Dorothy Berry - You Better Watch Out

[Richard]

Hi all

Was this repressed/lookalike bootlegged at all and does anyone have details of how to tell a real one please if it was?

Thanks in advance

Richard

Edited July 22, 2020 by Richard

[Chalky]

hasn't been booted to my knowledge.  Not to say there isn't a carver on Ebay as you can get any 45 done.  No quantity lookalike though to my knowledge.

Think the original is monarch press?

[Richard]

Thanks Chalky, I thought there wasn’t but was looking on popsike and there was a copy on there where it said it was a repro copy which prompted the question

[Richard]

Yes Monarch press and delta 54716 which puts the date as right - like I said it was that copy on popsike made me doubt 

[Chalky]

haven't seen the one on popsike, probably a carver 

[Sebastian]

If you want to avoid styrene and don't have anything against non-US releases: it was also issued in Denmark pressed on vinyl and sounding fabulous.

[Richard]

Thanks Sabastian but I have it on US copy already

[Russoul1]

i have it on south african dot and like the denmark press vinyl and great sound quality

great record btw should get more plays imo

 

[Richard]

Never ceases to amaze me where some of these tracks got issued, not meaning it in a funny way but what sort of market would there have been for a South African or Danish release? Must have only been couple of hundred copies sold at the time if that?

[Sebastian]

10 hours ago, Richard said:

Never ceases to amaze me where some of these tracks got issued, not meaning it in a funny way but what sort of market would there have been for a South African or Danish release? Must have only been couple of hundred copies sold at the time if that?

 

Yes, but a couple of hundred copies are still a couple of hundred copies.  Even chart hits of the time sold in the low thousands. Denmark had its own Dot division, releasing 100+ records, in the beginning mostly Pat Boone, Mills Brothers and US hits like Chantays "Pipeline" and Surfaris "Wipe Out", but also some interesting releases with picture sleeves like Arthur Alexander "You Better Move On" and chanced on stuff like Surf Bunnies, Carolyn Hester and Dorothy Berry. What was released was most likely just down to the taste of the people that worked at the label at the time. A variant of the old "throw everything at the wall and something will stick".

Most interesting Scandinavian Dot release must be the Norway 45 release of The Phantom "Love Me", extremely few known copies.

Edited July 24, 2020 by Sebastian

[Richard]

Thanks for the info Sebastian, just seem such weird markets to go for. Would have thought UK, France, Germany etc. would have been a better shot for the label to move more product for the same effort if you see what I mean.

[Chalky]

If Denmark had its own Dot Division I guess they couldn't pick and choose what to release, having to take the lesser known stuff along side the US big sellers.  

Couple of thousand sales might get you a hit in Denmark but I doubt that figure would have worried the charts in the UK in the 60s.

As for South Africa, lots of US releases saw a release there.

Edited July 24, 2020 by Chalky

[Ficklefingers]

1 hour ago, Chalky said:

If Denmark had its own Dot Division I guess they couldn't pick and choose what to release, having to take the lesser known stuff along side the US big sellers.  

Couple of thousand sales might get you a hit in Denmark but I doubt that figure would have worried the charts in the UK in the 60s.

As for South Africa, lots of US releases saw a release there.

Including said 45 in question - on Dot !!

I only found this out myself yesterday, in conversation with Russ Holley.. Who has a copy

Edited July 24, 2020 by Ficklefingers
additional info

[The Yank]

Here's a pic of the the South African release - 

 

[Chalky]

48 minutes ago, Ficklefingers said:

Including said 45 in question - on Dot !!

I only found this out myself yesterday, in conversation with Russ Holley.. Who has a copy

I have a Righteous Bros "Souled Out" Lp that is from a South African Radio Station.

[Richard]

One of the other interesting facts about YBWO is it was written by David Gates who found fame with Bread in the 70s

[Chalky]

33 minutes ago, Richard said:

One of the other interesting facts about YBWO is it was written by David Gates who found fame with Bread in the 70s

His name can be found a a fair few "northern" 45s, Matt brown one that sings to mind.

[The Yank]

He produced this one - 

 

Oops- wrong pic in last post -

 

[Russoul1]

2 hours ago, The Yank said:

Here's a pic of the the South African release -

 

is this your copy or a scan as it looks like mine lol

 

 

Edited July 24, 2020 by Russoul1

[The Yank]

58 minutes ago, Russoul1 said:

 

  I got that picture off the internet so chances are- it probably is your copy ! 

[Richard]

Found this review

"Ain't That Love" by Dorothy Berry is a superior, uptempo Northern soul dance floor filler, driven by guitar, harmonica and powerful drumming, female backing vocals supporting Dorothy as she forcefully expresses her undying affection for her man.

Cash Box reviewed the record favourably in its 5 December 1964 issue:-

Dot's new R&B subsid is underway with an infectious dance-romp. Besides the effective warble by the lark, there's fine percussion-guitar-harmonica work and a femme chorus. Can show speedy chart results.

Unfortunately, their prediction did not prove accurate, the record failing to chart.

[Merve]

Others of hers are sadly neglected ....

 

[Richard]

Was just looking and seems everything on Planetary was either written and/or produced by David Gates.

Edited July 24, 2020 by Richard