Matthew Barnett if your love is real puff

[Salvosoul]

This last 3 years more and more copy for this record from Detroit for sale 

I’m sure that this records are reissued in USA 

more ex / mint copy for sale for 300 dollars and all dealers have one or more for sale ???

What you think ?? 

46 minutes ago, Salvosoul said:

This last 3 years more and more copy for this record from Detroit for sale 

I’m sure that this records are reissued in USA 

more ex / mint copy for sale for 300 dollars and all dealers have one or more for sale ???

What you think ?? 

 

Edited May 14, 2021 by Salvosoul

[Solidsoul]

Maybe someone who has had a Matthew Barnett for many years, could compare to the ones that are turning up recently.

 

Edited May 14, 2021 by D9 KTF

[Davek]

Original stamped ZTSC so should be easy to tell. Soul Bowl had hundreds of these. It's a keeper though making it more scarce.

[The Tempest]

ZTSC 107253

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[Tlscapital]

No bootleg of this but NOS (new old stock) maybe originating from Matthew Barnett himself but now I believe (been partly told in secrecy) all the copies are in an American dealer's hands together with the other PUFF odd (less my cup) last release on the label by Johnie Brown 'watch me work'.

The 'original seller' spreads them out carefully or little by little I've been told. Mmmh. OkAy but... not really IMO. And how many still... ? Grabbed a copy as it was a rather elusive record in the past and I still love both sides like the first day hearing it. A must have record for me no matter how rare.

[Tricky]

Trouble is the Johnnie Brown was quite obscure and hard to get hold of.

Plenty of sellers have it but paid a highish price for them looking at how high priced they are and how many are now stuck in dealers hands.

So hardly a secret if you’re eyes are open.

Sorry this isn’t meant as a dig by the way.

[Tlscapital]

19 hours ago, Tricky said:

Trouble is the Johnnie Brown was quite obscure and hard to get hold of.

Plenty of sellers have it but paid a highish price for them looking at how high priced they are and how many are now stuck in dealers hands.

So hardly a secret if you’re eyes are open.

Sorry this isn’t meant as a dig by the way.

The Johnie Brown is not 'northern soul' or at least doesn't qualify as yet. Would it have been it would have start to surface years ago. Just like the Matthew Barnett did before the internet days. With very few copies offered at first. Commanding then evidently the big price tag on the few UK dealers lists offering one. 

Long before the internet days things were different. Most UK dealers would set their prices accordingly to the NOS quantities thrown out on the market. Their reputation were at stake. While in the USA the dealers had to unload these soul records mostly on the European market as they had no such takers there.

At one time some of the American dealers started to get better hints as how to get the most out of their finds for the European market. Price guides playing their bad part. And so they started playing another game with their regular European customers and such odd commercial behavior became the "new way" to do.

With the internet everything changed even more. Major UK 'rare soul' dealers lost most their business exclusivity. The whole 'soul' market turned even more speculative, opportunistic and open to new money sharks, worldwide commercialist exploiters and fools throwing in their money pushing up the prices high up.

The "sercrecy" I was referring to is as to who has the hand on all those copies and how many... Because if all of that was known, like it was sometimes the case in the past, things would be different. Now it's not known and the whole business around those records is indeed not helping the good and proper business IMO.

Edited May 16, 2021 by Tlscapital

[Tricky]

The bit I fail to get is the £300 to £400 price tag people want for it.

It was always on my Detroit radar as a pleasant instrumental that I would like cheap.I knew of few copies.

The vocal is average and of no interest to me.

I can see why Matthew Barnett fetched money,this less so.

As I said it seems to me a few people have caught a cold with this as it’s a difficult sell by the looks of it.

 

[Tlscapital]

2 hours ago, Tricky said:

The bit I fail to get is the £300 to £400 price tag people want for it.

It was always on my Detroit radar as a pleasant instrumental that I would like cheap.I knew of few copies.

The vocal is average and of no interest to me.

I can see why Matthew Barnett fetched money,this less so.

As I said it seems to me a few people have caught a cold with this as it’s a difficult sell by the looks of it.

 

The instrumental is fair. Totally agree with you there. The vocal not my thing. Even though no contender for me at that price. Even if I had a copy home I would swap it for something more "my street".

At first I believed that this 45 was more either for the Detroit record collector's completists, the "forwarded" northern soul dee-jays into the funky'N'all weir stuffs or the American northern soul  dudes.

A rare record, OK. Now less but still none the less not that common. And really not so good either. Could it be that they're trying to push it with a "high to impress" 'bling-bling' price tag to attract the fools ?

Edited May 16, 2021 by Tlscapital

[Salvosoul]

Same for 

la Wanda Williams on keke

melvin Davis on keke

more Ex copy for sale every month ?????