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[Zanetti]

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[Zanetti]

Incredibles - 765£ 

Robert John - 243£

Locations - 1634£

Towanda Barnes - 351£

 

[Zanetti]

2 minutes ago, Zanetti said:

Incredibles - 765£ 

I am now absolutely no expert what UK pressings concerns ... but this is really a blast, isn't it?
The US pressing reaches maybe a third if at all ...

[Zanetti]

Other Brothers - 842£

[davidwapples]

I paid 14 for a vg+ huriah boynton last year on here and none on popsike reaching 3 figures

 

Am I missing something? 

Edited May 12, 2021 by davidwapples

[Winsford Soul]

Good evening.  And thank you for posting as always mate

[Julianb]

56 minutes ago, Zanetti said:

Incredibles - 765£ 

Robert John - 243£

Locations - 1634£

Towanda Barnes - 351£

 

Maybe time to dust off the Locations and get it in the playbox?

[Solidsoul]

50 minutes ago, davidwapples said:

I paid 14 for a vg+ huriah boynton last year on here and none on popsike reaching 3 figures

 

Am I missing something? 

There is a reissue of Huriah Boynton that's been about for a long time! The label has a paler red label than the richer red first issue. I had this in my selling box for years and nobody ever showed any interest in it! Strange how it got to £970!

Edited May 12, 2021 by D9 KTF

[Solidsoul]

1 hour ago, Zanetti said:

Incredibles - 765£ 

Robert John - 243£

Locations - 1634£

Towanda Barnes - 351£

 

That's the money Towanda Barnes should be getting. Loved it since I first heard it in Wigan Casino!

Edited May 12, 2021 by D9 KTF

[davidwapples]

9 minutes ago, D9 KTF said:

There is a reissue of Huriah Boynton that's been about for a long time! The label has a paler red label than the richer red first issue. I had this in my selling box for years and nobody ever showed any interest in it! Strange how it got to £970!

Yes the reissue has the number 8n brackets on the label and lighter red colour

[Stanley]

1 hour ago, Zanetti said:

I am now absolutely no expert what UK pressings concerns ... but this is really a blast, isn't it?
The US pressing reaches maybe a third if at all ...

the uk incredibles demo is a rare piece and has always had a respectable value.doesn,t surprise me i had it at 550 in my book.

 

[Winsford Soul]

2 minutes ago, Stanley said:

the uk incredibles demo is a rare piece and has always had a respectable value.doesn,t surprise me i had it at 550 in my book.

 

George.  Like we have mentioned to each other in the past. UK stuff is now starting to get the prices that some of the better, rarest stuff deserves.  Bet your happy with that mate. . Knowing what you have

[Tomangoes]

That locations track must be fairly rare?

Its a great simple low budget detroit production, but it must be the rarity that takes it to plus fifteen hundred.

Detroit collectors must have deep pockets!

Ed

[Nick Soule]

48 minutes ago, Tomangoes said:

That locations track must be fairly rare?

Its a great simple low budget detroit production, but it must be the rarity that takes it to plus fifteen hundred.

Detroit collectors must have deep pockets!

Ed

Hopefully a Detroit collector didn't buy it because of John's description. It's an LA record. 

[Tomangoes]

14 minutes ago, Nick Soule said:

Hopefully a Detroit collector didn't buy it because of John's description. It's an LA record. 

Ha ha....

I don't think so.....

Ed

[Scooterboy]

1 hour ago, davidwapples said:

Yes the reissue has the number 8n brackets on the label and lighter red colour

Prefer Willy Mallory myself...

[The Yank]

17 minutes ago, Tomangoes said:

Ha ha....

I don't think so.....

Ed

  I think Nick is right - 

 

[Tomangoes]

My money is on Johnny ' does this for a living ' Manship.

Ed

[Nick Soule]

In addition to the other record on the label having an LA address, I suspect John is getting his information about the writer, Ronald Davis, from the BMI repertoire which confusingly has the Correc-tone writer, a Philadelphia based writer/performer, and what I assume is a third LA-based writer all under the same Ronald Davis profile. 

BMI repertoire:
Ronald Davis

The Philadelphia-based Ronald Davis has a profile on ReverbNation that states his first recording studio experience was at Sigma Sound in Philly, which wasn't founded until 1968 - same year as the Locations 45, and multiple years after the Detroit records. You can cross-reference the songs listed on RN with the titles on the BMI repertoire.
Ronald Davis ReverbNation Profile

Aside from all of that, it doesn't look or sound like a Detroit record to me.
 

[The Yank]

20 minutes ago, Tomangoes said:

My money is on Johnny ' does this for a living ' Manship.

Ed

   You might want to tell Johnny "does this for a living" Manship that "Joey Byers" who wrote "Somebody's Always Trying" for Ted Taylor(auction ends 19/05/2021)  is actually Joy Byers the wife of Bob Johnston.

     No one is perfect- we all make mistakes sometimes. 

Edited May 12, 2021 by The Yank

[Tomangoes]

Its too late for mistakes now.

If you are going to sell a rare record, and include a back story, and you've been doing this for a long long time, you better get your facts right or your reputation is blown away.

Never mind the quality, feel the width...springs to mind.

Of course we all make mistakes...

My thoughts were the first release was a detroit production since a writer with that name is mentioned on several detroit records.

If its actually a different R Davies...fair do's 

Ed

 

[Kenb]

I’ve made mistakes when researching such things, but @Nick Souleis correct. No doubt about it California.

[Modernsoulsucks]

Aside from all of that, it doesn't look or sound like a Detroit record to me.

 

Come on ! It's round with a big hole !

I thought it was common knowledge it was West Coast which is why I upticked your post.

[Chalky]

11 hours ago, Tomangoes said:

That locations track must be fairly rare?

Its a great simple low budget detroit production, but it must be the rarity that takes it to plus fifteen hundred.

Detroit collectors must have deep pockets!

Ed

Ir is extremely rare and for something like Huriah Boynton to fetch nearly as much just shows how fcuked up the collecting scene is. It is. As said it is a west Coast record too not Detroit.  You only have to look at they other releases which bear the same credits or similar & even have an address. 
 

PS Just seen the follow up posts with the label scans

Edited May 13, 2021 by Chalky

[Kenb]

I have this from When i was "trying to find the Locations".

Ronald S. Davis (writer) died in 1991. He was the grandson of Herb Zwicker (producer). His uncle was called Paul ( whether this has anything to do with Ron Paul i don't know).

I think possible San Fernando was their 'district'.

 

[Blackpoolsoul]

40 minutes ago, Kenb said:

I have this from When i was "trying to find the Locations".

Ronald S. Davis (writer) died in 1991. He was the grandson of Herb Zwicker (producer). His uncle was called Paul ( whether this has anything to do with Ron Paul i don't know).

I think possible San Fernando was their 'district'.

 

This comment "might" help from this blog

https://maximumfun.org/news/go-home-commie/

[Martyn Pitt]

13 hours ago, D9 KTF said:

That's the money Towanda Barnes should be getting. Loved it since I first heard it in Wigan Casino!

The Ohio Players version on Compass is worth a listen, has a subtle difference to it, and was always cheaper than Towanda Barnes version.

[Winsford Soul]

5 minutes ago, Martyn Pitt said:

The Ohio Players version on Compass is worth a listen, has a subtle difference to it, and was always cheaper than Towanda Barnes version.

Better version in my humble opinion Martyn

[Martyn Pitt]

6 minutes ago, Winsford Soul said:

Better version in my humble opinion Martyn

Well worth the ten bob I paid for it mate, I had to pay a couple of quid for the Towanda Barnes version 

[Solidsoul]

4 hours ago, Martyn Pitt said:

The Ohio Players version on Compass is worth a listen, has a subtle difference to it, and was always cheaper than Towanda Barnes version.

It sounds to me that Ohio Players is vocally poor (he talks it, more than sings!) compared to wonderful Towanda Barnes.

Although the funkier production on the Ohio Players version may  be more in vogue these days!

Edited May 13, 2021 by D9 KTF

[Winsford Soul]

1 minute ago, Martyn Pitt said:

Well worth the ten bob I paid for it mate, I had to pay a couple of quid for the Towanda Barnes version 

Think my Ohio players was about £5. Can't remember what I payed for Towanda version, wasn't much though, not that I have either now

[Mal C]

I shamed myself last week on the JM Auction thread, so I'll say simply this again, they are all mad!! and they are gonna loose a load of dosh on them records!! 

It's true...