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Piloterec
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Finally found a copy of this beauty.......  

Billy Jo Jim Bob
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In this case its probably because there was a large US military presence in the Philippines around that time. I have the Ron Matlock LP on Cotillion with Philippino record shop stamps on the cover.

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THAT wasn't the driver in ALL these cases.  At least in USA and Canada, sometimes it was a matter of the combination of too much talent, too many excellent productions to get onto the radio airwaves o

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On 17/11/2021 at 13:15, Dobber said:

I always find it amazing when quality songs only appear on 45 in dare i say obscure countrys! I mean WHY?  

In this case its probably because there was a large US military presence in the Philippines around that time. I have the Ron Matlock LP on Cotillion with Philippino record shop stamps on the cover.

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On 17/11/2021 at 05:47, Winsford Soul said:

What's quality to me n you mate is crap to the rest of the world otherwise all this stuff we like would have been No1 in various  places world wide 

THAT wasn't the driver in ALL these cases.  At least in USA and Canada, sometimes it was a matter of the combination of too much talent, too many excellent productions to get onto the radio airwaves or into the clubs and other in-person venues, and poor choices made by record producers and record company quality control decision makers, and record company owners regarding what the public wanted, or knowing how to get their recorded songs to the potential listeners who WOULD HAVE loved to hear them.  In USA and Canada, there were thousands of people who would have loved hundreds (certainly at least several thousands) of the Nothern Soul or Beach, or Shag songs that never made the radio, or were played on a light rotation for only a few days and didn't sell.  They just never got the chance to hear them.  These include mostly normal people, who were Soul music fans, but not major record collectors, and who would buy records only because they liked them, NOT with their rarity  as a contributing factor.  A LOT of the so-called "Northern Soul" wouldn't have been considered "crap" to such potential buyers.  Most likers of Soul Music would have liked quite a high proportion of the Motown recordings that never came out (especially those that were recorded between 1962 and 1970, and a lesser, but still quite significant percentage of the Detroit and Chicago Soul recordings from 1964-70, and a lesser, but still significant proportion of the Philadelphia, New York, l..A., Texas, Miami, Memphis, and New Orleans Soul Music which was recorded during 1960-75.  It was simply too much to get to the proper audiences.  That is probably just the same in any industry.  There are lots of different reasons why an existing product can't get to its potential market, in the best that would be best enjoyed by its potential consumers.  That is one of the flaws of capitalism and human nature.

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On 17/11/2021 at 13:15, Dobber said:

I always find it amazing when quality songs only appear on 45 in dare i say obscure countrys! I mean WHY?  

I mentioned this subject to a mate at work , who is married to a Filipino lady ,and has visited many times and he reckons due to the US military presence lots of American influences , music being one of them , and also the music on the military bases etc .

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I mentioned this subject to a mate at work , who is married to a Filipino lady ,and has visited many times and he reckons due to the US military presence lots of American influences , music being one of them , and also the music on the military bases etc .

That scenario was also true in Germany, where since WWII, the German cities, especially near US military bases, adopted American Soul music in their clubs, and that music was also spread heavily by the children of American (especilly Black American) servicemen, who married and had children with German women.  Naturally, young Germans, after that terrible war, blamed their parents' generation for "allowing" The Nazis to ruin their country, and its reputation throughout The World, and rejected their own past- and wanted to rebel against it-and follow a new and different path.  US culture, brought by The US servicemen, was very different.  And the Soul Music of The African-Americans was a lot more different from what they were used to, than US MOR Pop music.  Lots of them adopted Lily-White Rock and Roll.  But others, who wanted to rebel even more strongly against their Nazi parents' generation, could do so by adopting Black man's music, sort of spitting in Hitler's face (because he considered them inferior and subhuman.  I'm surprised there weren't also mass conversions to Judaism, and adopting of Yiddish Klezmer Music!  😁

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On 17/11/2021 at 13:09, Winsford Soul said:

It could have been the 70,s before it was released.  I remember a thread on here about it years ago so maybe some more details/ information in that thread 

So where there two Philippine releases - the 60’s one as per the above white promo and the orange 70’s one?

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On 19/11/2021 at 18:15, Happy Feet said:

I mentioned this subject to a mate at work , who is married to a Filipino lady ,and has visited many times and he reckons due to the US military presence lots of American influences , music being one of them , and also the music on the military bases etc .

Working in Delhi 1995....not a lot to do on a weekend, unless your a culture vulture, but some hotels put a band on most Saturday nights for the ex pats....and low and behold this Filipino band comes out singing "More today than yesterday".....I could have fell off the bar stool.

TSWONS...so to speak.

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On 17/11/2021 at 13:01, Dobber said:

But it looks 1970’s ?

This looks more 60’s

 

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What is the source of this one?  The type face for the cat number, title and artist is different to the rest of the layout, more glossy in colour too.

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What is the source of this one?  The type face for the cat number, title and artist is different to the rest of the layout, more glossy in colour too.

that copy lay hidden as a buy now for a week on ebay before someone spied it and snaffled it cheap

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