Guest hammy Posted January 27, 2007 Posted January 27, 2007 I was flicking through a few tracks on my I-Pod last night and came to the conclusion that there are - in my own collection and i'm sure in the collections of many other people on here - very 'soulful' ( for that read emotional, laden with pathos, tragic, heartfelt, deep, heartbreaking yet ultimately uplifting) records that aren't actually soul. Here's 5 things plucked off my I-Pod. I think each of them is - in its own way 'soulful'; BB King - Chains and Things Miles Davis - Lift to the Scaffold ( or whatever the translation is for that album) Nick Drake - Pink Moon Johnny Cash - Sun Sessions Alton Ellis - Rocksteady I think what I am getting at is this. Soul is not the only emotional music out there, but it's probably the finest example of a genre that's dedicated to getting to the nub of matters, and all things of the soul and the heart. However, all of the above touch on the raw emotional nerves that the best soul music also occupies and by doing so occupy a place in my affections normally restricted for soul. Opinions? Hammy
Sebastian Posted January 27, 2007 Posted January 27, 2007 I Would Be In Love (Anyway) - frank sinatra - reprise 13945 refosoul This has me weeping everytime I hear it. Emotional and soulful in the extreme. In my opinion, ofcourse. More than 50% of my records are "non-soul" and I get the same kind of satifaction from most of it as I get from soul music.
Jaco Posted January 27, 2007 Posted January 27, 2007 You bet! Anybody who has heard the Nine Inch Nails song "Hurt" by Johhny Cash would surely believe that it is soulful. Also "The unfaithful servant" by The Band would do it for me everytime.
Sebastian Posted January 27, 2007 Posted January 27, 2007 Also "The unfaithful servant" by The Band would do it for me everytime. The Band! What a band!!! Love them! "It Makes No Difference" drips with soul. As does most of their stuff.
Bazza Posted January 27, 2007 Posted January 27, 2007 (edited) Sugar Town - nancy sinatra - 13946 refosoul Is this soulfull,I think it is Bazza Edited January 27, 2007 by bazza
Jaco Posted January 27, 2007 Posted January 27, 2007 The Band! What a band!!! Love them! "It Makes No Difference" drips with soul. As does most of their stuff. Robbie Robertson is, in my opinion, one of the greatest songwriters that has ever lived - I don't think there is a single track penned by him that I do not like.
Guest hammy Posted January 27, 2007 Posted January 27, 2007 OK Maybe I see it a bit like this. The adjectives I've used above to describe a few bits of music can be used to describe something as soulful, but for something to become 'soul' requires a fuller descrption. I ascribe to the view that it has to be african american to be soul music - this is what makes a genre of music distinct - poles apart maybe - from the term 'soulful'. The use of the term soul in relation to jazz is interesting as it emphasised a return to the 'roots' of the music when many felt the frenetic excess of bebop was drawing the music toward self-indulgence. Although the hard-bop movement maybe took a different tack and added attitudes of cool, introspection and experimentation. Musicians looked inwards and dug deep into the soul for answers to lifes questions, especially those emerging from the political climate of late 50s and early 60s America. Hammy
Guest Posted January 27, 2007 Posted January 27, 2007 I was flicking through a few tracks on my I-Pod last night and came to the conclusion that there are - in my own collection and i'm sure in the collections of many other people on here - very 'soulful' ( for that read emotional, laden with pathos, tragic, heartfelt, deep, heartbreaking yet ultimately uplifting) records that aren't actually soul. Here's 5 things plucked off my I-Pod. I think each of them is - in its own way 'soulful'; BB King - Chains and Things Miles Davis - Lift to the Scaffold ( or whatever the translation is for that album) Nick Drake - Pink Moon Johnny Cash - Sun Sessions Alton Ellis - Rocksteady I think what I am getting at is this. Soul is not the only emotional music out there, but it's probably the finest example of a genre that's dedicated to getting to the nub of matters, and all things of the soul and the heart. However, all of the above touch on the raw emotional nerves that the best soul music also occupies and by doing so occupy a place in my affections normally restricted for soul. Opinions? Hammy I hold no apologies for selecting this - Wet Wet Wet " This Time " , written by Willie Mitchell & Ed Adams Jr , from the Willie Mitchell produced " Memphis Sessions " album . Marty Pellow does a very creditable job on the track , and the whole thing comes over as one of the most soulful things I have heard . I would love to hear the Reverand Al getting together with Willie and doing a version . Malc
John Reed Posted January 27, 2007 Posted January 27, 2007 Johnny Cash - Sun Sessions Apart from "a boy names sue", I think Jonny Cash sung deep from his soul, does that make it soul? I dont know, but I do know that I would rather listen to him than some of the "soul" artists today (even though there are some very good new soul artists around at present). Tom Jones is another one, who I think is up there. On a slightly different vein I thought the Blow Monkeys in the 80's produced some of the most soul orientated pop records ever. If Curtis Mayfield chose to record with them, who am I to question if they were soulful or not.
Guest Posted January 27, 2007 Posted January 27, 2007 I like Richard Harris,save is Motown LP he`s pretty soulfull.PJ Proby is good to.
Guest Posted January 27, 2007 Posted January 27, 2007 to make a big man cry - p j proby - liberty 13969 refosoul Bit fukced,but it`ll give the idea.
Chalky Posted January 27, 2007 Posted January 27, 2007 (edited) if a non soul record was soulful it wouldn't be a non soul record but a soul record wouldn't it..... Edited January 27, 2007 by chalky
harly7 Posted January 27, 2007 Posted January 27, 2007 You bet! Anybody who has heard the Nine Inch Nails song "Hurt" by Johhny Cash would surely believe that it is soulful. Precisely! I remember when this came on the telly while i was wandering aimlessly around the house (as you do!) and it just stopped me in my tracks. Can't claim to be a great fan of the man but this floored me. WOW ! Had me rushing off to the pc and onto "limewire" to get it into my itunes double quick. Another singer in a similar vein that's been growing steadily on me lately is Tim Hardin - especially "if i were a carpenter" - goosebumps! martin
Guest Matt Male Posted January 27, 2007 Posted January 27, 2007 I'm not sure if ole' blue eyes etc.. are soulful. There's always been a fine line between easy listening and some soul in my opinion. I think these are definately easy listening. just look at all the Burt Bacharach stuff done by Dionne Warwick and Maxine Brown etc.. Is it soul or easy listening? It's Maxine and Dionne that make the difference maybe.
KevH Posted January 27, 2007 Posted January 27, 2007 You bet! Anybody who has heard the Nine Inch Nails song "Hurt" by Johhny Cash would surely believe that it is soulful. Also "The unfaithful servant" by The Band would do it for me everytime. the answer to the thread question is YES.Totally agree with "Hurt" by Johnny Cash.....what a toon Jaco.
Baz Atkinson Posted January 27, 2007 Posted January 27, 2007 GOOD THREAD THIS WELL WHERE DO YOU START,BLACK DOG-LED ZEP AND STAIRWAY,THE SINGER BY NICK CAVE AND THE BAD SEEDS,LOVE IN THE GHETTO BY ELVIS ,OH AND DWELLER ON THE THRESHOLD BY VAN MORRISON.NEIL YOUNG MOST OF HIS STUFF AND JOHNNY CASH WELL OF COURSE ,THAT LAST TRACK HE DONE AND VIDEO COULD WELL BE DEMMED VERY SOULFUL INDEED. BAZ A
Guest mrs norman maine Posted January 27, 2007 Posted January 27, 2007 IN THE GHETTO BY ELVIS ..................AND JOHNNY CASH I was driving past the place where The Norfolk Village used to be in London, feeling a bit forlorn anyway. Listening to the radio and on comes a record I'd never heard before: Ben Folds' "The Luckiest". Had to pull over to the side of the road to cry FFS! Also love Richard Hawley's "Hotel Room" which is in the style of the late, great, Johnny C. Both are soulful yes, but soul no, if you see what I mean. I'm a bit of a sucker for a man getting all emotional
Sweeney Posted January 27, 2007 Posted January 27, 2007 (edited) It Was a Very Good Year - frank sinatra - reprise 13995 refosoul Sebastian - Another Frank Sinatra track on Reprise that has a certain soulful quality. Edited January 27, 2007 by sweeney
Pete S Posted January 27, 2007 Posted January 27, 2007 Jeff Buckey - Hallelujah. Last time I can remember being stopped in my tracks by a song
KevH Posted January 27, 2007 Posted January 27, 2007 GOOD THREAD THIS WELL WHERE DO YOU START,BLACK DOG-LED ZEP AND STAIRWAY,THE SINGER BY NICK CAVE AND THE BAD SEEDS,LOVE IN THE GHETTO BY ELVIS ,OH AND DWELLER ON THE THRESHOLD BY VAN MORRISON.NEIL YOUNG MOST OF HIS STUFF AND JOHNNY CASH WELL OF COURSE ,THAT LAST TRACK HE DONE AND VIDEO COULD WELL BE DEMMED VERY SOULFUL INDEED. BAZ A uote] what was the Nick Cave + Kylie track a few years back? ,... " where the roses grow", or something like that.....Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds..ooooh!!!
Guest mel brat Posted January 27, 2007 Posted January 27, 2007 I was flicking through a few tracks on my I-Pod last night and came to the conclusion that there are - in my own collection and i'm sure in the collections of many other people on here - very 'soulful' ( for that read emotional, laden with pathos, tragic, heartfelt, deep, heartbreaking yet ultimately uplifting) records that aren't actually soul.... I think what I am getting at is this. Soul is not the only emotional music out there, but it's probably the finest example of a genre that's dedicated to getting to the nub of matters, and all things of the soul and the heart. However, all of the above touch on the raw emotional nerves that the best soul music also occupies and by doing so occupy a place in my affections normally restricted for soul. Opinions? Hammy I agree. Perhaps that's what makes genuine Soul so difficult to define and pin down! Also I've noticed that many non-soul records that have certain characteristics that appeal to other Soul fans besides me. I reckon songs like "Baker Street" by Gerry Rafferty, with it's haunting saxophone breaks, have many characteristics of 60s pop as well, which gives it's the "instant nostalgia" appeal I mentioned in another thread, without being unduly contrived. The Beatles were masters of this (the moody cellos in "Eleanore Rigby" creating an appropriate atmosphere which compliments the lyrics perfectly) I maintain that MELODY is crucial to the "soulfulness" of a recording. Certain chord changes can "tug at the heartstrings" (no pun intended!), and add to this mix a genuinely involved and credible vocal performance and you're left with emotional dynamite! Burt Bacharach is also a master of this type of production I feel, and is wise enough to select performers that can deliver his musical vision, Dionne Warwick's "Walk On By" was the FIRST pop record to literally 'stop me in my tracks' at the age of 10! - though without these soulful singers he veers towards "easy listening" and pop. P.S. Have you heard the first Stephanie Mills album on Motown? All Burt Bacharach and Hal David songs!
Guest mel brat Posted January 27, 2007 Posted January 27, 2007 I was flicking through a few tracks on my I-Pod last night and came to the conclusion that there are - in my own collection and i'm sure in the collections of many other people on here - very 'soulful' ( for that read emotional, laden with pathos, tragic, heartfelt, deep, heartbreaking yet ultimately uplifting) records that aren't actually soul.... I think what I am getting at is this. Soul is not the only emotional music out there, but it's probably the finest example of a genre that's dedicated to getting to the nub of matters, and all things of the soul and the heart. However, all of the above touch on the raw emotional nerves that the best soul music also occupies and by doing so occupy a place in my affections normally restricted for soul. Opinions? Hammy I agree. Perhaps that's what makes genuine Soul so difficult to define and pin down! Also I've noticed that many non-soul records that have certain characteristics that appeal to other Soul fans besides me. I reckon songs like "Baker Street" by Gerry Rafferty, with it's haunting saxophone breaks, have many characteristics of 60s pop as well, which gives it's the "instant nostalgia" appeal I mentioned in another thread, without being unduly contrived. The Beatles were masters of this (the moody cellos in "Eleanore Rigby" creating an appropriate atmosphere which compliments the lyrics perfectly) I maintain that MELODY is crucial to the "soulfulness" of a recording. Certain chord changes can "tug at the heartstrings" (no pun intended!), and add to this mix a genuinely involved and credible vocal performance and you're left with emotional dynamite! Burt Bacharach is also a master of this type of production I feel, and is wise enough to select performers that can deliver his musical vision, Dionne Warwick's "Walk On By" was the FIRST pop record to literally 'stop me in my tracks' at the age of 10! - though without these soulful singers he veers towards "easy listening" and pop. I spent several years seeking to duplicate this emotional "musical hit", before discovering it was a mysterious ingrediant called 'Soul' that was responsible all along! P.S. Have you heard the first Stephanie Mills album on Motown? All Burt Bacharach and Hal David songs!
Guest Leigh J Posted January 27, 2007 Posted January 27, 2007 I was driving past the place where The Norfolk Village used to be in London, feeling a bit forlorn anyway. Listening to the radio and on comes a record I'd never heard before: Ben Folds' "The Luckiest". Had to pull over to the side of the road to cry FFS! Also love Richard Hawley's "Hotel Room" which is in the style of the late, great, Johnny C. Both are soulful yes, but soul no, if you see what I mean. I'm a bit of a sucker for a man getting all emotional That richard Hawley Album Is Great Isnt It , Born Under a Bad Sign Is my Fave , Back To The Topic Anything By The Carpenters ..............My Mum Always Had Them On When I Was A Kid And As I Havnt Seen Her For Years When I Hear Especially 'Weve Only Just Begun ' The Hairs On The Back Of My Neck Stand Up .
Dave Abbott Posted January 27, 2007 Posted January 27, 2007 You bet! Anybody who has heard the Nine Inch Nails song "Hurt" by Johhny Cash would surely believe that it is soulful. Also "The unfaithful servant" by The Band would do it for me everytime. listening to this and watching the video at the same time is one of the emotive things imo. i remember getting home from a soul nite when it was released and saw it on tv and then waking lots of people up by texting them and saying that this was really soul. watch it with the video and if you're not moved, you aint got no soul imo. https://www.youtube.com/watch_fullscreen?vi...tle=Cash%20Hurt
Guest Leigh J Posted January 27, 2007 Posted January 27, 2007 I'm not sure if ole' blue eyes etc.. are soulful. There's always been a fine line between easy listening and some soul in my opinion. I think these are definately easy listening. just look at all the Burt Bacharach stuff done by Dionne Warwick and Maxine Brown etc.. Is it soul or easy listening? It's Maxine and Dionne that make the difference maybe. Im Not A Great Fan Of BB But Maxine Brown Could Sing The Ace Of Spades And It Would Be Soulful Because Shes Got It
Guest in town Mikey Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 (edited) The Hot House Flowers may have been an 'Oirish Rock' band, but live they were/are as soulful as anyone. I'm Sorry on LP or CD is a good song. But live, drips with soul. Eddie Reader singing - First of a million kisses or Allelujah New Model Army - Green and Grey All soulful to my rather large ears. Edited January 28, 2007 by in town Mikey
chrissie Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 The Band! What a band!!! Love them! "It Makes No Difference" drips with soul. As does most of their stuff. Totally agree, my "Last Waltz" video is one of my most treaured possesion. Robbie Robertson one of my all time musical icons. QoFxx
chrissie Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 Totally agree, my "Last Waltz" video is one of my most treaured possesion. Robbie Robertson one of my all time musical icons. QoFxx A track I found very soulfull is "Words Inside" by Boy on a Dolphin" which I cant find a clip of but this is another one, fire, by them that makes the hairs on my neck stand up, does that mean it's soulfull? QoFxx
Drew3 Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 I said this on a much earlier thread but here goes again. I defy anyone (metaphorically speaking) to tell me that Elvis Presley's Kentucky Rain is'nt soulful. See htt://susie1114.com/KentuckyRainElvisP.html Can anyone post up the song for the purpose of my point please? Always thought that a tune by 'none soul' artistes that was made for the scene cos it would be a good dancer would be Talk To Me by Southside Johnny & The Astbury Dukes. Anyone able to post that up? Agree with Mikey about First Of A Million Kisses by Fairground Attraction. Superb tune. But these being Soul Records is all up for debate I suppose. KTF. Drew.
Billy Freemantle Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 It Was a Very Good Year - frank sinatra - reprise 13995 refosoul Sebastian - Another Frank Sinatra track on Reprise that has a certain soulful quality. I'd go with this one, too. Kind of... Always makes me sit up and pay attention anyway.
Mike Lofthouse Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 (edited) Totally agree, my "Last Waltz" video is one of my most treaured possesion. Robbie Robertson one of my all time musical icons. QoFxx I think Robbie took a bit too much credit for the songwriting in 'The Band' - and he was the fourth best singer!!! Fantastic guitarist though . The triple lead vocals of Levon Helm, Richard Manual and Rick Danko is the most soulful ensemble I have heard!! Levon in is autobiography is less than flattering about Robertson - the swine tried to get Muddy Waters off the bill at the Last Waltz to make room for Neil Diamond! Mike Edited January 28, 2007 by Mike Lofthouse
Mike Lofthouse Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 Jeff Buckey - Hallelujah. Last time I can remember being stopped in my tracks by a song and his father Tim - singing 'Once I was' in session on John Peel. Mike
Jaco Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 I think Robbie took a bit too much credit for the songwriting in 'The Band' - and he was the fourth best singer!!! Fantastic guitarist though . The triple lead vocals of Levon Helm, Richard Manual and Rick Danko is the most soulful ensemble I have heard!! Levon in is autobiography is less than flattering about Robertson - the swine tried to get Muddy Waters off the bill at the Last Waltz to make room for Neil Diamond! Mike Definitely behind, Helm, Manual and Danko in the singing class - interesting about the writing credits, though. It's mostly Robertson on the tracks and its difficult to imagine that the other band members, who were so multi talented didn't contribute to the songwriting. Undoubtedly one of the most influential groups in history.
Guest Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 (edited) my biggest mistake - maxine brown - chart promo 14025 refosoul Im Not A Great Fan Of BB But Maxine Brown Could Sing The Ace Of Spades And It Would Be SoulfulBecause Shes Got It --------------------David JakemanNot Out 104 58 Balls Try this. Edited January 28, 2007 by ken
Guest Leigh J Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 my biggest mistake - maxine brown - chart promo 14025 refosoul Im Not A Great Fan Of BB But Maxine Brown Could Sing The Ace Of Spades And It Would Be SoulfulBecause Shes Got It --------------------David JakemanNot Out 104 58 Balls Try this. What The Hell Was That ? Maxine brown On Helium
Guest Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 What The Hell Was That ? Maxine brown On Helium No its on Chart records,outa`nashville...........unless they`re ar two Maxine`s,t`other side is worser
Guest Bogue Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 That richard Hawley Album Is Great Isnt It , Born Under a Bad Sign Is my Fave , Back To The Topic Anything By The Carpenters ..............My Mum Always Had Them On When I Was A Kid And As I Havnt Seen Her For Years When I Hear Especially 'Weve Only Just Begun ' The Hairs On The Back Of My Neck Stand Up . Agree with the Carpenters I think Karen Carpenter had one of the sweetest voices, black or white, ever heard on this planet. U2 have always been a big favourite of mine alongside Soul music, I remember bumping into lots of old soulies when I went to see the 'Joshua Tree' tour at Cardiff Arms Park in the late 80's so perhaps some may have felt the soul in the music too ? I know Bono is not everyones favourite person, & they are easy to knock because of thier status, but there is a good degree of soul in the lyrics & delivery of thier music, basicaly Rock mixed with elements of Soul, Country & Blues, even Edge's guitar sound has a soulful angst about it (imho). Apart from the obvious songs like 'Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For', 'When Love Came To Town' & 'Two Hearts Beat As One' which even became a bit of a dance floor favourite in the nightclubs, they produced some very soulful feeling tunes, especially some album tracks. One of my favourite albums was the fairly recent 'All That You Can't Leave Behind' album, two tracks in particular i found had a soulful influence, the first 'Kite' was written by Bono for his children at the time of his father's death & i find the lyrics very poignant & soulful. The second 'When I look At The World' I can't put my finger on why, it just has a mellow soulful feel with similar angst filled lyrics. p.s. (Didn't use Refosoul as not NS)Kite.mp3When_I_Look_at_the_World.mp3
Steve Edgar Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 No its on Chart records,outa`nashville...........unless they`re ar two Maxine`s,t`other side is worser There are 2 maxine Browns I remember picking this up once blind.... it was er..... "My Biggest Mistake" :fool: steve
Jules Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 bono, u2, soulfull, dont make me laugh. neither is nothing compares to you by sinead oconnor before anyone mentions it!
chrissie Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 I think Robbie took a bit too much credit for the songwriting in 'The Band' - and he was the fourth best singer!!! Fantastic guitarist though . The triple lead vocals of Levon Helm, Richard Manual and Rick Danko is the most soulful ensemble I have heard!! Levon in is autobiography is less than flattering about Robertson - the swine tried to get Muddy Waters off the bill at the Last Waltz to make room for Neil Diamond! Mike He was the cutest though, must be a girlie thing QoFxx
Guest ShaneH Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 agree with norman maine and pete-s. richard hawley - sheffields finest! love 'the ocean' on his latest lp took the other half to the spot where the photo from one of his earlier album covers was took yesterday - how sad jeff buckley - the 'grace' album is one of the all time greats shane
chrissie Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 agree with norman maine and pete-s. richard hawley - sheffields finest! love 'the ocean' on his latest lp took the other half to the spot where the photo from one of his earlier album covers was took yesterday - how sad jeff buckley - the 'grace' album is one of the all time greats shane I disagree John Riley is Sheffields finest IMHO If you don't believe me listen to the link I posted earlier Taxi for chrissieo QoFxxxxx
Godzilla Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 agree with norman maine and pete-s. richard hawley - sheffields finest! love 'the ocean' on his latest lp took the other half to the spot where the photo from one of his earlier album covers was took yesterday - how sad shane Do you mean Coles Corner Shane? The actual cover shot was of the Stephen Joseph Theatre in Scarborough aka Alan Ayckbourn's gaff. I believe it was the closest thing to the original Coles Corner which was demolished some time ago. The STJ was originally an Odeon Cinema and as the photos show is in the classic art deco picture house style. Godz
Guest Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 Do you mean Coles Corner Shane? The actual cover shot was of the Stephen Joseph Theatre in Scarborough aka Alan Ayckbourn's gaff. I believe it was the closest thing to the original Coles Corner which was demolished some time ago. The STJ was originally an Odeon Cinema and as the photos show is in the classic art deco picture house style. Godz Theres one of them in york.
Guest Bogue Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 Theres one of them in york. There's one in Worcester too Ken, contains the last intact work of Art Deco designer John Alexander. Trouble is, thanks to all the nimby's & the geriatric counsil around here it's now a furniture store ! It had some good bands on in it's time, remember Oasis playing there early in thier career.
Guest Bogue Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 (edited) bono, u2, soulfull, dont make me laugh. neither is nothing compares to you by sinead oconnor before anyone mentions it! Care to enlarge a bit & tell us all why in your opinion Jules ? That's what we like to do on here, have a discussion. Edited January 28, 2007 by Bogue
Godzilla Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 Theres one of them in york. That's right Ken. On Blossom Street. I think it closed down recently. Maybe Top Cat, Trevski or one of the other Yorkies on here can tell us more. When the Stephen Joseph Theatre moved from its home in Westwood to the abandoned Odeon building there was uproar in the town about the amount of funding the council provided while closing some public toilets. It became known as the battle of the Luvvies and the Lavvies . I'm really pleased the theatre supporters stuck to their guns. It's a magnificent building and the STJ contributes hugely to the town's profile in terms of tourism and culture. A triumph over local press led short sightedness. Godz
Guest deketh Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 I was flicking through a few tracks on my I-Pod last night and came to the conclusion that there are - in my own collection and i'm sure in the collections of many other people on here - very 'soulful' ( for that read emotional, laden with pathos, tragic, heartfelt, deep, heartbreaking yet ultimately uplifting) records that aren't actually soul. Here's 5 things plucked off my I-Pod. I think each of them is - in its own way 'soulful'; BB King - Chains and Things Miles Davis - Lift to the Scaffold ( or whatever the translation is for that album) Nick Drake - Pink Moon Johnny Cash - Sun Sessions Alton Ellis - Rocksteady I think what I am getting at is this. Soul is not the only emotional music out there, but it's probably the finest example of a genre that's dedicated to getting to the nub of matters, and all things of the soul and the heart. However, all of the above touch on the raw emotional nerves that the best soul music also occupies and by doing so occupy a place in my affections normally restricted for soul. Opinions? Hammy yes hammy any good record has to have a soul , but i don`t think it has have a vocal on it i`ve got some proper emotional moving instruMENTAL 12". but i do think all the great artists and bands are influenced by the sound of black america and also a little island in the carrebeannnnnn. (THE CLASH and PRIMAL SCREAM to name two). also there are a lot of soul records that aren`t soulful. all da best - kevin "J" etheridge
Guest deketh Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 I was flicking through a few tracks on my I-Pod last night and came to the conclusion that there are - in my own collection and i'm sure in the collections of many other people on here - very 'soulful' ( for that read emotional, laden with pathos, tragic, heartfelt, deep, heartbreaking yet ultimately uplifting) records that aren't actually soul. Here's 5 things plucked off my I-Pod. I think each of them is - in its own way 'soulful'; BB King - Chains and Things Miles Davis - Lift to the Scaffold ( or whatever the translation is for that album) Nick Drake - Pink Moon Johnny Cash - Sun Sessions Alton Ellis - Rocksteady I think what I am getting at is this. Soul is not the only emotional music out there, but it's probably the finest example of a genre that's dedicated to getting to the nub of matters, and all things of the soul and the heart. However, all of the above touch on the raw emotional nerves that the best soul music also occupies and by doing so occupy a place in my affections normally restricted for soul. Opinions? Hammy yes hammy any good record has to have a soul , but i don`t think it has have a vocal on it i`ve got some proper emotional moving instruMENTAL 12". but i do think all the great artists and bands are influenced by the sound of black america and also a little island in the carrebeannnnnn. (THE CLASH and PRIMAL SCREAM to name two). also there are a lot of soul records that aren`t soulful. all da best - kevin "J" etheridge
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