Is Is Possible For Non-soul Records To Be Soulful ?

[Guest deketh]

I was flicking through a few tracks on my I-Pod last night and came to the conclusion that there are - in my own collection and i'm sure in the collections of many other people on here - very 'soulful' ( for that read emotional, laden with pathos, tragic, heartfelt, deep, heartbreaking yet ultimately uplifting) records that aren't actually soul.

Here's 5 things plucked off my I-Pod. I think each of them is - in its own way 'soulful';

BB King - Chains and Things

Miles Davis - Lift to the Scaffold ( or whatever the translation is for that album)

Nick Drake - Pink Moon

Johnny Cash - Sun Sessions

Alton Ellis - Rocksteady

I think what I am getting at is this. Soul is not the only emotional music out there, but it's probably the finest example of a genre that's dedicated to getting to the nub of matters, and all things of the soul and the heart. However, all of the above touch on the raw emotional nerves that the best soul music also occupies and by doing so occupy a place in my affections normally restricted for soul.

Opinions?

Hammy

yes hammy any good record has to have a soul , but i don`t think it has have a vocal on it i`ve got some proper emotional moving instruMENTAL 12".

but i do think all the great artists and bands are influenced by the sound of black america and also a little island in the carrebeannnnnn.

(THE CLASH and PRIMAL SCREAM to name two).

also there are a lot of soul records that aren`t soulful.

all da best - kevin "J" etheridge

[Guest deketh]

I was flicking through a few tracks on my I-Pod last night and came to the conclusion that there are - in my own collection and i'm sure in the collections of many other people on here - very 'soulful' ( for that read emotional, laden with pathos, tragic, heartfelt, deep, heartbreaking yet ultimately uplifting) records that aren't actually soul.

Here's 5 things plucked off my I-Pod. I think each of them is - in its own way 'soulful';

BB King - Chains and Things

Miles Davis - Lift to the Scaffold ( or whatever the translation is for that album)

Nick Drake - Pink Moon

Johnny Cash - Sun Sessions

Alton Ellis - Rocksteady

I think what I am getting at is this. Soul is not the only emotional music out there, but it's probably the finest example of a genre that's dedicated to getting to the nub of matters, and all things of the soul and the heart. However, all of the above touch on the raw emotional nerves that the best soul music also occupies and by doing so occupy a place in my affections normally restricted for soul.

Opinions?

Hammy

yes hammy any good record has to have a soul , but i don`t think it has have a vocal on it i`ve got some proper emotional moving instruMENTAL 12".

but i do think all the great artists and bands are influenced by the sound of black america and also a little island in the carrebeannnnnn.

(THE CLASH and PRIMAL SCREAM to name two).

also there are a lot of soul records that aren`t soulful.

all da best - kevin "J" etheridge

[Guest deketh]

so nice i had to say it twice(as gregory issacs would say).

and once again .

kev.

[Guest]

That's right Ken. On Blossom Street. I think it closed down recently. Maybe Top Cat, Trevski or one of the other Yorkies on here can tell us more.

When the Stephen Joseph Theatre moved from its home in Westwood to the abandoned Odeon building there was uproar in the town about the amount of funding the council provided while closing some public toilets. It became known as the battle of the Luvvies and the Lavvies .

I'm really pleased the theatre supporters stuck to their guns. It's a magnificent building and the STJ contributes hugely to the town's profile in terms of tourism and culture. A triumph over local press led short sightedness.

Godz

I`m sure Billywizz(RIP) used to live across the road,but its a long time ago.

Edited January 28, 2007 by ken

[Guest WPaulVanDyk]

i can't post a clip here yet until i find it but one song i do like that i find very soulful is Mariah Carey - We Belong Together and not only that but i have the remix which is much better and it was dreamed to me that for some strange it had got played out on the moderm scene and some Northern DJ played it first time and we all went what the hell.

If i can find remix i have of it will post up. for one thing Mariah is always R & B not soul

Just tried to add but is wma file so won't upload if anyone wants to hear it i will send in e-mail specially.

Edited January 29, 2007 by WPaulVanDyk

[Guest johnm]

This is a live version but there is a version of this on the Springsteen video anthology 1978-2000

which just grabs you. If I can figure out how to get the dvd version up I'll try.

5 soulful deliveries. ........ brilliant

Edited January 29, 2007 by johnm

[Guest ShaneH]

I disagree John Riley is Sheffields finest IMHO If you don't believe me listen to the link I posted earlier

Taxi for chrissieo

QoFxxxxx

hi chrisseo

john is a scouser living in sheffield. met him a few times.

shane

[Guest ShaneH]

Do you mean Coles Corner Shane? The actual cover shot was of the Stephen Joseph Theatre in Scarborough aka Alan Ayckbourn's gaff. I believe it was the closest thing to the original Coles Corner which was demolished some time ago. The STJ was originally an Odeon Cinema and as the photos show is in the classic art deco picture house style.

Godz

hi godz. yeah i know about the coles corner photo. i was referring to his earlier album - late night final. the photo for this was took in the castle market in sheffield. see below

[Guest ShaneH]

richard hawley - the ocean

let it play and listen to how this one builds. great strings too by a couple of girls i know here in sheffield.

shane

[Guest mrs norman maine]

Aaaaah, lovely! Thanks Shane, my duck