kevinsoulman Posted January 20, 2007 Posted January 20, 2007 can any one tell me if it ever charted thanks kev
ExYoungSoulie Posted January 20, 2007 Posted January 20, 2007 T'interweb search suggests it reached number 10 in 1969... I think this is in the States... not sure about on the blessed plot
Guest mel brat Posted January 21, 2007 Posted January 21, 2007 can any one tell me if it ever charted thanks kev Not as far as I know.
Guest Leigh J Posted January 21, 2007 Posted January 21, 2007 Not as far as I know. It Did For JB's All Stars .
Guest TONY ROUNCE Posted January 21, 2007 Posted January 21, 2007 (edited) It wasn't a hit in the UK - possibly because it took so long to come out here (I think that the US label wanted more for it than most major UK labels wanted to pay) and it had already had the best part of its US chart run when the small Concord label issued it eventually. The cover version by Anthony Swete on UK RCA beat it onto the market by at least a month, too... I also think that its chances of UK success were hampered by the fact that, back in 1969, not too many Brits either knew or understood what a 'Backfield' was or why it would be "In Motion", never mind about "Offside And Holding"... TONE Edited January 21, 2007 by TONY ROUNCE
Sunnysoul Posted January 21, 2007 Posted January 21, 2007 It wasn't a hit in the UK - possibly because it took so long to come out here (I think that the US label wanted more for it than most major UK labels wanted to pay) and it had already had the best part of its US chart run when the small Concord label issued it eventually. The cover version by Anthony Swete on UK RCA beat it onto the market by at least a month, too... I also think that it's chances of UK success were hamepered by the fact that, back in 1969, not too many Brits either knew or understood what a 'Backfield' was or why it would be "In Motion", never mind about "Offside And Holding"... TONE That's right , not a UK chart hit , but , without digging out my old Blues and Soul's from '69/70 , I seem to remember off the top of my head that it was prominently listed in the B & S's charts of popular sounds at the time and I suspect it was a popular dance floor sound with the UK soul faithful at the Wheel etc ? Did they appear in the UK at the Wheel ? Or was it a few years later on the back of "Starting All Over Again" ?
Guest mel brat Posted January 21, 2007 Posted January 21, 2007 (edited) That's right , not a UK chart hit , but , without digging out my old Blues and Soul's from '69/70 , I seem to remember off the top of my head that it was prominently listed in the B & S's charts of popular sounds at the time and I suspect it was a popular dance floor sound with the UK soul faithful at the Wheel etc ? Did they appear in the UK at the Wheel ? Or was it a few years later on the back of "Starting All Over Again" ? No. The Wheel had closed by the time "Starting All Over..." came out in 1973. "Backfield..." was reissued in 1971 (on multi-coloured Concord label). I saw them at The Lafayette in Wolverhampton where they performed their version of "Free For All" etc. and during the slow bits, encouraged the sparse and mixed audience to "chill out, sit on the floor and have a smoke..." (nobody seemed to know what the hell they were talking about!) They also appeared at the infamous Leeds Queens Hall allnighter in 1974. Edited January 21, 2007 by mel brat
Sharon Cooper Posted January 21, 2007 Posted January 21, 2007 can any one tell me if it ever charted thanks kev Don't know about charting but I remember owning a copy ;early 70's after hearing it at my local soul 'do' and really listening closely to the words to try and figure it out!! Sharon
Monique Posted January 21, 2007 Posted January 21, 2007 Don't know about charting but I remember owning a copy ;early 70's after hearing it at my local soul 'do' and really listening closely to the words to try and figure it out!! Sharon Still got mine!!! Yellow Concord label and says ' Made in England ' on it but it hasn't got the date on.
Guest Jimmy Scriv Posted January 21, 2007 Posted January 21, 2007 I collect Soul/Motown sheet music and have got a copy of this on a British printing. A bit of a strange one as I can't think of many musicians who would want to buy this, can't have sold many. The lyrics, even when you have got them in front of you are bizarre to say the least.
Funky Si Posted January 21, 2007 Posted January 21, 2007 I'm sure it used to be played on Radio 1 as that was the only place I ever heard music at that time & I know the song - I thought it was re-released in the 70's as well & got onto Top of the Pops (I would like to think I can remember Pans People dressed as American Footballers, but that's probably just fantasy on my part).
Guest Netspeaky Posted January 21, 2007 Posted January 21, 2007 May not have been a chart hit, but it certainly was a club hit on it's release, and I'm talking club being your local pop disco.
Guest mel brat Posted January 21, 2007 Posted January 21, 2007 I'm sure it used to be played on Radio 1... Yes, it probably WAS played on Radio One - several years after the initial release and too damned late to do them any good! However, Emperor Rosco played some Soul (oldies) and Reggae. On Saturdays I think. Also of course Mike Raven's R&B Show didn't end until about 1971, so he probably gave it a spin or two. I well remember hearing him play Bobbi Lynn's - "Earthquake" when it was re-issued.
GordonS Posted January 22, 2007 Posted January 22, 2007 I'm quite amazed that it didn't chart in the UK. It was massive at the places I went when I was 14 in 69. I would have expected it to chart at least in the lower reaches but consulting Guiness, no it didn't. I suspect it sold enough but not through chart return shops. Gordon
Paul McKay Posted January 22, 2007 Posted January 22, 2007 It was released at least 4 times in the UK - all on Concord. Yellow, pink, grey/orange/white and fried egg labels. US Billboard R&B chart details: 18/10/1969 #3 14 weeks #10 Pop.
paultp Posted January 22, 2007 Posted January 22, 2007 Which reminded me of when I was doing some consulting work for Bruno Brookes's company and we got talking about records. He mentioned that he had some Motown LPs which got me interested and then he said "I've always wanted a copy of Backfield in motion on 45", So to try and get a look at the Motown LPs I got him one; mint on US Bamboo, when I give it to him he says "Oh! I actually wanted a UK issue" Picky or what?
chrissie Posted January 22, 2007 Posted January 22, 2007 can any one tell me if it ever charted thanks kev It never charted in the UK QoFxx
Pete S Posted January 22, 2007 Posted January 22, 2007 It wasn't a hit in the UK - possibly because it took so long to come out here (I think that the US label wanted more for it than most major UK labels wanted to pay) and it had already had the best part of its US chart run when the small Concord label issued it eventually. The cover version by Anthony Swete on UK RCA beat it onto the market by at least a month, too... I also think that its chances of UK success were hampered by the fact that, back in 1969, not too many Brits either knew or understood what a 'Backfield' was or why it would be "In Motion", never mind about "Offside And Holding"... TONE I remember hearing this at the time and thinking it was called - I know this sounds ridiculous but I was only 9 - "black feeling in motion"
Billy Freemantle Posted January 22, 2007 Posted January 22, 2007 It was a regular Wheel play circa 1969 or 1970. Never knew what 'Backfield in Motion' was all about and still don't but the 'You knows it's against the rules' line made it pretty clear that it was some kind of 'cheating' song. On the whole it was one of those nice, melodic easy- on- the nerves songs that cushioned an impending come-down at for 3 or 4 in the morning. I remember it being played in close proximity to other gentle easy listening tunes such as 'Call on Me' and 'I Dig your Act'.
Bazza Posted January 22, 2007 Posted January 22, 2007 It was a regular Wheel play circa 1969 or 1970. Never knew what 'Backfield in Motion' was all about and still don't but the 'You knows it's against the rules' line made it pretty clear that it was some kind of 'cheating' song. On the whole it was one of those nice, melodic easy- on- the nerves songs that cushioned an impending come-down at for 3 or 4 in the morning. I remember it being played in close proximity to other gentle easy listening tunes such as 'Call on Me' and 'I Dig your Act'. One of my all time faves,still get a shiver when its played out,rarely hear it now tho Bazza
Guest Jimmy Scriv Posted January 22, 2007 Posted January 22, 2007 Backfield in Motion is an illegal move in American Football i.e. the secondary (backfield) has moved before the ball was snapped to the quarterback, thus cheating, I think. Perhaps we could get a UK version made with references to football. Like you are not ten yards or passive play or you cheating diving Johnny Foreigner!
Guest Posted January 22, 2007 Posted January 22, 2007 No. The Wheel had closed by the time "Starting All Over..." came out in 1973. "Backfield..." was reissued in 1971 (on multi-coloured Concord label). I saw them at The Lafayette in Wolverhampton where they performed their version of "Free For All" etc. and during the slow bits, encouraged the sparse and mixed audience to "chill out, sit on the floor and have a smoke..." (nobody seemed to know what the hell they were talking about!) They also appeared at the infamous Leeds Queens Hall allnighter in 1974. Ah ...... The Queens Hall All - Nighter . The Dunkirk of the amphet generation ..... what a shambles . What ever happened to The Hearts Of Soul ? Malc Burton
Ady Croasdell Posted January 22, 2007 Posted January 22, 2007 I remember hearing this at the time and thinking it was called - I know this sounds ridiculous but I was only 9 - "black feeling in motion" I actually went into Ainley's record shop in Leicester and asked for 'Heart Felt Emotion' and the girl knew what i was talking about.
Guest Dirk Tiggler Posted January 22, 2007 Posted January 22, 2007 Anyone remember the American Cop programme from the 80s 'Hill St. Blues'? I remember two of the policemen (Bobby & A.N.O?) playing a practical joke on another copper in the locker room and when he found out (in their company) they both started to sing 'Backfield in Motion, You ought to be ashamed of yourself, baby...' Don't you just love soul trivia?! Ade
Guest Posted January 22, 2007 Posted January 22, 2007 Anyone remember the American Cop programme from the 80s 'Hill St. Blues'? I remember two of the policemen (Bobby & A.N.O?) playing a practical joke on another copper in the locker room and when he found out (in their company) they both started to sing 'Backfield in Motion, You ought to be ashamed of yourself, baby...' Don't you just love soul trivia?! Ade The two policemen in question were Officer Robert " Bobby " Hill ( Michael Warren ) and Officer John " JD " Larue ( Keil Martin ) . Hey - Let's be careful out there .... Malc Burton
Guest mel brat Posted January 23, 2007 Posted January 23, 2007 Anyone remember the American Cop programme from the 80s 'Hill St. Blues'? I remember two of the policemen (Bobby & A.N.O?) playing a practical joke on another copper in the locker room and when he found out (in their company) they both started to sing 'Backfield in Motion, You ought to be ashamed of yourself, baby...' Don't you just love soul trivia?! Ade Naturally we love soul trivia! We wouldn't be on here otherwise!
Guest mel brat Posted January 23, 2007 Posted January 23, 2007 (edited) Ah ...... The Queens Hall All - Nighter . The Dunkirk of the amphet generation ..... what a shambles . What ever happened to The Hearts Of Soul ? Malc Burton Currently working in MacDonald's I should think! - Or maybe they changed their name to 'Creme Brulee'! (did you watch 'League of Gentlemen?) Edited January 23, 2007 by mel brat
Mike Posted January 23, 2007 Posted January 23, 2007 What ever happened to The Hearts Of Soul ? wasn't there a thread a fair while back about them being a dutch group or something, forget how it come up, think something to do with spooky and sue.... maybe ?
Guest Posted January 24, 2007 Posted January 24, 2007 (edited) wasn't there a thread a fair while back about them being a dutch group or something, forget how it come up, think something to do with spooky and sue.... maybe ? Hi Mike ..... Sorry , but no : The Hearts Of Soul were three black ladies . Spooky and Sue were Iwan " Spooky " Groeneveld , who fronted the Dutch group The Swinging Soul Machine in the late 1960s / early 1970s , whose biggest hit was " Spooky's Day Off " , which was a successful club sound in the UK in 1969 . IG later got together after TSSM with British female vocalist , Sue Chaloner , to form Spooky and Sue . " I've Got The Need " was one of several records the duo released together . The photograph below shows the Swing Soul Machine at the height of their success ; the attire the guy on the right is wearing is a little disturbing to say the least ...... Malc Burton Edited January 24, 2007 by Malc Burton
Guest mel brat Posted January 24, 2007 Posted January 24, 2007 the attire the guy on the right is wearing is a little disturbing to say the least ...... Malc Burton Wow! It IS Creme Brulee!!
Guest Posted January 24, 2007 Posted January 24, 2007 Wow! It IS Creme Brulee!! Drawers full of cassettes , anyone ? ........ Malc
Ezzie Brown Posted January 24, 2007 Posted January 24, 2007 No. The Wheel had closed by the time "Starting All Over..." came out in 1973. "Backfield..." was reissued in 1971 (on multi-coloured Concord label). I saw them at The Lafayette in Wolverhampton where they performed their version of "Free For All" etc. and during the slow bits, encouraged the sparse and mixed audience to "chill out, sit on the floor and have a smoke..." (nobody seemed to know what the hell they were talking about!) They also appeared at the infamous Leeds Queens Hall allnighter in 1974. went to that niter DISASTER!!!!!!!!!!! stoped going shortly after,dissallusioned with it ages 20!!! ezzie
Guest Posted January 24, 2007 Posted January 24, 2007 (edited) Hi Mike ..... Sorry , but no : The Hearts Of Soul were three black ladies . Spooky and Sue were Iwan " Spooky " Groeneveld , who fronted the Dutch group The Swinging Soul Machine in the late 1960s / early 1970s , whose biggest hit was " Spooky's Day Off " , which was a successful club sound in the UK in 1969 . IG later got together after TSSM with British female vocalist , Sue Chaloner , to form Spooky and Sue . " I've Got The Need " was one of several records the duo released together . The photograph on the earlier post ( and below ) shows the Swing Soul Machine at the height of their success - the small black guy enclosed in the arms of the guy with the 'fro is Spooky ; and the attire that the guy on the right is wearing is a little disturbing to say the least ...... The other photograph below is the sleeve of " I've Got The Need " , showing both Spooky and Sue Chaloner . Malc Edited January 24, 2007 by Malc Burton
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