Lorelei unreleased track?

[Briank]

I have a reel with three tracks, but 2 are from their Columbia 45.  However, the 3rd I do not know.  It's called: We never got together. Was this song ever released? Does anyone know their names?  Is this the same take as the 45 release?

 

Edited April 21, 2021 by Briank
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[Tlscapital]

The 'stop' sounds the same to the 45 release. As for the unknown title 'we never got together'... I can't say nor find anything on a quick search. What does it sound like ?

[Goldsoul]

2 hours ago, Tlscapital said:

The 'stop' sounds the same to the 45 release. As for the unknown title 'we never got together'... I can't say nor find anything on a quick search. What does it sound like ?

 

2 hours ago, Tlscapital said:

The 'stop' sounds the same to the 45 release. As for the unknown title 'we never got together'... I can't say nor find anything on a quick search. What does it sound like ?

Hi- Producer Norman Bergen is a friend of mine. Will reach out to him now. 

[Briank]

On 21/04/2021 at 04:28, Goldsoul said:

 

Hi- Producer Norman Bergen is a friend of mine. Will reach out to him now. 

Here's a clip.  Curious to hear what he has to say.

 

Edited May 16, 2021 by Briank

[Briank]

I can not find out the singers names.  Does anyone know?

[The Yank]

This is the only info I could find on the group besides details about their 45 -  (from Cashbox - July, 1972)

 

Edited April 23, 2021 by The Yank

[Briank]

I decided to look at my Cashbox and Record world books and found that they charted in both stating they were a studio group assembled by Don Oriolo. Neither books say their names.

[The Yank]

I did some snooping on you tube and someone says Don Oriolo told them the group was from Newark, New Jersey. Another person says this singer was part of the group-

 

Edited April 23, 2021 by The Yank

[Briank]

I dont have the 45 and did not find it on utube, so i dont know what it sound like.  Do you  know if she is black or white singer?

[The Yank]

Cashbox describes the song as "a soulful ballad".

[Briank]

That's about what Discogs says.  No audio clips and no info on her there either.

[Briank]

On 23/04/2021 at 18:21, The Yank said:

This is the only info I could find on the group besides details about their 45 -  (from Cashbox - July, 1972)

 

They are a trio as there was a picture of them in the box the tape is in.

[Tlscapital]

4 hours ago, Briank said:

They are a trio as there was a picture of them in the box the tape is in.

Can we see ? 

[Briank]

I would think that they would have made a TV appearance somewhere since ''Stop'' did make the charts in Cashbox and Record World.

[purist]

Is it a coincidence of the name(s) or are they in any way connected, the STOP group you're talking about and the ones who recorded that nice northern tune on Brunswick ( A Strange Way) Can't be that many years between both recordings 5/6 years I'm guessing ?
Do we know if they share any of the same personnel ?
 

 

Edited May 9, 2021 by purist

[Briank]

I don't think they share members.  If the picture is correct on Discogs the Brunswick group shows two white girls and the Columbia group are 3 black girls.

Edited May 9, 2021 by Briank

[Soul-slider]

3 hours ago, Briank said:

I don't think they share members.  If the picture is correct on Discogs the Brunswick group shows two white girls and the Columbia group are 3 black girls.

Don't think the Discogs photo is correct for the Brunswick group. 45cat is only showing the one release and notes claim there is 3 of them in the group. Here's a quote from jukeboxgeorge on that site regarding the Brunswick 45.

According to John Clemente's Girl Groups: Fabulous Females Who Rocked the World, this trio was Sylvia Hammond (formerly of The Clickettes), Gloria Gilbert, and Jehoshabeth (Jay) Dunston. They hooked up with Samada Productions (Sampson Horton/Bobby Adams) when Johnnielouise Richardson was slow in securing a deal for the trio.

 

Edited May 9, 2021 by Soul-slider

[Briank]

Ok, that explains the Brunswick group, but does not mean they are a part of the Columbia Group.  So far we have Valerie Harp being stated a part of the group by Don Oriolo stated by ''The Yank'' earlier.

[The Yank]

And here's a later  single written by Valerie- 

 

[Briank]

I could not find either Valerie Harp releases on utube.

[Djr]

Here's a picture of the Lorelei In have on a poster from a soul concert in Newark, NJ where Jackie Wilson headlines

[Briank]

Very nice poster.  Now what are all their names?

[Soul-slider]

8 hours ago, Briank said:

Very nice poster.  Now what are all their names?

So one is Valerie Harp?

 

Edited May 16, 2021 by Soul-slider

[Briank]

On 23/04/2021 at 18:39, The Yank said:

I did some snooping on you tube and someone says Don Oriolo told them the group was from Newark, New Jersey. Another person says this singer was part of the group-

 

The Yank says this as quoted.  I got a email saying they are: Sylvia Hammond, Gloria Gilbert, and Jejoshabeth (Jay) Dunston from Soul Sider. Can you say where you get this info from?

Edited May 29, 2021 by Briank