Jerry Williams

[Theothertosspot]

Apart from the obvious, what are the differences between these two releases?

Both are “bell Sound” stamped, one has an H in runout, the other has an A (or V) in runout.

I do appreciate they are legit? reissues but can’t figure out different label layouts.

Any thoughts?

[Mick Reed]

If you look at john manship site he does say there is 2 label types both saying 1973.

[Chalky]

Two different pressing plants I would guess, H is RCA's Hollywood plant.

[Winsford Soul]

I remember having a 1973 one sided demo. , anyone know anything about it  

Forgot to mention that I got the record as a 50th birthday present of  mates.  Festa n Jan so definitely exists . Never seen another one,  

Edited December 26, 2020 by Winsford Soul

[Blackpoolsoul]

21 hours ago, Mick Reed said:

If you look at john manship site he does say there is 2 label types both saying 1973.

The plot thickens here saying 1966 for 116 and 1973 for C-116 unless I have had too many sherries

https://www.45cat.com/record/nc300707us

https://www.45cat.com/record/nc135439us

Edited December 26, 2020 by Blackpoolsoul

[Dave Pinch]

31 minutes ago, Blackpoolsoul said:

The plot thickens here saying 1966 for 116 and 1973 for C-116 unless I have had too many sherries

https://www.45cat.com/record/nc300707us

https://www.45cat.com/record/nc135439us

one entry is for the 1966 orig and the other is for the 1973 reissue.. reissue says the year of release on it

[Julianb]

To risk the wrath of 'Modernsoulsucks' the best way to own this is on a 1966 demo copy

[Modernsoulsucks]

I think you've misinterpreted my previous comments.

I am right behind you in your collecting endeavours where you seem to have managed to accrue the right artists on the wrong formats or the wrong artists on the right formats.

And I couldn't agree with you more that the only way to own this particular 45 is a 1966 demo copy but unfortunately for you that is of course on Ric-Tic 113.

 

Edited December 27, 2020 by Modernsoulsucks

[Carty]

John Manship has a recent youtube video entitled " Selectadisc 1970s Northern Soul Time Capsule PT- 2 " In which he goes through a box of 45s he has  bought . At 22.10  on the clip , he pulls out a 1973 Jerry Williams and says that this was a re recording .  i know the out of the past release is slightly shorter , the first part of the instrumental break having been cut out of this copy , but i am still not sure that the   1973 calla re issue is a re recording . Sure I also had a Blue and White one sided Calla Demo  at one point .

[Julianb]

1 hour ago, Modernsoulsucks said:

I think you've misinterpreted my previous comments.

I am right behind you in your collecting endeavours where you seem to have managed to accrue the right artists on the wrong formats or the wrong artists on the right formats.

And I couldn't agree with you more that the only way to own this particular 45 is a 1966 demo copy but unfortunately for you that is of course on Ric-Tic 113.

 

Hi Rod, just having a bit of banter. Hope you and Clare are both well. Cheers Julian

[Modernsoulsucks]

9 minutes ago, Julianb said:

Hi Rod, just having a bit of banter. Hope you and Clare are both well. Cheers Julian

I know.

HNY to you both

[Winsford Soul]

1 hour ago, Carty said:

 Sure I also had a Blue and White one sided Calla Demo  at one point .

The one sided demo i had of.  If you ask  me was a Red and White label.

 I'm glad that you have mentioned having one

Cheers 

[Theothertosspot]

I have a real one with proper stamps in matrix, I got other two recently and noticed difference. Not too sure but one label has to be incorrect!!!!

[Andy Rix]

I did a compare & contrast between the original 66 vs 73 releases many years ago and my memory is they are the same studio session but 73 is 'remixed' ... I sort of asked Jerry about it and he just said "they messed about with it a bit to make it sound more fresh"

I might need to listen again just to be sure my memory isn't playing tricks on me

Andy

 

Edited December 27, 2020 by Andy Rix

[Dave Pinch]

10 hours ago, Andy Rix said:

I did a compare & contrast between the original 66 vs 73 releases many years ago and my memory is they are the same studio session but 73 is 'remixed' ... I sort of asked Jerry about it and he just said "they messed about with it a bit to make it sound more fresh"

I might need to listen again just to be sure my memory isn't playing tricks on me

Andy

 

might have tried to stereo enhance it a bit andy

[Chris L]

The 1973 is a legit re-release with a different instrumental break in middle.

[Kev John]

The Calla release with 1973 @ 6 o'clock is the 1st re-issue 

[Theothertosspot]

This buyer must now be disappointed I bet. Crazy isn’t it

Regards

 

[Theothertosspot]

7 hours ago, Kev John said:

The Calla release with 1973 @ 6 o'clock is the 1st re-issue 

That’s the one with a “V” @ 14 mins past and an “I” at 25 mins past. Other one has an “H” (RCA plant was msg earlier)

Regards