JMAuction - 04/11/2020 - Results

[Zanetti]

fyi

*1st Click On The Attached .png To Enlarge!

*Click Once More

*It Will Start In A New Tab

*Click Again To Enlarge

--- --- --- --- ---

*To Download - Right Click On The .png - Save Image As

[Zanetti]

Vibrations - 363£

Guitar Ray - 1034£

Sophisticates - 365£

Bunny Sigler - 212£

 

[Zanetti]

Skip Jackson - 843£

i love this rare black and white demo by mr. sigler.
But at some point I was out ... 

[Frankie Crocker]

Some plain auction items on this Set Sale list. A few more peak figures maintaining the exponential trend for classic collectables. Thanks for posting as usual.

[Dobber]

Skip Jackson,Jimmy s Clark and lee roye,what a fucking joke! I’m beginning to think that some of the biggest suckers in the world are on the northern scene! Jesus wept!

[Winsford Soul]

8 minutes ago, Dobber said:

Skip Jackson,Jimmy s Clark and lee roye,what a fucking joke! I’m beginning to think that some of the biggest suckers in the world are on the northern scene! Jesus wept!

Thanks for posting as always.  

Totally agree.  No wonders that  people auction records when there's dick heads out there that pay these prices.

Guitar Ray was in my humble opinion the only auction record on that list. All the rest are set sale pieces.  But hey what do I know.  

Edited November 4, 2020 by Winsford Soul

[Tomangoes]

Sweet Darling...paid a fiver for the issue and later on a tenner for the wd.

Sold em for not much more.

I made some daft mistakes 35 years ago:)

Ed

[Lionelonthevinyl]

Jimmy S clark.....bloody hell!!!! I don't profess to being an expert on record prices, but that's really expensive....agreed....guitar ray, absolute quality record....kind regards....Rob

 

 

 

 

[Dylan]

The idols is great don’t remember ever hearing that in a club.

[Solidsoul]

28 minutes ago, Lionelonthevinyl said:

 ...guitar ray, absolute quality record....kind regards....Rob

 

 

 

 

I bought my copy of Guitar Ray from Manship for £3

Yes it was a long time ago!

Edited November 4, 2020 by Halogen

[Chalky]

5 minutes ago, Dylan said:

The idols is great don’t remember ever hearing that in a club.

Old Gary Spencer play

[Dylan]

Just now, Chalky said:

Old Gary Spencer play

Just listened to it a few more times it’s a fantastic all nighter record.

 

 

[Solidsoul]

14 hours ago, Dobber said:

Skip Jackson,Jimmy s Clark and lee roye,what a fucking joke! I’m beginning to think that some of the biggest suckers in the world are on the northern scene! Jesus wept!

I thought one of the rules of this forum is not using bad language!

[Marktsoulman]

Skip Jackson £473.... really... I bought this twice many years back (90's) for less than £20 so not rare, the dealer in question had dozens he told me. I sold one on here for around £100 15 years ago, sent in good faith and was never paid..... I got sent a book instead! Glad I am not buying now apart from new release..... M

[Dylan]

2 hours ago, Marktsoulman said:

Skip Jackson £473.... really... I bought this twice many years back (90's) for less than £20 so not rare, the dealer in question had dozens he told me. I sold one on here for around £100 15 years ago, sent in good faith and was never paid..... I got sent a book instead! Glad I am not buying now apart from new release..... M

Same could be said for so many records vibrations on that auction list being another.

 

great oldie but a daft price.

 

and as already been said sweet darlin how is that so much.

 

I’ll be your champion I was found much harder to come across.  Even that is probably not that hard to find.

Edited November 5, 2020 by Dylan

[Dobber]

I would say 90% of records on any of the auctions aren’t rare or even that desirable! Some 45s that appear on auctions sit on set sales for ages until the inevitable price drop!

[Simon T]

A newly list item is a Grovesville acetate > Eddie Holiday & Joey Kingfish - I Won't Hurt You Anymore. The label scans suggests the other side,  which is blank, would be a track called "come on back"  what song might that be, JJ Barnes?

[Dylan]

1 hour ago, Simon T said:

A newly list item is a Grovesville acetate > Eddie Holiday & Joey Kingfish - I Won't Hurt You Anymore. The label scans suggests the other side,  which is blank, would be a track called "come on back"  what song might that be, JJ Barnes?

Thats a nice tune.

 

on the same page is mac staten "there she goes" john has it as a 1963 release in the description.  Is that right it sounds later ?

[Soul Shaw]

I thought the sophisticates was dirt cheap, quality record that you never see for sale, I definitely wouldn’t let my copy go that cheap, give it a spin and listen to a special record

Edited November 8, 2020 by Soul Shaw

[Len]

On 05/11/2020 at 09:03, Halogen said:

I thought one of the rules of this forum is not using bad language!

It is. 

So a quick reminder - Please keep out the swearing guys.  Maybe putting a '*' in place of some letters if on the rare occasion you feel that strongly, that you feel the need to swear (Best not to really though)

Thanks.

Len.

[Dave Pinch]

7 hours ago, Dylan said:

Thats a nice tune.

 

on the same page is mac staten "there she goes" john has it as a 1963 release in the description.  Is that right it sounds later ?

most definitely not 1963

[Dylan]

3 hours ago, Dave Pinch said:

most definitely not 1963

Yes that was my initial thought but didnt want to appear rude.

[Solidsoul]

4 hours ago, Dylan said:

Yes that was my initial thought but didnt want to appear rude.

He is usually very knowledgeable, but does not get it right everytime!

Edited November 9, 2020 by Halogen

[John Hart]

Indeed he does not get it right every time ! In his latest auction ,he refers twice to the bside of Jesse Johnson,s " Left Out " being " 100 pounds of Pain" { A totally different tune by Lenny Welch on Mainstream. }

What Professor Johnny really  meant was " 100 Pounds of Clay" ! In tandem with our eyesight and sex drive memory fails with advancing years ! Still he is a Great read .

[Dylan]

15 minutes ago, John Hart said:

Indeed he does not get it right every time ! In his latest auction ,he refers twice to the bside of Jesse Johnson,s " Left Out " being " 100 pounds of Pain" { A totally different tune by Lenny Welch on Mainstream. }

What Professor Johnny really  meant was " 100 Pounds of Clay" ! In tandem with our eyesight and sex drive memory fails with advancing years ! Still he is a Great read .

Yes they are auction notes with the intention of talking up the records as much as possible so should be taken with a pitch of salt. 
 

I think a lot of people find them a bit OTT now though. 

[Modernsoulsucks]

1 hour ago, Halogen said:

He is usually very knowledgeable, but does not get it right everytime!

My wife should run it - she's right every time.

[Len]

5 hours ago, Dylan said:

Yes they are auction notes with the intention of talking up the records as much as possible so should be taken with a pitch of salt. 
 

I think a lot of people find them a bit OTT now though. 

I like reading the 'blurb'. I also used to enjoy Rudzi's of 'Boogaloo Records' (Leicester)

N.B - (To all) Ref swearing. Just so aware - Doing so can damage the site / may affect its classification by search engines etc, too much may cause it to be classed as an 'adult site'

Google adverts doesn't like it, now and again do get some pages flagged up as possible 'sexual content' and need to put in an appeal.

Plus workplace filters may pick it up and put a block on it.

Len 

[The Yank]

14 hours ago, Dave Pinch said:

most definitely not 1963

  That same info (1963 release) is also on Discogs. 

[Dave Pinch]

16 minutes ago, The Yank said:

  That same info (1963 release) is also on Discogs. 

so does 45 cat. but it just doesnt sound like a 1963 recording at all

the numbering system is all over the place..label designs differ. and i think what confuses people is the fact that j j jackson.  a reissue of the storm 45 was issued as within months almost like a national label but thats not correct..its a few years later i`m certain of it

Edited November 9, 2020 by Dave Pinch

[Tomangoes]

Just saying....

Ed

 

 

[Dave Pinch]

3 minutes ago, Tomangoes said:

Just saying....

Ed

 

 

ive just played both sides of the nomads intrumentals and confess they could be from around 1964 altho one reviewer mentions they sound like early psychedelic numbers..not sure what they are listening to there. there she goes no matter how many times i listen to it does`nt sound like anything i ever heard before from 1963..  but be aware before copying and pasting info from the net possibly done by a band member who cant remember what he had for tea yesterday

[Dylan]

1 hour ago, The Yank said:

  That same info (1963 release) is also on Discogs. 

Yes I saw that but to my ears that is never a 63 sound.

[Dylan]

It’s nice to get the discussion going maybe we will get a definitive answer ?

 

as time goes on establishing the true facts about these records will only get harder and harder.

[Tomangoes]

Well....either James Brown copied this....or the other way round, and certainly if it was 63, it wasnt the other way round..

Ed

 

Edited November 9, 2020 by Tomangoes
Spello

[Dave Pinch]

listen to the mcgees  so tired  on the same label.. is someone really gonna tell me thats from 1963 also

 

[Dave Pinch]

3 minutes ago, Tomangoes said:

Well....either James Brown copied this....or the other way round, and certainly if it was 63, it wasnt the other way round..

Ed

 

could be an earlier recording used as a throwaway flipside.. a regular occurrance in those days to cut costs. 

[Dave Pinch]

9 minutes ago, Tomangoes said:

Well....either James Brown copied this....or the other way round, and certainly if it was 63, it wasnt the other way round..

Ed

 

well he`s actually copying papas got a brand new bag in there as well as please please please so youre answering all the questions posed  and thats summer 1965

 

[Tomangoes]

I agree.

Its a good copy of the James Browns sound....but would need to be 66 really to do it justice.

Ed

[Dave Pinch]

17 minutes ago, Tomangoes said:

I agree.

Its a good copy of the James Browns sound....but would need to be 66 really to do it justice.

Ed

and thats exactly when i think these prelude 45s on that design were released 65/early 66.. the sound is there sure as i`m sitting here typing with the exception of j. j. jackson from the storm label..and the surf instrumental by the duvals which kinda copies the shadows lol..think theres 5 releases that tie to that period.. the earlier prelude releases  rhonda fleming, rev charles watkins, phillips sisters are most definitely very early 60s if indeed both labels  are indeed related

Edited November 9, 2020 by Dave Pinch

[Dylan]

There would have been a lot of artists trying to capture that James brown sound and that dates the Mac staten flip  far more accurately IMO.

 

mcgees is also very good.

Edited November 9, 2020 by Dylan

[The Yank]

32 minutes ago, Dave Pinch said:

and thats exactly when i think these prelude 45s on that design were released 65/early 66.. the sound is there sure as i`m sitting here typing with the exception of j. j. jackson from the storm label..and the surf instrumental by the duvals which kinda copies the shadows lol..

The Duvals is definitely 1963. It's 10 /10 on this survey- 

 

[Dave Pinch]

15 minutes ago, The Yank said:

The Duvals is definitely 1963. It's 10 /10 on this survey- 

 

yes i suspected it was around that time as that does sound from that time period. very popular in pittsburg apparantly and sounds a little like apache by the shadows in the uk that was covered by jorge ingmann and a big usa hit for him in 1961. same production set up but different colouring and numbering system from the four later preludes and possibly where all the confusions comes from as its obvious by listening to the other releases that they are later than this release

Edited November 9, 2020 by Dave Pinch

[Dylan]

11 minutes ago, The Yank said:

The Duvals is definitely 1963. It's 10 /10 on this survey- 

 

How do you find these old magazine extracts ?

[Dave Pinch]

1 minute ago, Dylan said:

How do you find these old magazine extracts ?

anthing possible with google

 

[Dylan]

12 minutes ago, Dave Pinch said:

anthing possible with google

 

I did just try to find that extract as a test but failed.

[Dave Pinch]

31 minutes ago, Dylan said:

I did just try to find that extract as a test but failed.

must try harder 

[Chalky]

14 hours ago, Dave Pinch said:

ive just played both sides of the nomads intrumentals and confess they could be from around 1964 altho one reviewer mentions they sound like early psychedelic numbers..not sure what they are listening to there. there she goes no matter how many times i listen to it does`nt sound like anything i ever heard before from 1963..  but be aware before copying and pasting info from the net possibly done by a band member who cant remember what he had for tea yesterday

I would say it is more like ‘65 than ‘63 despite what biographies etc say. 

[Blackpoolsoul]

16 hours ago, Tomangoes said:

Well....either James Brown copied this....or the other way round, and certainly if it was 63, it wasnt the other way round..

Ed

 

https://www.facebook.com/SanDiegoNuggets/posts/happy-winter-the-nomads-were-a-popular-san-diego-band-in-the-late-1950s-and-earl/904202816333480/

[Tomangoes]

Here we go again...

Looks like they are on Facebook if anybody knows how to contact the band..

This extract seems to support early 60s for the recording output.

The folded in 67.

Ed

 

[Dave Pinch]

early 60s could be construde as 1965  tho..  do the freeze 100% leaning on papas got a brand new bag and most certainly not other way round. defo late 65 or even early 1966.