Rarest Stock Copy

[Samplat]

Don’t see many Tamiko Jones.  I’m spellbound 

[Blackpoolsoul]

1 hour ago, The Yank said:

     In Bob Pruter's book "Chicago Soul", he calls Avin "a local label". So- I would go with Chicago. 

      And, there could be a connection with Avin and the Celtex label as both use Celtex Music for their releases. If that is true, Billy Lasley would be behind those labels and O-Pex and Expo. 

Blimey Webcor Records as well

[Robbk]

3 hours ago, Blackpoolsoul said:

I can't work out if it's Detroit or Chicago, as when Andre Williams released on Avin it was only a couple of months after a Fortune release in Detroit, but Dave Wilkerson is Chicago

How annoying

Avin was a Chicago label.  Andre Williams was a Chicagoan, whose base was always in Chicago, but he worked more in Detroit for some years, but mainly commuted back and forth between the two cities for many years.  He kept a home in Chicago, but stayed with friends and associates, in Detroit when recording there, and had an apartment there for awhile. He rarely had the money to finance his own record companies, so his labels were generally owned by financing partners even if he was the COO, A&R man and main producer.

[45cellar]

The Invitations Skiing In The Snow.

Only ever seen a DEMO

[Robbk]

3 minutes ago, Blackpoolsoul said:

Blimey Webcor Records as well

Absolutely!  Avin, Celtex, Expo, O-Pex, and Webcor ALL were Chicago labels, with Lasley involvement or connection, and all had links to Detroit, as well.

[Blackpoolsoul]

34 minutes ago, Robbk said:

Avin was a Chicago label.  Andre Williams was a Chicagoan, whose base was always in Chicago, but he worked more in Detroit for some years, but mainly commuted back and forth between the two cities for many years.  He kept a home in Chicago, but stayed with friends and associates, in Detroit when recording there, and had an apartment there for awhile. He rarely had the money to finance his own record companies, so his labels were generally owned by financing partners even if he was the COO, A&R man and main producer.

Someone told me that sadly Williams struggled with being addicted to drugs  and his habit forced him into homelessness while he was in Chicago. 

[Modernsoulsucks]

59 minutes ago, Samplat said:

Don’t see many Tamiko Jones.  I’m spellbound 

Had one for years off Anderson which I've mentioned on here before.

I did notice on Popsike a copy sold for $400 back in May 2021.

Up until that I thought I may have had the only copy.

https://www.popsike.com/Northern-Soul-45-Tamiko-Jones-Im-Spellbound-Golden-World-Lbl-BONUS-PHOTO/353506049664.html

Edited December 20, 2021 by Modernsoulsucks

[Rotherham Soul]

Never seen an issue of Tony Michaels - I Love The Life I Live. i guess they exist ? somewhere

[Zanetti]

On 18/12/2021 at 16:26, Zanetti said:

Benny Sigler – Who You Gonna Turn To / I Can Give You Love

Let's stay in Philly ... I have never seen this 45, but it says (JM) that this Monster exist.
The scan is of course then yellow.

 

I would like to come back to my second initial post.
I don't really believe in it - but is there a yellow stocker here?
Any chance someone knows, someone who knows, someone who knows someone?
There is only this ugly boot with miserable paper quality.

[Dobber]

I always thought these red copies were issued? But this says promo on it?

 

[Blackpoolsoul]

18 minutes ago, Zanetti said:

I would like to come back to my second initial post.
I don't really believe in it - but is there a yellow stocker here?
Any chance someone knows, someone who knows, someone who knows someone?
There is only this ugly boot with miserable paper quality.

It's in Manships guide 5th edition page 494

1. Demo

2. Issue - Vinyl

3. 2nd press Styrene

No mention of bootleg

[The Yank]

I've only seen the yellow/green swirl label that looks like Capitol for the issues.

  Does the 7th Avenue Aviators exist on a red Congress issue?

 

Edited December 20, 2021 by The Yank

[Blackpoolsoul]

6 minutes ago, The Yank said:

I've only seen the yellow/green swirl label that looks like Capitol for the issues.

  Does the 7th Avenue Aviators exist on a red Congress issue?

 

Never seen one ever

12 minutes ago, Dobber said:

I always thought these red copies were issued? But this says promo on it?

 

It's just a stamp, so technically an issue I had one without the stamp

Edited December 20, 2021 by Blackpoolsoul

[Soulman]

10 hours ago, Dobber said:

You mention a red issue on omen? 

 

17 hours ago, Robbk said:

I've seen the green one a few times in L.A. back when it was out.  But, I'll admit that the white DJ was a LOT more common, and then, the red stocker.  I'm pretty sure we carried it at Dolphins of Hollywood.

WoW!!! A Charles Brandy stocker!!!  I've NEVER seen one of those!!!

That Charles Brandy used to be mine and is certainly a rare one. I bought it off Dave Knight from York in the 80's as part of a deal with The Cashmeres, Lynne Vernado and a couple of other things for £100 all in. I sold it a few years ago for £4500. Shame about the sticker mark as the playing surface (both sides) were pretty much mint. The flip has to be one of the most heart wrenching ballads of all time. 

[Robbk]

1 hour ago, Modernsoulsucks said:

Had one for years off Anderson which I've mentioned on here before.

I did notice on Popsike a copy sold for $400 back in May 2021.

Up until that I thought I may have had the only copy.

https://www.popsike.com/Northern-Soul-45-Tamiko-Jones-Im-Spellbound-Golden-World-Lbl-BONUS-PHOTO/353506049664.html

I saw a handful of Tamiko Jones' stockers, mostly back in the mid 1960s, and a few later.

Edited December 20, 2021 by Robbk

[Robbk]

1 hour ago, rotherham soul said:

Never seen an issue of Tony Michaels - I Love The Life I Live. i guess they exist ? somewhere

I've seen a few store stockers of the Tony Michaels, as well.

[Dave Pinch]

1 hour ago, rotherham soul said:

Never seen an issue of Tony Michaels - I Love The Life I Live. i guess they exist ? somewhere

Yes it exists.. I know a guy that bought one from mick smith years ago.. he was trying to sell it on discogs.. was still there last time I looked

Edited December 20, 2021 by Dave Pinch

[Merve]

6 hours ago, Dave Pinch said:

its blue

 I think Hammy's is a blue one (?)

[Chalky]

Very rare Tommy Tate on ABC

[Blackpoolsoul]

14 hours ago, Robbk said:

Absolutely!  Avin, Celtex, Expo, O-Pex, and Webcor ALL were Chicago labels, with Lasley involvement or connection, and all had links to Detroit, as well.

In January 2020 Secret Stash purchased everything

"It is with great pride that we announce Secret Stash Records has purchased the master recordings and compositions to legendary Chicago record man, Bill Lasley’s, Celtex music group.  This includes the Celtex label and publishing entities as well as the Kack, Webcor, O-Pex, Expo, Hermes, Memo, Lasco, Lucky Dove, Amp3 , Avin, and Success imprints as well as Plywood Music publishing.  Many thanks to Mr Lasley’s widow and son for entrusting us with the responsibility of caring for this timeless collection of midwest R&B.  Secret Stash will be the perfect home for it!"

https://secretstashrecords.com/blog/page/2/

[Zanetti]

6 hours ago, Chalky said:

Very rare Tommy Tate on ABC

Is there a Demo aswell? I Don't think so 

[Robbk]

6 hours ago, Blackpoolsoul said:

In January 2020 Secret Stash purchased everything

"It is with great pride that we announce Secret Stash Records has purchased the master recordings and compositions to legendary Chicago record man, Bill Lasley’s, Celtex music group.  This includes the Celtex label and publishing entities as well as the Kack, Webcor, O-Pex, Expo, Hermes, Memo, Lasco, Lucky Dove, Amp3 , Avin, and Success imprints as well as Plywood Music publishing.  Many thanks to Mr Lasley’s widow and son for entrusting us with the responsibility of caring for this timeless collection of midwest R&B.  Secret Stash will be the perfect home for it!"

https://secretstashrecords.com/blog/page/2/

Nice to hear that the Success masters will be included.  I hope there are some nice unreleased cuts among them.

[Theothertosspot]

Probably not the rarest but nonetheless nice to have

[Chalky]

4 hours ago, Zanetti said:

Is there a Demo aswell? I Don't think so 

Not that I’m aware off, very few stockers

[Vadnochka]

My brother Chris in Jersey when he was in one of his completist moods had demos and issues of both RicTic  and Golden World catalogues at one time

[Tricky]

On 19/12/2021 at 21:24, Dobber said:

You own a green issue? That has to be the only one known? Ive had a white one and thats bloody rare,but a green one…seriously rare!

I had a green Capitals autographed. Yes very hard.

Now an issue I never thought I would ever see was Exits on black Kapp.

That caused my eyeballs to bulge I can tell you.

 

[Vadnochka]

Velours - MGM - very few black stockers 

Also very few Earl Jackson ABC stockers - Back in Aug '72 I had 2 white demos but never had a black issue till this day.

Also had a demo and an issue of the Groovettes at the same time in the 90's - no idea of the relative rarity of either - Anyone?

[Sheldonsoul]

Isn’t there also a black issue of jd Martin

[Dave Pinch]

12 minutes ago, Sheldonsoul said:

Isn’t there also a black issue of jd Martin

jd martin is regular tower brown issue on vinyl

[Rick Cooper]

Has anyone got or seen a stock issue of The Guys From Uncle- The Spy on Swan? Nothing on the usual sites.

[Robbk]

On 21/12/2021 at 11:17, Vadnochka said:

My brother Chris in Jersey when he was in one of his completist moods had demos and issues of both RicTic  and Golden World catalogues at one time

He may have gotten a lot of them from Ron Murphy, who ended up getting the remaining stock of them.

[Robbk]

I saw a fair amount of The Exits on Kapp on black store stock. We had them at Dolphins of Hollywood.  I saw them in other shops as well.  It didn't sell much or chart much.  But it wasn't all that rare when it was out.

[Tonys]

dont see many stanley mitchell issues 

[Ady Potts]

I have posted this one up before on FB, but not on here.

West Coast issue.

[Ady Potts]

On 20/12/2021 at 16:11, Dave Pinch said:

ady potts.. he still got it as far as i know

 

Yes still got it. It's weird being on blue.

[Pete Fowler]

On 20/12/2021 at 19:06, Wiganer1 said:

Holly st James issue 

August and deneen - we go together issue 

Seen one copy of both

Shit rare 

 

 

 

 

[Pete Fowler]

On 20/12/2021 at 16:26, D9 Ktf said:

A black issue ABC Paramount of The Yum Yums  "Gonna Be A Big Thing" is rare.

Also black Kapp issues of Patti and the Emblems and Rubin are nice!

Carol & Gerri on black MGM also the Charades are a lot rarer than the demos.  Then there's all the RCA issues.  Not the rarest issues, but not too easy either!

 

[Wiganer1]

1 hour ago, Pete Fowler said:

WOW

[Tricky]

17 hours ago, Pottsy said:

I have posted this one up before on FB, but not on here.

West Coast issue.

I have a copy of My Baby on west coast issue as well.

I wonder how many of this labels group releases made it out here.

Obviously the major link is Monk Higgins who relocated? here late sixties.

[Ady Potts]

1 hour ago, Tricky said:

I have a copy of My Baby on west coast issue as well.

I wonder how many of this labels group releases made it out here.

Obviously the major link is Monk Higgins who relocated? here late sixties.

For some reason there's quite a few West Coast copies of My Baby, there's a few on ebay at this moment.

Johnny Sayles West Coast on the label is rare.

[Ady Potts]

2 hours ago, Pete Fowler said:

Hi Pete, That August & Deneen looks pretty. I did have (don't own now) a Patti & the Emblems, that's a rare one.

[Julianb]

21 minutes ago, Pottsy said:

For some reason there's quite a few West Coast copies of My Baby, there's a few on ebay at this moment.

Johnny Sayles West Coast on the label is rare.

I'll post up the Johnny Sayles in a few days time

[Dave Pinch]

7 hours ago, Julianb said:

I'll post up the Johnny Sayles in a few days time

ginger taylor had a copy too..i know  of one other west coast issue

[Algsoul]

3 minutes ago, Dave Pinch said:

ginger taylor had a copy too..i know  of one other west coast issue

ginger still got his copy

 

[Julianb]

8 hours ago, Dave Pinch said:

ginger taylor had a copy too..i know  of one other west coast issue

When JM sold a demo copy a few years ago he stated that this was the rarest form other than the West Coast issue that he only knew of one copy which Ginger owned. I dropped him an email to tell him that now he knew where there was another copy!

[Mal C]

I had this a few years back, sold it now, but haven't seen another before or since, not on issue anyway...

I had both Kapp 865 / 866 (Jaibi) on issue and demo which I thought was just cool, only to be out done when I saw Dave Flynn's acetates of both releases...

Edited December 26, 2021 by Mal C

[Pk 22dj]

Adams Apples, you don’t see many issues

Edited December 26, 2021 by Pk 22dj

[Pete Fowler]

19 hours ago, Wiganer1 said:

WOW

I've yet to see an image of a Holly St James issue though, can anyone help? I'm beginning to think it may be a myth.

[Soul Shrews]

2 hours ago, Mal C said:

I had this a few years back, sold it now, but haven't seen another before or since, not on issue anyway...

I had both Kapp 865 / 866 (Jaibi) on issue and demo which I thought was just cool, only to be out done when I saw Dave Flynn's acetates of both releases...

Went to a good home Mal 

Cheers Paul

Edited December 26, 2021 by Soul Shrews
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[Pete Fowler]

On 21/12/2021 at 19:42, Vadnochka said:

Velours - MGM - very few black stockers 

Also very few Earl Jackson ABC stockers - Back in Aug '72 I had 2 white demos but never had a black issue till this day.

Also had a demo and an issue of the Groovettes at the same time in the 90's - no idea of the relative rarity of either - Anyone?