Covid and Events

[Soulhock]

Does anyone know if covid has been found in any events since we opened up .Asking as a work mate went to a wedding and  several positive cases.

[Leicester Boy]

16 hours ago, Soulhock said:

Does anyone know if covid has been found in any events since we opened up .Asking as a work mate went to a wedding and  several positive cases.

Ive been to several events and 2 weekenders and have been fine. Chances are slimer of catching it at soul events with an older population who on the whole would have been double jabbed I'd have thought.

[Thinksmart]

I'm also unsure how it would be traced back now.  I doubt anyone will report a specific event or even know precisely it was at the event it was transmitted.  My guess is people will stay quiet.

[Rick Scott]

Double jab fine, should stop you from becoming seriously  ill but does not stop you from picking the infection up from someone carrying the infection and passing it on to those who are vulnerable     

 

[Leicester Boy]

22 minutes ago, Rick Scott said:

Double jab fine, should stop you from becoming seriously  ill but does not stop you from picking the infection up from someone carrying the infection and passing it on to those who are vulnerable     

 

So what you saying.  Stay in forever even if double jabbed in case u pass it on to someone vulnerable? If thats the case lifes done!

[Shinehead]

15 minutes ago, Leicester Boy said:

So what you saying.  Stay in forever even if double jabbed in case u pass it on to someone vulnerable? If thats the case lifes done!

Take our liberty while we can , we have done our bit by staying in virtual isolation for months on end and most of us are double vaccinated .

Life has to go on or it is not worth living .

[Leicester Boy]

3 minutes ago, Shinehead said:

Take our liberty while we can , we have done our bit by staying in virtual isolation for months on end and most of us are double vaccinated .

Life has to go on or it is not worth living .

Absolutely this.

[Rick Scott]

i understand and agree with all your comments but we do have to be careful that was my point, but would hate to have to go back to a wholesale lock down, by all means get out there and enjoy yourselves, we are one big family on here and with our friends on the scene just would hate to be reading on here of another friend lost to this terrible infection, take care everyone and stay safe 

[Westender]

I'm with Rick on this.

I'm still exercising caution and would urge everyone to do likewise. Large sections of the population are not double vaccinated, we currently have a spike in infections and hospitalisations and even the young can get seriously ill with Covid. 

I don't advocate locking yourself away and can see that some sort of normality has to return but be aware there are still risks, even if you are double jabbed. 

[Leicester Boy]

2 minutes ago, Westender said:

I'm with Rick on this.

I'm still exercising caution and would urge everyone to do likewise. Large sections of the population are not double vaccinated, we currently have a spike in infections and hospitalisations and even the young can get seriously ill with Covid. 

I don't advocate locking yourself away and can see that some sort of normality has to return but be aware there are still risks, even if you are double jabbed. 

If people dont know there are still risks they must have been on the moon for a long time but....everything we do in life is a certain risk. People have car crashes are you never going in a car again? Planes crash are you never flying again? Your whole life from cradle to grave involves risks and its upto individuals to decide how much cotton wool you wrap yourself up in. Do what you feel safe with and live your life or dont . My final comment as there is no right answer.  Cheers 

[Thinksmart]

Now that as of today's ministerial briefings 'vaccine passports' seem likely for mass indoor entertainment events after end of September in UK, it will be interesting to see if that has any requirement upon bigger or any events in the Soul scene(s).

Edited September 5, 2021 by Thinksmart

[Tomangoes]

If the dance floor starts filling up and there's a chance of touchy touchy.....give an underplayed tune a chance.

Crowd control.

Soul education.

Doing your bit for humanity.

Win win.

Ed

[Winsford Soul]

1 hour ago, Thinksmart said:

Now that as of today's ministerial briefings 'vaccine passports' seem likely for mass indoor entertainment events after end of September in UK, it will be interesting to see if that has any requirement upon bigger ir any events in the Soul scene(s).

Mass indoor entertainment. Apparently  It's for venues of 500 and more in Scotland,  hopefully this fcukwit government will decide like the Welsh have that it's a no go as been to discriminatory 

Edited September 5, 2021 by Winsford Soul

[Leicester Boy]

My last post said i wouldn't comment again but a post on foxestalk caught my eye!! Just a reminder about being jabbed.  Russia yesterday 18000 cases and nearly 800 deaths.  Uk double the cases and 68 deaths.  Vaccinations are working and keeping people alive. 

[Timillustrator]

Not sure if you can draw any conclusions but I've been to 6 events and not heard of any infections. A work colleague in her 20's has been to a couple of gigs and got "pinged" twice within 7 days. Both times she got a negative PCR test after being pinged and she's double jabbed too anyway. I'm guessing it's the age group difference though?

She also went to two weddings and a hen do in Brighton but nothing from them.

 

Edited September 6, 2021 by Timillustrator

[Chalky]

10 hours ago, Timillustrator said:

Not sure if you can draw any conclusions but I've been to 6 events and not heard of any infections. A work colleague in her 20's has been to a couple of gigs and got "pinged" twice within 7 days. Both times she got a negative PCR test after being pinged and she's double jabbed too anyway. I'm guessing it's the age group difference though?

She also went to two weddings and a hen do in Brighton but nothing from them.

 

Plenty of talk of people catching the virus on other Social Media platforms, Cleethorpes, events in the midlands, one in Lincs where a couple went knowing they had the virus but were not suffering, Brighton weekender apparently and other venues.

[Girdwoodinc]

3 hours ago, Chalky said:

Plenty of talk of people catching the virus on other Social Media platforms, Cleethorpes, events in the midlands, one in Lincs where a couple went knowing they had the virus but were not suffering, Brighton weekender apparently and other venues.

"one in Lincs where a couple went knowing they had the virus but were not suffering" - that's pretty outrageous behaviour 

[Winsford Soul]

21 minutes ago, Girdwoodinc said:

"one in Lincs where a couple went knowing they had the virus but were not suffering" - that's pretty outrageous behaviour 

If its true . Wouldn't believe everything on social media.  

[Mike]

54 minutes ago, Rick Scott said:

Watched Boris on BBC News Channel today and was quite suprised  that of all the people sat behind him you could count the amount of people wearing face coverings on one hand but over on the opposition side face coverings very much in evidence unless stood up to speak, considering it was packed and and everyone sat close to one another for his immportant announcement it did not come over as a shineing example to viewers,

 Sorry to put this in here as it is not an event but i thought was important to share,   

The above post removed!

Current affairs is the place for such discussion

This is a topic about covid event related discussion

Ask all to keep it to that

Can use our 'current affairs forum' if you really feel a need to discuss on here such subjects as mps face coverings

https://www.soul-source.co.uk/forums/forum/137-current-affairs/

 

[Steve G]

Quite a few gone down with it after Bank Holiday events in Brighton. Not me, but I know quite a few who have succumbed. 

[Chalky]

6 hours ago, Winsford Soul said:

If its true . Wouldn't believe everything on social media.  

One who got it or was there said around 20 caught it if I remember

[Soulman58]

It has never gone away, or been anywhere near it.  So greater crowds, closer together means it is going to happen,

The fact that the delta varient spreads easier but is less severe for the majority is a bit of a double edged sword as individuals carrying more likely to mix without being aware they have it.

Time will tell whether we can live a normal(ish) life throughout the autumn/winter. 

Although I stopped going to do's eons ago I have been to test match/races and can't say I have been concerned, though I'm aware that I have put myself at slight risk.  Not sure I would feel the same inside a sweaty, busy club.

I am happy with the proposed move to show double vacced at busy events.

 

[Tomangoes]

As stated a thousand time single double or soon to be triple vacc does not stop you getting it.

The virus can live for ages apparently on lots of surfaces, so an infected cleaner could leave a trail of hot spots for incoming punters to " catch it"

Its just a lottery at the end of the day, but in terms of probability of catching it, the less contact you have with others, the less chance of catching it.

The same can be said about most viruses.

As in 1916 to 1921...inevitably we as a race will have to live with it.

I read that the vaccine rate in Africa and other poorer countries is well under 10% and Europe and the USA/Canada is approaching 80%.

I really hope the catch up can happen soon.

Ed

[Leicester Boy]

19 minutes ago, Tomangoes said:

As stated a thousand time single double or soon to be triple vacc does not stop you getting it.

The virus can live for ages apparently on lots of surfaces, so an infected cleaner could leave a trail of hot spots for incoming punters to " catch it"

Its just a lottery at the end of the day, but in terms of probability of catching it, the less contact you have with others, the less chance of catching it.

The same can be said about most viruses.

As in 1916 to 1921...inevitably we as a race will have to live with it.

I read that the vaccine rate in Africa and other poorer countries is well under 10% and Europe and the USA/Canada is approaching 80%.

I really hope the catch up can happen soon.

Ed

Actually being double vaccinated greatly reduces the risk of catching it . It greatly reduces the chances of serious illness and also greatly reduces the chances of spreading it. It doesn't 100% stop you getting it but greatly improves your chances anyone stating otherwise should do some research. 

 

[Wilxy]

Due to my wifes' vulnerability following a kidney transplant three years ago, I have avoided attending any indoor events through fear of passing on any infection to her, since the lockdown was lifted! Attended my first football match in South Wales just over a fortnight ago, and came back with Covid.....Knocked me sideways for several days, alas passed it on to my wife who has been very poorly with it! Both of us double jabbed, and now she's "doubled up"

It's out there....Be Careful.....

[Mike]

 

This is a topic about covid event related discussion

Please take the posting of stats and such to the current affairs forum

thanks

[Tomangoes]

No problem.

I just hope it won't be too long before free instant covid tests will be available when entering events and busy building etc.

Ed

[Leicester Boy]

19 minutes ago, Tomangoes said:

No problem.

I just hope it won't be too long before free instant covid tests will be available when entering events and busy building etc.

Ed

It wont be long before some sort of passport or test is needed at larger events. Have been informed random tests will be performed at the leicester v man city game on Saturday.  

[Leicester Boy]

Proof of vaccinations via the nhs passport app or a negative lateral test within the last 48 hours will be needed for entry if asked at the turnstiles. 

[Dim]

17 hours ago, Leicester Boy said:

Actually being double vaccinated greatly reduces the risk of catching it . It greatly reduces the chances of serious illness and also greatly reduces the chances of spreading it. It doesn't 100% stop you getting it but greatly improves your chances anyone stating otherwise should do some research. 

 

 

17 hours ago, Leicester Boy said:

Actually being double vaccinated greatly reduces the risk of catching it . It greatly reduces the chances of serious illness and also greatly reduces the chances of spreading it. It doesn't 100% stop you getting it but greatly improves your chances anyone stating otherwise should do some research. 

 

If that's the case how come 35% of the current hospital admissions are double vaccinated? We are told the efficacy starts to decline at after 5 months and at 6 months we will need more vaccine. That's probably why the Government  ordered what at the time appeared ludicrously high volumes of the vaccine. I still believe it's all smoke and mirrors because if they told us the real scenario they'd have a rebellious population on their hands. 

My take on it as far as events are concerned? Go while you can because I don't you'll be able to by mid November. 

[Leicester Boy]

2 hours ago, Dim said:

 

If that's the case how come 35% of the current hospital admissions are double vaccinated? We are told the efficacy starts to decline at after 5 months and at 6 months we will need more vaccine. That's probably why the Government  ordered what at the time appeared ludicrously high volumes of the vaccine. I still believe it's all smoke and mirrors because if they told us the real scenario they'd have a rebellious population on their hands. 

My take on it as far as events are concerned? Go while you can because I don't you'll be able to by mid November. 

What? Over 80% of the population are double vaccinated and yet they only make up 33% of hospital admissions and virtually none are dying. 10% of non vaccinated population make up 65% of hospital admissions. Maybe maths isn't your strong point if you think vaccinations aren't working. Never said you couldn't get covid when double jabbed only the chances of death are negligible. Have a great day.

[Mike]

again we are going down the road of talking more about the actual virus rather than talking about event related effects of the virus

understand that it may/can be hard separating the discussion as above and that there will always be some crossover

but it needs to be done, otherwise we (the team) will have no choice but to move the topic to 'current affairs' if the topic goes further  down that road

as requested please try and keep the discussion in this topic to covid event related discussion

Can use our 'current affairs forum' if wish to talk further on covid

https://www.soul-source.co.uk/forums/forum/137-current-affairs/

thanks

[Leicester Boy]

Sorry mike  was quoted so replied.  

[Mike]

10 hours ago, Source said:

again we are going down the road of talking more about the actual virus rather than talking about event related effects of the virus

understand that it may/can be hard separating the discussion as above and that there will always be some crossover

but it needs to be done, otherwise we (the team) will have no choice but to move the topic to 'current affairs' if the topic goes further  down that road

as requested please try and keep the discussion in this topic to covid event related discussion

Can use our 'current affairs forum' if wish to talk further on covid

https://www.soul-source.co.uk/forums/forum/137-current-affairs/

thanks

 

post regarding stats split of and moved to a covid topic in current affairs forum

 

 

[Dim]

Mike.... I'll add my apologies too. 

[Blackpoolsoul]

Omricon - just named as the new variant and there seems to be some level of worry / panic

Might this be the next lock down

Please don't shoot the messenger

[Winsford Soul]

32 minutes ago, Blackpoolsoul said:

Omricon - just named as the new variant and there seems to be some level of worry / panic

Might this be the next lock down

Please don't shoot the messenger

Don't think so, still on plan A according to the latest news but you never know with this fcukwit government,

Got to many venues i want to go so they cant.

[Soulman58]

7 minutes ago, Winsford Soul said:

Don't think so, still on plan A according to the latest news but you never know with this fcukwit government,

Got to many venues i want to go so they cant.

I hope for your sake you're right Steve, but as a gambler I wouldn't take short odds on it.  Our next door neighbours are from South Africa and went back for the first time in 3 years last week.  Due back next week, but won't be rushing to see them.

[Leicester Boy]

It was stated by scientists many months ago that mutations of the virus are fairly easy to change the vaccine for. Also they are developing a pill to take in the fairly near future. All of this of course doesn't stop sky news and such like trying to scare people for clickbait purposes. In the real world if you have had your jabs and booster you have a very good chance of not catching covid and not ending up in hospital. My mrs works for the nhs and the vast percentage of admissions are UN vaccinated people. But as always believe what you want to believe.  Have a great day.

[Jez Jones]

Under the plans people going to nightclubs and dance halls, alongside mass-audience events, will be required to show a Covid pass – displaying evidence of either two jabs or a recent negative test – as a condition of entry.

Now I'm thinking off Allnighters here..if you read below it would seem after 1 am the 'rules change'
How is this gonna effect Allnighters...are they resourced to check on Covid Passports ?? Are venues gonna be amenable to policing this ?
Seems to me...these rules are taking a sledgehammer to crack a nut !!

 The newly published regulations also make clear that other “late night dance venues” will also be required to use the pass. The government has defined these venues as anywhere that opens
between 1am-5am,
serves alcohol after 1am,
has a dance floor or space for dancing, and
provides music, whether live or recorded, for dancing. 

[Kev John]

2 hours ago, Jez Jones said:

Under the plans people going to nightclubs and dance halls, alongside mass-audience events, will be required to show a Covid pass – displaying evidence of either two jabs or a recent negative test – as a condition of entry.

Now I'm thinking off Allnighters here..if you read below it would seem after 1 am the 'rules change'
How is this gonna effect Allnighters...are they resourced to check on Covid Passports ?? Are venues gonna be amenable to policing this ?
Seems to me...these rules are taking a sledgehammer to crack a nut !!

 The newly published regulations also make clear that other “late night dance venues” will also be required to use the pass. The government has defined these venues as anywhere that opens
between 1am-5am,
serves alcohol after 1am,
has a dance floor or space for dancing, and
provides music, whether live or recorded, for dancing. 

Funny how the rules change after 1am...making soul nights ok and after 1am allnighters a doubt

[Jez Jones]

24 minutes ago, Kev John said:

Funny how the rules change after 1am...making soul nights ok and after 1am allnighters a doubt

Well thats it...are we now saying Covid is clever and comes out to play after 1am lol

But joking apart...how I read this...is events open between 1am - 5am are scuppered......which means NO allnighters unless someone can show me different

Granted venues are open IF you provide proof ..but how they gonna be checked ????     door  protocol isn't exemplary on this scene

[Mike]

3 hours ago, Jez Jones said:

Under the plans people going to nightclubs and dance halls, alongside mass-audience events, will be required to show a Covid pass – displaying evidence of either two jabs or a recent negative test – as a condition of entry.

Now I'm thinking off Allnighters here..if you read below it would seem after 1 am the 'rules change'
How is this gonna effect Allnighters...are they resourced to check on Covid Passports ?? Are venues gonna be amenable to policing this ?
Seems to me...these rules are taking a sledgehammer to crack a nut !!

 The newly published regulations also make clear that other “late night dance venues” will also be required to use the pass. The government has defined these venues as anywhere that opens
between 1am-5am,
serves alcohol after 1am,
has a dance floor or space for dancing, and
provides music, whether live or recorded, for dancing. 

 

it works better if posting anything that is 'official' like the above, you also post a link to where the info was taken as well

can ya do that asp ?

thanks

 

 

 

[Jez Jones]

10 minutes ago, Source said:

 

it works better if posting anything that is 'official' like the above, you also post a link to where the info was taken as well

can ya do that asp ?

thanks

 

 

 

ok here is a link ..its only a basic internet search result.. there are loads out there to choose from

https://www.business-live.co.uk/retail-consumer/venues-require-covid-passport-december-22453056

[Steviehay]

its daft,so an all dayer constitutes more hours than a nighter ,covid is a night time thing then ????

[Soulman58]

10 minutes ago, Steviehay said:

its daft,so an all dayer constitutes more hours than a nighter ,covid is a night time thing then ????

No idea if I'm correct, but my guess is they think more alcohol/drugs people less in control and more likely to spread the virus.  Which is probably wrong anyway, given how it's spreading already.

[Timillustrator]

6 hours ago, Jez Jones said:

Well thats it...are we now saying Covid is clever and comes out to play after 1am lol

But joking apart...how I read this...is events open between 1am - 5am are scuppered......which means NO allnighters unless someone can show me different

Granted venues are open IF you provide proof ..but how they gonna be checked ????     door  protocol isn't exemplary on this scene

It's not that hard though. I've been to a couple of gigs in recent months where they needed this. In both cases there was one person on the line asking to look at everyones phone for the QR code and then waving them in. Younger demographic perhaps though because 100% of attendees had a smartphone which may not be the case at every soul do.

[Chalky]

7 hours ago, Jez Jones said:

Well thats it...are we now saying Covid is clever and comes out to play after 1am lol

But joking apart...how I read this...is events open between 1am - 5am are scuppered......which means NO allnighters unless someone can show me different

Granted venues are open IF you provide proof ..but how they gonna be checked ????     door  protocol isn't exemplary on this scene

Where does it state that events after 1am are scuppered?  It doesn't, it states they need to show the covid passport/certificate for late night venues and gives a description of a late night venue

Government site 

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/carrying-out-mandatory-covid-19-status-checks-at-your-venue-or-event#overview-of-the-rules

As for checks, its pretty simply, you download the certificate to your phone, we had to do it to get into Dab weekender in Wales last month, was all pretty straight forward.  Or you can download and print your pass or get the NHS to send you a copy.  Its all pretty simply.

Edited December 15, 2021 by Chalky

[Mssoulie]

And there is one of the reasons Im not out playing. The first events to give the finger to any restrictions will be full to the rafters. 

And before I get the standard ( what about infections ) . Remember a few years ago that bird flue was the next Anthrax. Well bird flue is rife at the moment. Not on mainstream though is it. . 

[Mike]

10 minutes ago, Mssoulie said:

And there is one of the reasons Im not out playing. The first events to give the finger to any restrictions will be full to the rafters. 

And before I get the standard ( what about infections ) . Remember a few years ago that bird flue was the next Anthrax. Well bird flue is rife at the moment. Not on mainstream though is it. . 

best if try and keep the topic about covid restrictions related to events 

expanding things to cover anthrax and bird flu ain't really welcome

thanks !