla records get played that you don't know,hmmmm??

Tony

[Guest dundeedavie]

Just read Dundeedave,s latest in On the Scene, where he comments on ther being 2 scenes,

one for music lovers ,one social.

So just a question, if people go for purely social reasons, have a laugh, meet your mates,get a few beers down and don't really care about the music too much.

Why does it ruin your night when a coupla records get played that you don't know,hmmmm??

Tony

is that a question for me ? ...if you disagree then let's have it

[Simsy]

is that a question for me ? ...if you disagree then let's have it

2 scenes? Surely they'd just go down the pub though wouldn't they? Who'd bother trekking to a nortern do just to be social?

Edited February 12, 2007 by Simsy

[Guest NASHEE]

Just read Dundeedave,s latest in On the Scene, where he comments on ther being 2 scenes,

one for music lovers ,one social.

So just a question, if people go for purely social reasons, have a laugh, meet your mates,get a few beers down and don't really care about the music too much.

Why does it ruin your night when a coupla records get played that you don't know,hmmmm??

Tony

It makes my night if I go out and hear a couple of records that I dont know....especially if thy're gooduns

[Citizen P]

is that a question for me ? ...if you disagree then let's have it

No!

In fact I cannot disagree with you on this at all, and in truth I am not really expecting any replies from anyone who loves the music.

What I wondered was if folks only go for the craic, and are not really bothered what they hear, why they are so upset when they dont hear.. FW, The snake , Moody woman etc etc. beleive me mate I've had some.

Tony

[Guest dundeedavie]

No!

In fact I cannot disagree with you on this at all, and in truth I am not really expecting any replies from anyone who loves the music.

What I wondered was if folks only go for the craic, and are not really bothered what they hear, why they are so upset when they dont hear.. FW, The snake , Moody woman etc etc. beleive me mate I've had some.

Tony

sorry i thought you were disagreeing ....

[Citizen P]

sorry i thought you were disagreeing ....

Tony

[Guest Bearsy]

I think a lot of people do use it as a social scene but i dont know anyone who dont go for the music too. some listen some dance some do both i think.

Are you meaning maybe that why is it that people who dont dance too anything moan about whats played.

I havent read Daves comments in on the scene yet, thats why i think im a bit confused .

can you enlighten me please Dave what you wrote in your quote as i feel ashamed and embarassed to be so uninformed.

Intresting thread though in the making

[Guest dundeedavie]

I think a lot of people do use it as a social scene but i dont know anyone who dont go for the music too. some listen some dance some do both i think.

Are you meaning maybe that why is it that people who dont dance too anything moan about whats played.

I havent read Daves comments in on the scene yet, thats why i think im a bit confused .

can you enlighten me please Dave what you wrote in your quote as i feel ashamed and embarassed to be so uninformed.

Intresting thread though in the making

certainly bearsy .... here is the relevant bit

Also on my mind at the mo is the "two halves" of the soul scene , those interested in the music and those purely on the scene for the social aspect with seemingly no interest in the tunes whatsoever .

Unfortunately for the musical side it is the other side that seems predominant at the mo happy to go out and hear the same tunes they hear every week/month/time they go out ...what is the answer? Well 2 scenes really , small underground do's where the music is brilliant and the bigger do's where the music is crap and predictable but the handbaggers have a great night and never the twain shall meet.

It has been interesting reading a topic on a forum that most of us are on regarding the scooter scene and scooterists in general and it seems to me that the scooter scene has something we don't ... an outlet , in that they go to scooter do's for the social aspect of having a drink and generally have a ball , BUT , then they go to soul do's for the music ...where will the soul scenes outlet come from ? do we even have the capability to create one? is that what the 70's had ? local soul nights to have a good social night and then the allnighters to bask in the glory of the quality tunes ? have, in that case soul nights and allnighters moved closer to each other creating this "problem", I think maybe it has but I'm afraid that ship has sailed and I see no way out now ..give me the music above all else and I'm a happy man

[Guest kid mohair]

No!

In fact I cannot disagree with you on this at all, and in truth I am not really expecting any replies from anyone who loves the music.

What I wondered was if folks only go for the craic, and are not really bothered what they hear, why they are so upset when they dont hear.. FW, The snake , Moody woman etc etc. beleive me mate I've had some.

Tony

probably they go for the social and at the same time would like to hear real out and out oldies as stated being played as background .......... i think..? maybe

thats it got it... they dont want to hear anything new because they dont want to ,remember they are not really into it.... what about that one..?

[Bazza]

I think Davie generally talks a load of twaddle

Bazza

[John May]

Music 1st, social side 2nd for me........Got to have that fix of at least a couple of sounds that are new to me, don't care if they're a fiver or out of my price range. If you want the social side then go down the pub !, IMO of course.

[Dave Thorley]

Couldn't agree more. Nothing worse than someone talking complete b***cks when your trying to listen to a great tune, or stopping you en-route to the dancefloor

Edited February 12, 2007 by Dave Thorley

[Geoff]

I think it is impossible to generalise why people go out to soul nights. The oldies crowd have been discussed many times, each to their own, but always think you're missing some great music if all you want to hear is what was played at whatever club you spent your youth in. But that is only my opinion.

I have made many great friends on the scene since I started going to clubs again, I've found people generally very friendly, after all we share an interest that sets us slightly apart from the mass.

My ideal is a nice club, good wooden dance floor with plenty of space, DJs playing a mix of music in the styles advertised, perhaps a few of my favourite oldies (we've all got them), some new discoveries, and a crowd of my friends. We can chat, drink (whatever our tipple) and dance when something we fancy comes on. All in an atmosphere of no aggro, and general good fellowship.

I must be lucky because I generally enjoy my evenings out.

[Bazza]

Music 1st, social side 2nd for me........Got to have that fix of at least a couple of sounds that are new to me, don't care if they're a fiver or out of my price range. If you want the social side then go down the pub !, IMO of course.

I go out to enjoy myself simple as that ,love the tunes and love to have a natter and a dance and a

laugh,thought that was what it was all about,this two scenes stuff is all crap

Bazza

[Guest kid mohair]

Couldn't agree more. Nothing worse than someone talking complete b***cks when your trying to listen to a great tune.

Then go and dance and leave them standing.........

[Dave Thorley]

Then go and dance and leave them standing.........

Trouble is you feel it's your duty to stand there and listen. My way of helping with care in the community.

[Guest kid mohair]

Trouble is you feel it's your duty to stand there and listen. My way of helping with care in the community.

good man i will remember to come over and talk bo££ocks to you then...

[Dave Thorley]

good man i will remember to come over and talk bo££ocks to you then...

Also forgot to mention, I feel it's duty as I have stood there many times and talked B*****ks to others

[Bazza]

Also forgot to mention, I feel it's duty as I have stood there many times and talked B*****ks to others

I do it all the time

Bazza

[Guest dundeedavie]

I think Davie generally talks a load of twaddle

Bazza

i've seen some of your posts , i wouldn't be so keen to criticise

anyhoo it's all about opinions ,thats mine and some people like reading it

[Guest mel brat]

As for people moaning when they hear a "tune they don't know", then they may as well stay home! The whole point of going for me is the hope of hearing records I've never heard before!

[Bazza]

i've seen some of your posts , i wouldn't be so keen to criticise

anyhoo it's all about opinions ,thats mine and some people like reading it

Davie ,as I said im my last post ,I'm very good at talking Bollox,do it all the time .there's alot on here that do,each to his own opinions tho'

Bazza

Edited February 12, 2007 by bazza

[Rednose]

As for people moaning when they hear a "tune they don't know", then they may as well stay home! The whole point of going for me is the hope of hearing records I've never heard before!

but not all nite surely

[Guest Bearsy]

certainly bearsy .... here is the relevant bit

Also on my mind at the mo is the "two halves" of the soul scene , those interested in the music and those purely on the scene for the social aspect with seemingly no interest in the tunes whatsoever .

Unfortunately for the musical side it is the other side that seems predominant at the mo happy to go out and hear the same tunes they hear every week/month/time they go out ...what is the answer? Well 2 scenes really , small underground do's where the music is brilliant and the bigger do's where the music is crap and predictable but the handbaggers have a great night and never the twain shall meet.

It has been interesting reading a topic on a forum that most of us are on regarding the scooter scene and scooterists in general and it seems to me that the scooter scene has something we don't ... an outlet , in that they go to scooter do's for the social aspect of having a drink and generally have a ball , BUT , then they go to soul do's for the music ...where will the soul scenes outlet come from ? do we even have the capability to create one? is that what the 70's had ? local soul nights to have a good social night and then the allnighters to bask in the glory of the quality tunes ? have, in that case soul nights and allnighters moved closer to each other creating this "problem", I think maybe it has but I'm afraid that ship has sailed and I see no way out now ..give me the music above all else and I'm a happy man

Thanks Davie,

Im a scooterist and the part you wrote above that i highlighted is spot on for me, as i go on a scooter rally with good friends and have a right blast but at a soul event its a different story as we know and hope that depending on the venue we go to that we are going to be treated to some great tunes of which some we know some we have heard before and some we aint heard. Its all a socialising scene really based on the foundation of quality music as everyone has stated at some point on here "we have made loads of friends and met some great people on this scene" and too of done that you must of socialised at some point. I and my friends who i attend nights/nighters with go for the music first and formost and often dont see each other all night as we all dance to different tracks or get stuck talking bolox to different people at different times. I dont know of anyone who goes to a night/nighter that goes only for the music and never to make a friend or two along the way by keeping themselves to themselves, silly me how would i know them as they keep themselves to themselves dont they. would we all probably change our minds on an event if we knew everone was going to a different one to which you first thought of going too. i know im probably wrong but whats new there as its only an insight from my good self.

I for example would think twice about going to a modern night even if all my friends was going but then again i would probably go because all my friends are going so then i would be going for the socialising wouldnt i. It may not be my cup of tea but to slate the music would be an ignorant thing for me to do would it not.

Does any of that make sense to anyone

Bearsy

[Wilxy]

Thanks Davie,

Im a scooterist and the part you wrote above that i highlighted is spot on for me, as i go on a scooter rally with good friends and have a right blast but at a soul event its a different story as we know and hope that depending on the venue we go to that we are going to be treated to some great tunes of which some we know some we have heard before and some we aint heard. Its all a socialising scene really based on the foundation of quality music as everyone has stated at some point on here "we have made loads of friends and met some great people on this scene" and too of done that you must of socialised at some point. I and my friends who i attend nights/nighters with go for the music first and formost and often dont see each other all night as we all dance to different tracks or get stuck talking bolox to different people at different times. I dont know of anyone who goes to a night/nighter that goes only for the music and never to make a friend or two along the way by keeping themselves to themselves, silly me how would i know them as they keep themselves to themselves dont they. would we all probably change our minds on an event if we knew everone was going to a different one to which you first thought of going too. i know im probably wrong but whats new there as its only an insight from my good self.

I for example would think twice about going to a modern night even if all my friends was going but then again i would probably go because all my friends are going so then i would be going for the socialising wouldnt i. It may not be my cup of tea but to slate the music would be an ignorant thing for me to do would it not.

Does any of that make sense to anyone

Bearsy

[Guest]

For me, the excitement of 'going out' is so that I hear the music in a different way - ambience can make a record sound completely different plus of course you're in a different mood to that when you're at home and the volume of the tunes can also make a song sound completely different (to me anyway).

Therefore I love both aspects - being at home in my soul-conservatory and being out at a big dark venue with a massive floor that keeps calling my name

[Guest WPaulVanDyk]

only idiots would go for social reasons. i go to hear good music, i do see some people know fair enough, i can text a few friends at times while there but i can hear the music some i not know and think wow that's a good one. Plus if any of my fav tunes come on i can dance and go home in the end happy

[Dave]

2 scenes? Surely they'd just go down the pub though wouldn't they? Who'd bother trekking to a nortern do just to be social?

Why go to a pub when you can go somewhere just as close where the beer is probably cheaper, you can hear music that reminds you of your youth and you're not out of place wearing 70s fashions?

Edited February 13, 2007 by Dave

[Guest Andy BB]

i've seen some of your posts , i wouldn't be so keen to criticise

anyhoo it's all about opinions ,thats mine and some people like reading it

Say what you like about Davie's opinions he definitely stands by them. He's the only man in the history of the word that actually reveres his own sayings so much he uses them as quotations in his signature.

Which never fails to make me chuckle.

Andy

"Tis surely a sign of severe mental disorder to quote oneself in ones own signature line" Andy BB 2007

[Supercorsa]

Two scenes? I have enough trouble attending do's on just the one scene!

I don't think there are two scenes, there are just some events that you either enjoy or you don't, it's as simple as that. The thing that I find repetative is the amount of posts about two scenes and oldies and upfront. I find that it's these posts that lead to divides within this scene. Funny how these different scenes come together at places like the Prestatyn weekender, everyone who attends enjoys themselves whether listening to the upfront stuff or the played out oldies, or perhaps the weekender crowds are a third scene?

I cannot get out as often as I'd like, when I do I don't travel too far, that is my choice. I attend both Bisley & Solid Hit Soul whenever I possibly can, now these two events are like chalk & cheese, but that is not to say that I can't enjoy myself at either event. Can we just stop creating divides that don't exist, well not in my opinion anyway.

[Eddie Hubbard]

As for people moaning when they hear a "tune they don't know", then they may as well stay home! The whole point of going for me is the hope of hearing records I've never heard before!

Good point Mel , the whole point of the scene used to be based on the fact that you had to travel to certain venues , in order to hear records that you couldn't possibly hear elsewhere , Blackpool Mecca for example . Best ,Eddie

[soulsalmon]

Also forgot to mention, I feel it's duty as I have stood there many times and talked B*****ks to others

No Shit

[Guest dundeedavie]

Say what you like about Davie's opinions he definitely stands by them. He's the only man in the history of the word that actually reveres his own sayings so much he uses them as quotations in his signature.

Which never fails to make me chuckle.

Andy

"Tis surely a sign of severe mental disorder to quote oneself in ones own signature line" Andy BB 2007

to be honest i'm not sure i was the first to say that lolol .... and hey kids are proud when they go in the potty , i'm proud when i think of anything thats not totally shallow