Pic and Bill

[Gaz T]

A thing I can think of with soul 33s at the min is get a copy of the Pic and Bill 

A few copy's in France and Spain 

just get a copy and enjoy

John M is right stating the USA 45 charay copy is rare

But the Spanish and French  copy's of the lp and 45 and lp are also getting invisisibibe these days

with the lp only track

baby come back, lovely soul tune 

fantastic ! 

top soul tunes !

go find

 

 

[Mal C]

they are out there, I bought the Lp off here some years ago, then when I lived in Spain found another in Northern Spain and the Spanish 45 south of Madrid...  had the Chary 'Talk about Love' 45, sold it on here a few moths back, 'What does it take' is the rare one, also as the fiery Spartans or something ... that is really rare.

But their other slower Charay 45's are all great and very cheap in comparison, I'd buy those tracks personally, and the Uk Page One releases, 'Sad World' 'All I want is You'  'I love you Baby'   all supreme quality, they never made a bad record

[Gaz T]

Cheers Mal 

Agree, the Spanish and French bits are still out there, but I bet you wont see them so much as times goes by as they disappear into collections.

Has baby come back ever had any big plays on the northern scene ?

  

[Mal C]

I'm sure it has been played once or twice, such a great track can't go unnoticed. the reason I think its never been massive is because it never came out on 45... but that's all changing isn't it, LP tracks are easy plunder for record labels these days...

Edited May 14, 2021 by Mal C

[davidwapples]

I had the charay talk about love but sold it for 230 about 10 years ago so picked up the lp

 

Found what does it take on facebook sales for 8 quid so bought it but then sold via a dealer and I ended up with 800

 

Lp is still around but shouldn't be more than 30 to 40 quid

[Benji]

plenty of reasonable priced copies of the various releases of the album available on Discogs.

[Dave Pinch]

The charay 45 of talk about love is too loud..  bordering on distortion at times

[Tricky]

Fiery Spartans (Pic & Bill) is the hardest variation by a country mile.

Earlier number as well.

[Louise]

1 hour ago, Tricky said:

Fiery Spartans (Pic & Bill) is the hardest variation by a country mile.

Earlier number as well.

Spot on Trevor old son

 

[Mal C]

On 14/05/2021 at 22:16, Dave Pinch said:

The charay 45 of talk about love is too loud..  bordering on distortion at times

I'm glad you say that as I thought I just had a bad copy, it sounded dreadful, much better on my Lp...:-)

23 hours ago, Tricky said:

Fiery Spartans (Pic & Bill) is the hardest variation by a country mile.

Earlier number as well.

only ever see one, which I think was owned by someone on here, and it was for sale not that long ago..

the 'What does it take' 45  I know was sold by Pete Smith a few years back for £1000 to a well know Northern soul dj, so that gives you a price point on that one.

*just been informed abut the final sale price, so have changed it..

Edited May 16, 2021 by Mal C

[Sebastian]

I used to collect Pic & Bill. Both "What Does It Take" and the Fiery Spartans 45 are incredibly scarce. I also have the Pic & Bill credited "Talk About Love" 45 on Charay (exists with two different flipsides though). I probably should get rid of one of those "TAL"'s, as I don't need two! 

[Mal C]

That’s a beautiful sight that lovely brace of 45s

id have to check which one I had,  but are both releases of ‘Talk about love’ recorded too loud, or is it just the one release Sebastian?   

 

Edited May 17, 2021 by Mal C

[Sebastian]

33 minutes ago, Mal C said:

That’s a beautiful sight that lovely brace of 45s

id have to check which one I had,  but are both releases of ‘Talk about love’ recorded too loud, or is it just the one release Sebastian?   

 

All three Charay issues of "Talk About Love" are pressed from the same stamper/mother if I remember correctly. It is mastered loud, but my copies sound OK. Might be a case of sounding better with some styluses etc.

[Mal C]

Thats good to know, might ping you a pm on your other copy,  Here are some nice scans to look at Love you baby, same song as the Moovers on Brent, not sure which came first...

Edited May 17, 2021 by Mal C

[Tricky]

You do learn something new every day.Love the Moovers

and I now love Pic and Bills version.

Thank You Mal 

[Mal C]

da nada  forgot 'all I want' also got a release on Le Cam.  think thats quite rare 45 also.

[Benji]

All I Want Is You - what a fantastic song. Alltime fave of mine.