Imagine

[Chalky]

The following scenario.....

Promoters one and two promote a venue on the same night, one an all-nighter and the other a soul night.

Promoter one threatens to "bury" promoter two for having the audacity to promote on the same night. Promoter two is HIGHLY respected throughout the soul world and has been for many years :angry:

To muddy the waters a tad more, promoter one and promoter two both book the same highly respected DJ of many years standing. DJ says, wishing to upset no one and ensure everyone is happy,no problem, will do one and travel to the other after his set. Promoter one not happy threatens to finish said DJ :angry:

Personally I don't know what the scene is coming to, some promoters just not happy with what they have and want it all and will do what it takes to achieve this. IMHO there's no place for this kind of behaviour. Don''t know what fellow soul sourcerers thoughts are

Edited January 14, 2007 by chalky

[Pete S]

The following scenario.....

Promoters one and two promote a venue on the same night, one an all-nighter and the other a fairly specialised soul night.

Promoter one threatens to "bury" promoter two for having the audacity to promote on the same night. Promoter two is HIGHLY respected throughout the soul world and has been for many years :angry:

To muddy the waters a tad more, promoter one and promoter two both book the same highly respected DJ of many years standing. DJ says, wishing to upset no one and ensure everyone is happy,no problem, will do one and travel to the other after his set. Promoter one not happy threatens to finish said DJ :angry:

Personally I don't know what the scene is coming to, some promoters just not happy with what they have and want it all and will do what it takes to achieve this. IMHO there's no place for this kind of behaviour. Don''t know what fellow soul sourcerers thoughts are

Promoter one sounds like a right Charlie Big Potatoes if he thinks he can finish a dj's career and put another promoter out of business. What a shame we don't know who it is because he makes Kev Roberts seem like a pussycat.

[Guest Matt Male]

Don''t know what fellow soul sourcerers thoughts are

Name and shame i say.

[Guest dundeedavie]

isn't this becoming more widespread , rumours of venues being closed or cancelled etc seems pretty rife

[Little-stevie]

I and others would be interested to see who these people are..If these are facts then let us all know...Like i have always said " these people need to know that good folk will not stand for all the backstabbing bollocks..I like to know what kind of person i am dealing with and would stay well clear of these people..We should not let these people dictate to us,ever...

Edited January 14, 2007 by little-stevie

[Guest]

Are they geographically close to each other? What does the promoter have a problem with?

I'm glad I'm just a punter.

[Modernsoulsucks]

Not exactly a startling revelation Chalky. This kinda thing was going on back in 70's.

You could maybe be a bit more forthcoming and actually tell us what went on rather, than this hypothetical scenario.

Charles Washington & the Hypothetical Scenarios Copywright me for c/u purposes.

ROD

[Winnie :-)]

The following scenario.....

Promoters one and two promote a venue on the same night, one an all-nighter and the other a soul night.

Promoter one threatens to "bury" promoter two for having the audacity to promote on the same night. Promoter two is HIGHLY respected throughout the soul world and has been for many years :angry:

To muddy the waters a tad more, promoter one and promoter two both book the same highly respected DJ of many years standing. DJ says, wishing to upset no one and ensure everyone is happy,no problem, will do one and travel to the other after his set. Promoter one not happy threatens to finish said DJ :angry:

Personally I don't know what the scene is coming to, some promoters just not happy with what they have and want it all and will do what it takes to achieve this. IMHO there's no place for this kind of behaviour. Don''t know what fellow soul sourcerers thoughts are

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Chalks,

these stories always interest me, but they always seem to be soooooo hypothetical? Is promoter 1 so big that he/she can't be named and if the DJ is well known, would his/her career as a DJ really be threatened?

Cos you haven't named and shamed it would appear that promoter 1 really is that powerful??

Winnie:-)

[Guest Bearsy]

Is it about the money at the end of the day as i would rather go to a promotion where the real focus was on the music and not the power and profit.

NAME NAME NAME NAME NAME

[Jaco]

Chalky, having people associated with the scene with such attitudes is unhealthy and therefore, for the good of those that may be affected by such actions, promoter number one should be named and punters can then vote with their feet, if they feel inclined to do so.

The fact that this is not new shows how little we have progressed in this regard, as farr as venues are concrned,the scene is about the music and the inter action between the DJ's and the punters, not the over inflated egos of certain promoters."Publish the truth and damn the consequences!", if thats the qoute, such be the situation here.

[Jumpinjoan]

The following scenario.....

Promoters one and two promote a venue on the same night, one an all-nighter and the other a soul night.

Promoter one threatens to "bury" promoter two for having the audacity to promote on the same night. Promoter two is HIGHLY respected throughout the soul world and has been for many years :angry:

To muddy the waters a tad more, promoter one and promoter two both book the same highly respected DJ of many years standing. DJ says, wishing to upset no one and ensure everyone is happy,no problem, will do one and travel to the other after his set. Promoter one not happy threatens to finish said DJ :angry:

Personally I don't know what the scene is coming to, some promoters just not happy with what they have and want it all and will do what it takes to achieve this. IMHO there's no place for this kind of behaviour. Don''t know what fellow soul sourcerers thoughts are

If it's fact and not hear say Chalky... then why doesn't the said 'highly respected DJ of many years standing' just come on and name who it is.

Too much 'he said' and 'she said' on the scene.... no one can hide from the truth... so come on out and say it .. thats what i think anyway.

I have my thoughts as to who you are referring to... not from anything i've heard... just from looking in 'events'.

BUT i could be wrong... so i think it's only fair to promoters of other unconnected venues that the name of said promoter be known.. if only to stop rumour and wrong guessing.

[Guest]

I`d say fukc off to P1,do your worst........i mean how bad can it get,probberly why i have a lakc of bookin`s,but nobody owns me,i`m a free spirit,if that dont work,send him/her to see me,i`ll be out

Edited January 14, 2007 by ken

[Guest Polyvelts]

As a cash customer, one question. Will both promoters be playing records I can dance to ?

[Guest Bearsy]

As a cash customer, one question. Will both promoters be playing records I can dance to ?

You can dance !!!

[Guest kid mohair]

[Jumpinjoan]

[Guest Paul]

Hello Chalky,

Some dictators think they control "the scene" in certain areas (or all areas) of the country. It's an insecurity thing.

Just do what you believe is the right thing and don't let anyone push you around ...or I'll make sure that you never work in this town again!

Paul Mooney

[Sunnysoul]

Don''t know what fellow soul sourcerers thoughts are

[Mike]

just get it out in the open

had enough of this shite in 2006, felt like was living in a johnny vegas sit com at times

just throw the name up

if its wrong or misunderstanding then give them a chance to clear it up

if its true then all are aware

[KevH]

idiots!!!.playground and kids spring to mind,in fact, take it to the back of the bike sheds where we can all gather round shoutin.. FIGHT,FIGHT.

Not interested who PRO.1 is still sounds like a ,if it's all true.

Edited January 15, 2007 by KevH

[Supercorsa]

just get it out in the open

had enough of this shite in 2006, felt like was living in a johnny vegas sit com at times

just throw the name up

if its wrong or misunderstanding then give them a chance to clear it up

if its true then all are aware

Agree with you Mike. This sort of stuff just gets boring, all these posts about backstabbing, rumour spreading, saying other events are cancelled, etc.,

[Guest andrew bin]

can't help thinking of this track

[Guest Soultown andy]

This is obviously me soul sam and dave thorley,i didnt use the term Bury,i said with both us and the hundred club on the week before prestatyn he may get a spanking attendance wise.As for threatening soul sam [a resident dj for me for 3 yrs]ask him.If sam confirms any of these allegations i will cancel all my venues and leave the scene .

[Chalky]

can't help thinking of this track

you do listen to some shite funny thing is not even in the same city let alone town. I'm not gonna name anyone, I was just asking what others thought of the senario. Promoter one will hang himself eventually.

[Chalky]

idiots!!!.playground and kids spring to mind,in fact, take it to the back of the bike sheds where we can all gather round shoutin.. FIGHT,FIGHT.

Not interested who PRO.1 is still sounds like a ,if it's all true.

Edited January 15, 2007 by chalky

[Chalky]

[Guest andrew bin]

you do listen to some shite funny thing is not even in the same city let alone town. .

wash your mouth out the Sparks are fantastic

Edited January 15, 2007 by andrew bin

[Guest Soultown andy]

Sams lastwords to me at 6pm last nite were,my favourite 2 venues to dj at were lifeline and middleton,just a touch of the sour grapes going on.

[Pete S]

you do listen to some shite funny thing is not even in the same city let alone town. I'm not gonna name anyone, I was just asking what others thought of the senario. Promoter one will hang himself eventually.

everyone knows who you are talking about, you ought to put up or shut up otherwise it's pointless making the post.

[Chalky]

everyone knows who you are talking about, you ought to put up or shut up otherwise it's pointless making the post.

if you know there's no need to put up is there I posted the above before (or whilst McCabe was posting).

amd there's no sour grapes from here Andy.

Edited January 15, 2007 by chalky

[Guest]

And i thought you where propper Yorkshire,havin`second thoughts,come on Chalky lad,dont let em`scare ya`

[Billywhizz]

The following scenario.....

Promoters one and two promote a venue on the same night, one an all-nighter and the other a soul night.

Promoter one threatens to "bury" promoter two for having the audacity to promote on the same night. Promoter two is HIGHLY respected throughout the soul world and has been for many years :angry:

To muddy the waters a tad more, promoter one and promoter two both book the same highly respected DJ of many years standing. DJ says, wishing to upset no one and ensure everyone is happy,no problem, will do one and travel to the other after his set. Promoter one not happy threatens to finish said DJ :angry:

Personally I don't know what the scene is coming to, some promoters just not happy with what they have and want it all and will do what it takes to achieve this. IMHO there's no place for this kind of behaviour. Don''t know what fellow soul sourcerers thoughts are

Chalky(and)well get it off ur chest who r u talking about

[Guest]

Chalky(and)well get it off ur chest who r u talking about

Speak up Billy,cant hear u

[Billywhizz]

Speak up Billy,cant hear u

WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Chalky]

And i thought you where propper Yorkshire,havin`second thoughts,come on Chalky lad,dont let em`scare ya`

it's all been said Ken, nobody scaring me

[Cheltsoulnights]

just get it out in the open

had enough of this shite in 2006, felt like was living in a johnny vegas sit com at times

just throw the name up

if its wrong or misunderstanding then give them a chance to clear it up

if its true then all are aware

Might be an idea to mention when this hypothetical soul night finishes

in reference to the allnight event and if promoter one didnt want his resident dj to double up for that reason

and if promoter two then rang promoter one on the subject

Hypothetically of course i'm going to both

See you at both

Pedro

[Guest in town Mikey]

Might be an idea to mention when this hypothetical soul night finishes

in reference to the allnight event and if promoter one didnt want his resident dj to double up for that reason

and if promoter two then rang promoter one on the subject

Hypothetically of course i'm going to both

See you at both

Pedro

Well I would go to both, but nobody will tell me who they are, so by default I'm boycotting the piggin pair of 'em.

HAVE THAT

[Guest Soultown andy]

Turns out our hyperthetical story is utter bullshit,just got off the phone with a very bemused soul sam his message was see you in 2 weeks at middleton.From the messages ive received looks like most people see whats goin on,no more to be said.

[Dave Thorley]

Promotor 2 here.

Keep this simple, rang Sam gave him dates for Soul shakers @ Solihull. He said, that clashed with Middleton, I said fine we will have to do without you on this date. He said he could do an early set before Middleton, I said you sure, he said yes. So we agreed on 10-11pm. I have also rung Ady McCabe and promised him that we will get him out the door at 11, so that he has a good 3 hours to get there and not rush. We are really looking forward to Sam's set with us, as last time he did a blinder, pulling alot of things he doesn't always play elsewhere.

We are aware that many people going to Middleton are also looking forward to hearing Sam play, and feel we have a responsibilty to make sure he gets there in time and fresh to do a blinder there as well.

Dave

[Guest]

Promotor 2 here.

Keep this simple, rang Sam gave him dates for Soul shakers @ Solihull. He said, that clashed with Middleton, I said fine we will have to do without you on this date. He said he could do an early set before Middleton, I said you sure, he said yes. So we agreed on 10-11pm. I have also rung Ady McCabe and promised him that we will get him out the door at 11, so that he has a good 3 hours to get there and not rush. We are really looking forward to Sam's set with us, as last time he did a blinder, pulling alot of things he doesn't always play elsewhere.

We are aware that many people going to Middleton are also looking forward to hearing Sam play, and feel we have a responsibilty to make sure he gets there in time and fresh to do a blinder there as well.

Dave

So Andy is P1,ooops

[Guest Soultown andy]

Correct ken and didnt threaten anyone so make of it what you want,am sure sam will be his usual superb self at both venues.

[Guest]

Correct ken and didnt threaten anyone so make of it what you want,am sure sam will be his usual superb self at both venues.

I`m sure he will,Andy........and i`m sure you will be your superb self aswell,see ya`soon Ken

[Simsy]

HAVE THAT

Michael, what would we do without you!?