Rarest Stock Copy

[Geeselad]

1 hour ago, John-o said:

Well done youth! Looks gorgeous 

[Zanetti]

2 hours ago, John-o said:

Bloody hell I did it ! I hope this is the record folk meant now , there are marks on the photo but none whatsoever on the vinyl. Every day,s a school day eh ? 

Yeah . You did a good Job with Photoshop.

Happy eastern john

[Zanetti]

Just discovered on JM's IG profile:
I do not know now if this record has already been mentioned, but in my opinion a very rare DJ Copy, concluding the stock copy again some departments rarer than the promo.
Gladly feedback.

 

[Imperial C]

Some interesting chat here 

 

[Stanley]

19 minutes ago, Imperial C said:

Some interesting chat here 

 

i,ve had  a couple of the rare red issues of frankie karl , definately rarer than the demo copy....except the very rare w/demo demo ...yes a minter here...i also think the two rarest stock copies that exist are dennis edwards international soulsville cream issue of johnny on the spot.yes i,ve had a minter ,and dean courtneys black issue of love ,you just can,t walk away on mgm.

[Mal C]

19 minutes ago, Stanley said:

 ,and dean courtneys black issue of love ,you just can,t walk away on mgm.

How many copies do you know on that one Stanley, Pete Smith had it twice, he sold it to Mick Smith, and back again, after that I lost track of that copy, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen / heard of another, obviously there must be others, some plant somewhere pressed it, and given it's MGM I'd expect the run would have been a min 500?

 

[Stanley]

10 minutes ago, Mal C said:

How many copies do you know on that one Stanley, Pete Smith had it twice, he sold it to Mick Smith, and back again, after that I lost track of that copy, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen / heard of another, obviously there must be others, some plant somewhere pressed it, and given it's MGM I'd expect the run would have been a min 500?

 

i believe that same copy now resides in australia with barry.

[Zanetti]

45 minutes ago, Stanley said:

i,ve had  a couple of the rare red issues of frankie karl , definately rarer than the demo copy....except the very rare w/demo demo ...yes a minter here..

Ok - do I understand this correctly: there are 2 stock copies and 2(!) demos.

There are 4 copies:

1 - Stock Yellow/Green
2 - Stock Red
3 - W/D
4 - W/D Demo

Which stock copy is rarer? The red one?
Can you upload a scan of your super rare demo here?
tia

[Zanetti]

6 minutes ago, Zanetti said:

Ok - do I understand this correctly: there are 2 stock copies and 2(!) demos.

I Only Localize This W/D

[Julianb]

1 hour ago, Stanley said:

i,ve had  a couple of the rare red issues of frankie karl , definately rarer than the demo copy....except the very rare w/demo demo ...yes a minter here...i also think the two rarest stock copies that exist are dennis edwards international soulsville cream issue of johnny on the spot.yes i,ve had a minter ,and dean courtneys black issue of love ,you just can,t walk away on mgm.

I posted a picture of my Dennis Edwards issue earlier in this thread

[Davey S]

General Assembly - Sensitive Mind issue.

[Russoul1]

Joyce taylor - what can I do - wall-y records red issue.....had and seen only w/demos

[Zanetti]

26 minutes ago, Davey S said:

General Assembly - Sensitive Mind issue.

But I Think It Is In Here Already.

[Davey S]

21 minutes ago, Zanetti said:

But I Think It Is In Here Already.

Twice as rare then.

[Zanetti]

On 29/09/2023 at 13:00, Zanetti said:

Ok - do I understand this correctly: there are 2 stock copies and 2(!) demos.

There are 4 copies:

1 - Stock Yellow/Green
2 - Stock Red
3 - W/D
4 - W/D Demo

Which stock copy is rarer? The red one?
Can you upload a scan of your super rare demo here?
tia

@Stanley Do You Have A Scan From The Other Demo You Were Ref? Tia

[Julianb]

6 hours ago, Zanetti said:

@Stanley Do You Have A Scan From The Other Demo You Were Ref? Tia

I have a picture of the yellow/green copy with promotional copy not for sale on the bottom r/h corner somewhere. Think it's on my phone. If you want to see it, let me know and I'll try and find it!

[Frankie Crocker]

On 08/07/2022 at 13:23, Rare Toones said:

Does anyone have a scan of The Jades on Nite Life stocker?

Does not exist... Manship books hint at a rumour. Maybe someone coloured their copy in with a green felt pen perhaps?

[Geoff B]

On 29/09/2023 at 14:54, Russoul1 said:

Joyce taylor - what can I do - wall-y records red issue.....had and seen only w/demos

Mine is white with green writing but does not say demo anywhere!

[Russoul1]

4 hours ago, Geoff B said:

Mine is white with green writing but does not say demo anywhere!

Yes that is correct, possibly not a demo maybe a issue but couldn't believe I came across a red copy....never seen another

[Geoff B]

31 minutes ago, Russoul1 said:

Yes that is correct, possibly not a demo maybe a issue but couldn't believe I came across a red copy....never seen another

Is it the same strong red with black writing as The Superlatives WAL-LY 6330 ?

Edited October 7, 2023 by Geoff B

[Gaz T]

Lydia marcelle on Nola 

believe this is stupid rare on Nola issue

Anyone own this ?

I love the tune, have it on uk sue which is getting difficult to find nowadays 

so overlooked 

[Zanetti]

13 minutes ago, Gaz T said:

Lydia marcelle on Nola 

believe this is stupid rare on Nola issue

Anyone own this ?

I love the tune, have it on uk sue which is getting difficult to find nowadays 

so overlooked 

Super. Thanks for sharing and uploading. I was not aware of it. Seems to be a sweety.
Nola had mainly released stock copies. 
There are not many artists on NOLA that got in with demos.

 

[Sheep]

On 08/07/2022 at 13:23, Rare Toones said:

Does anyone have a scan of The Jades on Nite Life stocker?

Think its a myth.....

[Benji]

14 hours ago, Gaz T said:

Lydia marcelle on Nola 

believe this is stupid rare on Nola issue

Anyone own this ?

 

13 users on Discogs say they own this. Not sure what to make of that.

[Zanetti]

9 hours ago, Benji said:

13 users on Discogs say they own this. Not sure what to make of that.

Nope. 13 people are looking for this record!

 

[Gaz T]

42 minutes ago, Zanetti said:

Nope. 13 people are looking for this record!

 

Popsike only has 2 Nola issues in its entire Lydia marcelle history 

I imagine its just never been played much on the soul scene and isn’t  generally well known unless your collecting  

If it wasn’t for the uk sue release I  wouldn’t have been aware of the tune , I can’t recall ever hearing it  played when I was out and about.

Shame cause it’s a great record 

 

 

 

[neckender]

On 12/10/2023 at 09:28, Gaz T said:

Lydia marcelle on Nola 

believe this is stupid rare on Nola issue

Anyone own this ?

I love the tune, have it on uk sue which is getting difficult to find nowadays 

so overlooked 

yes, I have it.

 

[Jim Elliott]

Lovely looking lass. 

UK copy here, written by Robert Parker apparently. 

[neckender]

On 19/01/2022 at 18:10, Blackpoolsoul said:

And here is the acetate on Youtube 

looks like a home-made job.

[neckender]

On 04/02/2022 at 20:53, Chalky said:

It's a test pressing so not strictly an issue

This subject, the rarest stock copy, should have been an engaging read, but the thread is all over the place. Its a massive thread, but containing many ill thought out contributions, due to confusing inputs about dj copies, non-US  releases, test pressings, etc.  Not to mention a whole raft of people putting forward not so rare issues. Also, plenty of hearsay contributions about rare stock copies, but scant evidence to back it up.  All in all, not more than twenty genuinely rare stock copies mentioned, which is a very small number for such a big appraisal.

[Zanetti]

1 hour ago, neckender said:

This subject, the rarest stock copy, should have been an engaging read, but the thread is all over the place. Its a massive thread, but containing many ill thought out contributions, due to confusing inputs about dj copies, non-US  releases, test pressings, etc.  Not to mention a whole raft of people putting forward not so rare issues. Also, plenty of hearsay contributions about rare stock copies, but scant evidence to back it up.  All in all, not more than twenty genuinely rare stock copies mentioned, which is a very small number for such a big appraisal.

Should the thread be locked because of this?

I partly agree with you, but how do you want to coordinate or evaluate the "many poorly thought-out" posts. After all, it's a public thread where interested parties, newbies and long-established members of the scene can discuss ...
This is not supposed to be an elite blog, many trends/opinions are welcome here plus assessments that go beyond whether RARE or not RARE.

Zanetti

[Ady Potts]

5 hours ago, Zanetti said:

.........."many poorly thought-out" posts. After all, it's a public thread where interested parties, newbies and long-established members of the scene can discuss ...
This is not supposed to be an elite blog, many trends/opinions are welcome here plus assessments that go beyond whether RARE or not RARE.

Zanetti

The name of the thread is "Rarest Stock Copy".

You said..."assessments that go beyond whether RARE or not RARE". ?? Now you have totally lost me. Is it Rarest Stock Copy? or not Rarest Stock Copy??

We didn't even get past page one of 'Rarest Stock Copy' before you posted the following :

"Posted December 20, 2021.......What would interest me: Is there a demo of the gentleman down here ...??" Followed by a picture of Nabay. So even on page one you wanted to talk about 'DEMOS'.

[Zanetti]

1 hour ago, Ady Potts said:

The name of the thread is "Rarest Stock Copy".

You said..."assessments that go beyond whether RARE or not RARE". ?? Now you have totally lost me. Is it Rarest Stock Copy? or not Rarest Stock Copy??

We didn't even get past page one of 'Rarest Stock Copy' before you posted the following :

"Posted December 20, 2021.......What would interest me: Is there a demo of the gentleman down here ...??" Followed by a picture of Nabay. So even on page one you wanted to talk about 'DEMOS'.

Yes exactly, the first one is correct. No problem. I hope you're not still confused.

In the course of the thread topic, it may also be interesting to know whether a demo exists at all, which is not to deny the rarity of the stock copy, which should primarily be talked about.

Zanetti

[Tlscapital]

3 hours ago, Zanetti said:

Yes exactly, the first one is correct. No problem. I hope you're not still confused.

In the course of the thread topic, it may also be interesting to know whether a demo exists at all, which is not to deny the rarity of the stock copy, which should primarily be talked about.

Zanetti

Nabay 'believe it or not' ; if not 'rare' what would be its "status" ? The 'Impact' ( this 'emblematic' label) 'marmite' record ? Fact is that it's a vanity record. Yet 'humble' enough with no aim to reach commercial status.

Hence likely why no promotional copy were pressed out for distribution. Maybe better to avoid a disgrace as even good records do falls out through the dee-jays nets. Did they knew somehow that it's not that good ?

Mind you am not saying that it's not a 'northern soul' classic or even a TOP500 'logically' (rightfully to others but not me) as the 'rare', Detroit and 'dance' factor is there. Just saying what it is before and beyond that. 

[Zanetti]

I'll go ahead anyway, because I'm also up for it

No "dj copy", "non-US release", no copy from Lebanon, or Ireland ... or whatever - no "test pressing" either, but probably a very rare, "rock(ing)-solid" record that hopefully scratches the chat a little ... 

 

[Dobber]

3 minutes ago, Zanetti said:

I'll go ahead anyway, because I'm also up for it

No "dj copy", "non-US release", no copy from Lebanon, or Ireland ... or whatever - no "test pressing" either, but probably a very rare, "rock(ing)-solid" record that hopefully scratches the chat a little ... 

 

Very rare issue indeed,but the fact it has a palmer release takes the shine off a little

[Dobber]

1 minute ago, Dobber said:

Very rare issue indeed,but the fact it has a palmer release takes the shine off a little

And I suppose if we are talking rarest issues(stocks) without demos and other permutations then I suppose the top end shrine stuff is in here..the counts..prophets?

[Simon T]

11 minutes ago, Zanetti said:

I'll go ahead anyway, because I'm also up for it

No "dj copy", "non-US release", no copy from Lebanon, or Ireland ... or whatever - no "test pressing" either, but probably a very rare, "rock(ing)-solid" record that hopefully scratches the chat a little ... 

 

you've lost me here, what's the criteria again?

[Zanetti]

8 minutes ago, Dobber said:

Very rare issue indeed,but the fact it has a palmer release takes the shine off a little

... But there is no Palmer Stocker I Think!

[Tlscapital]

1 minute ago, Zanetti said:

... But there is no Palmer Stocker I Think!

Indeed none found yet !

[Simon T]

3 minutes ago, Zanetti said:

... But there is no Palmer Stocker I Think!

so the palmer issue is a boot?

[Zanetti]

4 minutes ago, Hippo said:

so the palmer issue is a boot?

1000 % 

[Tlscapital]

5 minutes ago, Hippo said:

so the palmer issue is a boot?

I was not aware of this thing but apparently yes.

[Zanetti]

10 minutes ago, Hippo said:

you've lost me here, what's the criteria again?

Stock - Stock - Stock - Stck - Stkc ...... 

[Simon T]

3 minutes ago, Zanetti said:

Stock - Stock - Stock - Stck - Stkc ...... 

so there can be a demo, but there's a rarer stock copy?

[Simon T]

Sorry for my inane posts on this thread. This Northern Soul thing is far too complicated for my pea sized brain.

[Theothertosspot]

Perhaps not noteworthy, but I was (ain't still) sure why the typo for the label address differentiates from the rest of the label format. It just never looked proper to me!!!!

 

 

[Bbrich]

dont think this has been posted;

 

[Eddie Hubbard]

On 12/12/2023 at 21:41, Zanetti said:

I'll go ahead anyway, because I'm also up for it

No "dj copy", "non-US release", no copy from Lebanon, or Ireland ... or whatever - no "test pressing" either, but probably a very rare, "rock(ing)-solid" record that hopefully scratches the chat a little ... 

 

Superb record ,but John Anderson had lots of copies early 80’s .They’ve all disappeared into collections now sadly 

[Zanetti]

56 minutes ago, Eddie Hubbard said:

Superb record ,but John Anderson had lots of copies early 80’s .They’ve all disappeared into collections now sadly 

Do you were able to secure at least one ... ?