Haighy Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 What difference does it make. How do you spot a fake Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Trev Thomas Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 originals are styrene, Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Haighy Posted February 5, 2022 Author Share Posted February 5, 2022 Trev discogs lists them a vinyl. Are the boots stamped on the runout? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, Haighy said: Trev discogs lists them a vinyl. Are the boots stamped on the runout? discogs isn't always right, it relies on user input and whoever entered this release got that bit wrong, they are styrene.... Has it been booted, counterfeited, not aware of one 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dobber Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 I think it would be almost impossible to replicate that 45,styrene with ink jet label! 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Haighy Posted February 5, 2022 Author Share Posted February 5, 2022 My copy has what looks like a B, and a word stamped in runout also 6253 ( I think) scratched in. Sorry my eyes are old. I’m just worried as it’s that clean. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Theothertosspot Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 17 minutes ago, Haighy said: My copy has what looks like a B, and a word stamped in runout also 6253 ( I think) scratched in. Sorry my eyes are old. I’m just worried as it’s that clean. It has what you say in run-out plus a Bell Sound stamp (clockwise to etched number) Well mine has and I’ve had it 30+ years Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Haighy Posted February 5, 2022 Author Share Posted February 5, 2022 Cheers mate looks like I’ve got an original Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Blackpoolsoul Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Chalky said: discogs isn't always right, it relies on user input and whoever entered this release got that bit wrong, they are styrene.... Has it been booted, counterfeited, not aware of one This was originally listed 12 years ago and Discogs did not have a styrene option Karl, so its no ones fault, glad you added it Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garethx Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 The B in the runout is for the Bestway plant. As far as I know they were the only factory to produce styrene 45s with the paperless, screen-printed labels. I'm not aware that this record has ever been booted. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Billywhizz Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 got dj copy on right , Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Haighy Posted February 19, 2022 Author Share Posted February 19, 2022 Thanks very much for reply’s everyone. It was the label that was throwing me. I was expecting it to lift in the centre, but it’s firmly stuck down. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Geeselad Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 12 hours ago, Haighy said: Thanks very much for reply’s everyone. It was the label that was throwing me. I was expecting it to lift in the centre, but it’s firmly stuck down. It hasn't got a printed Label, the ink is printed directly onto the styrene, as with some of the big top releases. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Blackpoolsoul Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Brilliant stuff and now would it be OK to ask who know who he was, now we have sorted out the record ? I can't find anything, but I am not a knowledgeable as others on here. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Angus Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 I was listening to an old richard serling show the other day and he said that kenny shepard was art robins who recorded on vando-vocally they do sound very similar thanks 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 3 hours ago, Angus said: I was listening to an old richard serling show the other day and he said that kenny shepard was art robins who recorded on vando-vocally they do sound very similar thanks they do sound similar and Art did work with Van McCoy too Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Blackpoolsoul Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Oh, could be but I will let others agree with you Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Geeselad Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Not on that that must be an octave in pitch difference, though the vocal delivery style is similar. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Blackpoolsoul Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 13 hours ago, Angus said: I was listening to an old richard serling show the other day and he said that kenny shepard was art robins who recorded on vando-vocally they do sound very similar thanks 5 hours ago, Geeselad said: Not on that that must be an octave in pitch difference, though the vocal delivery style is similar. It appears that Richard (if that's what he said on his show) "may" have been incorrect on this occasion. Here is some stuff I found and sadly he passed away only a couple of years ago. "Maybe you know him as Arthur Robinson of the Doo Wop groups, The Romancers and The Ad-Libs. Or maybe you know him from the Van McCoy label, VANDO, as Art Robins. If you know him by any of those names, you know he has a powerful, honey voice. Or maybe you are a family member or friend and simply know him affectionately by his nickname, Peter Rabbit. Thearthur Robinson Thearthur Robinson, Arthur Robinson, Art Robins Born in South Norfolk County (which later became Chesapeake), and raised on Liberty Street there, 17 year old, Robinson left the Tidewater area in 1956 to seek better opportunities up North. He landed a job at a Staten Island hospital doing maintenance. One day while sweeping, singing to pass the time faster, he was heard by a young woman whose brother was in a Doo Wop group. Soon, a meeting was set up and next thing he knew, Thearthur Robinson from Virginia, was in a New York singing group called, The Romancers. The Romancers featured tight harmonies and soaring vocals, with several members taking turn singing lead. The group had a series of songs recorded on Palette Records. (These Romancers were an East Coast group not to be confused with a West Coast group of the same name during the same period or another East Coast group which later became known as The Dreamers). Eventually, Robinson found himself with The Ad-Libs, a singing group which had been surviving off a hit record, “The Boy From New York City.” The new Ad-Libs were on AGP Records and consisted of Arthur Robinson, Irene Baker, Hugh Harris, Rose Myers and David Watt. Also joining the lineup was Chris Bartley. The group got involved with a highly talented and prolific writer/producer by the name of Van McCoy. Arthur Robinson was chosen to sing the lead on the remake of a ballad by a former member of The Flamingos, Tommy Hunt, titled, “Human.” " http://www.vmsoul.com/dyk.html https://www.fitchettmannfuneralservices.com/obituary/thearthur-robinson 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Theothertosspot Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Same pic with annotation below 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Haighy Posted February 21, 2022 Author Share Posted February 21, 2022 14 hours ago, Blackpoolsoul said: It appears that Richard (if that's what he said on his show) "may" have been incorrect on this occasion. Here is some stuff I found and sadly he passed away only a couple of years ago. "Maybe you know him as Arthur Robinson of the Doo Wop groups, The Romancers and The Ad-Libs. Or maybe you know him from the Van McCoy label, VANDO, as Art Robins. If you know him by any of those names, you know he has a powerful, honey voice. Or maybe you are a family member or friend and simply know him affectionately by his nickname, Peter Rabbit. Thearthur Robinson Thearthur Robinson, Arthur Robinson, Art Robins Born in South Norfolk County (which later became Chesapeake), and raised on Liberty Street there, 17 year old, Robinson left the Tidewater area in 1956 to seek better opportunities up North. He landed a job at a Staten Island hospital doing maintenance. One day while sweeping, singing to pass the time faster, he was heard by a young woman whose brother was in a Doo Wop group. Soon, a meeting was set up and next thing he knew, Thearthur Robinson from Virginia, was in a New York singing group called, The Romancers. The Romancers featured tight harmonies and soaring vocals, with several members taking turn singing lead. The group had a series of songs recorded on Palette Records. (These Romancers were an East Coast group not to be confused with a West Coast group of the same name during the same period or another East Coast group which later became known as The Dreamers). Eventually, Robinson found himself with The Ad-Libs, a singing group which had been surviving off a hit record, “The Boy From New York City.” The new Ad-Libs were on AGP Records and consisted of Arthur Robinson, Irene Baker, Hugh Harris, Rose Myers and David Watt. Also joining the lineup was Chris Bartley. The group got involved with a highly talented and prolific writer/producer by the name of Van McCoy. Arthur Robinson was chosen to sing the lead on the remake of a ballad by a former member of The Flamingos, Tommy Hunt, titled, “Human.” " http://www.vmsoul.com/dyk.html https://www.fitchettmannfuneralservices.com/obituary/thearthur-robinson Brilliant investigation, if he was in the ad libs, he’s one boy. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Eddie Hubbard Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 I also understand that Kenny Sheperd is also Kenny Young - of “ Ain’t It Funny What Love Can Do “ Fame on Share Records .... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Haighy Posted March 4, 2022 Author Share Posted March 4, 2022 Cheers for info mate Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Blackpoolsoul Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 On 26/02/2022 at 22:01, Eddie Hubbard said: I also understand that Kenny Sheperd is also Kenny Young - of “ Ain’t It Funny What Love Can Do “ Fame on Share Records .... This is on Discogs with a comment saying "He then began singing with Frankie Beverly in 1969 he now lives in Philly and is still singing in 2016" 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Eddie Hubbard Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 Nice one Blackpoolsoul ,great photo Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Blackpoolsoul Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Eddie Hubbard said: Nice one Blackpoolsoul ,great photo Thanks but I can't take credit for it as someone else posted it on Discogs Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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