Pete S Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Only slightly relevant to the site but I had to mention this unbelievable box set i bought - We're Gonna Rock, We're Gonna Roll by Proper Records. It's a four cd set, 30 tracks on each, disc 1 is rhythm & blues, disc 2 is doo wop, disc 3 is hillbilly/rockabilly and disc 4 is rock & roll. A truly excellent track selection and a 68 page booklet, all for TEN QUID from a shop called Fopps. If you just check out the first disc: Arthur Crudup - Thats alright, Big Mama Thornton - Hound dog, Johnny Ace - Pledging my love, Junior Parker - Mystery train to kick off...maybe they don't have to license this stuff as it's outside of the copyright period, I don't know, but I enjoyed it that much I just thought I'd pass on the info. They also do a brilliant ska box set too which would be up there with the very best but for the inclusion of a smattering of UK recordings. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Were-Gonna-Rock-Roll/dp/B000BO5LYK Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Codfromderby Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 there a seller who advertises in record collector by the name of finbarrs who sells similar stuff at a similar price, i wonder if its the same seller Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted January 14, 2007 Author Share Posted January 14, 2007 there a seller who advertises in record collector by the name of finbarrs who sells similar stuff at a similar price, i wonder if its the same seller You're right, Finbarr's do very similar stuff. I just couldn't believe 120 tracks, brilliant book profiling every single artist...but what I said about copyright must be correct, you or I could have put this out because Blue Moon Of Kentucky by Elvis is on there and if that were still in copyright it wouldn't be on here Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest johnm Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 fopp stores are great just got an Atlantic gold 3cd set for a fiver!!!!!1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tony Turner Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Finbarr are great to deal with by the way Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 You're right, Finbarr's do very similar stuff. I just couldn't believe 120 tracks, brilliant book profiling every single artist...but what I said about copyright must be correct, you or I could have put this out because Blue Moon Of Kentucky by Elvis is on there and if that were still in copyright it wouldn't be on here copyright is 50 years over here, 90 years I think in the states, only 25 years I think in Holland. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
michael-j Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Proper do a great 4CD compilation of Western Swing and a second volume has just come out although i haven't heard it yet. Western swing being the now virtually forgotten half of Country and Western. 100 tracks, thick booklet, some killer stuff there, all 1920-1940 ish. some other good R&B 3 or 4 CD boxsets around at the moment, there's two companies doing them by year 'hits of 1954' etc, for six quid in Fopp you can't go wrong, sound quality is good. there's also one of all female stuff called something like 'I'm a Bad Bad Girl' which has some killer early stuff on. only bad thing about listening to this kind of stuff is wanting a track and finding out it's on 78 only... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted January 15, 2007 Author Share Posted January 15, 2007 Proper do a great 4CD compilation of Western Swing and a second volume has just come out although i haven't heard it yet. Western swing being the now virtually forgotten half of Country and Western. 100 tracks, thick booklet, some killer stuff there, all 1920-1940 ish. some other good R&B 3 or 4 CD boxsets around at the moment, there's two companies doing them by year 'hits of 1954' etc, for six quid in Fopp you can't go wrong, sound quality is good. there's also one of all female stuff called something like 'I'm a Bad Bad Girl' which has some killer early stuff on. only bad thing about listening to this kind of stuff is wanting a track and finding out it's on 78 only... Yeah I saw those boxes yesterday, I think they have an R&B set for every year from 1948 to 1953...looked fantastic. This shop, Fopp, I have to say it was the best music shop I've been in for a long long time, I stayed in for about 45 minutes and actually enjoyed the browsing experience, plus they had a VINYL SECTION which literally gave me goosebumps to see...though £15 upwards for an album is a bit much Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Depends which country they were issued in as to the copyright stuff. Nothing to stop them from being sold anywhere in the world tho. 'Finbarr' comes highly recc from this end too..obscure cutouts, imports, end of lines ect,damaged boxes,all sorts of music. I think it was from them I got the fantastic 'Chigago Cool Breezin' 3 cd box set of Brunswick, Chisound, Dakar from 66 to 83,, great tracks, sleeve notes and pictures but it was withdrawn...why?......notice the spelling of the title...... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Cunnie Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Yeah I saw those boxes yesterday, I think they have an R&B set for every year from 1948 to 1953...looked fantastic. This shop, Fopp, I have to say it was the best music shop I've been in for a long long time, I stayed in for about 45 minutes and actually enjoyed the browsing experience, plus they had a VINYL SECTION which literally gave me goosebumps to see...though £15 upwards for an album is a bit much Got a Fopp record shop in Sheffield Pete & have had some very nice stuff off them over the years. Always worth checking out the clearance stuff as there's always bargains to be had & you find stuff that other major record shops just don't stock. Had a couple of Sounds Of Blackness cd's off them for a fiver each but well worth checking for compilations. Seen all the Kent & Goldmine stuff in there for a fiver. Best thing though is some of the clearance books in there. Couple of years ago i picked up the current Manship price guide for a fiver & have seen stuff like KR's top 500 for £5 & the In Crowd book for £10. Great part of Sheffield to visit if looking for records as besides Fopp there's a couple of dance music shops that always have some discounted older stuff in + just round the corner there's Spin City records who specialise in vinyl. Owned by a friend of mine called Andy who loves his Northern & his wife Pauline likes a bit of Modern. Had some real nice stuff out of there over the years & it's more of a social thing really as you always bump into someone in there. Box after box of vinyl to rummage through & quite a big Ska/Reggae stock as well. Never found me a copy of My Conversation - The Uniques though. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted January 15, 2007 Author Share Posted January 15, 2007 Never found me a copy of My Conversation - The Uniques though. Have a listen to this mate, this is obviously the take that was used for the single but you can hear it in all it's live-in-the-studio glory here, I especially like right at the start you can hear the pianist practising the riff. Also this version goes on way after Slim Smith stops singing...absolutely fantastic stuff Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted January 15, 2007 Author Share Posted January 15, 2007 (edited) My Conversation (longer version) - slim smith & the uniques - island 13433 refosoul Refosoul Rare and Northern Soul Clip library This is brilliant but it's the wrong track, please go to the track below this one Edited January 15, 2007 by Pete-S Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted January 15, 2007 Author Share Posted January 15, 2007 Conversation - uniques - island 13434 refosoul This is the long version, originally studio cut Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Cunnie Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Conversation - uniques - island 13434 refosoul This is the long version, originally studio cut Brilliant that Pete 1st time i've heard the long version. Just love Keith 'Slim' Smiths voice. Racking my brains now, heard loads of different versions over the years but 1 sticks in my mind. Had it on a blank handwritten label years ago & it just said "1 fingered piano player". Any ideas? Seem to recall Freddie McGregor as well. Any more apart from the obvious JD version? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted January 15, 2007 Author Share Posted January 15, 2007 Brilliant that Pete 1st time i've heard the long version. Just love Keith 'Slim' Smiths voice. Racking my brains now, heard loads of different versions over the years but 1 sticks in my mind. Had it on a blank handwritten label years ago & it just said "1 fingered piano player". Any ideas? Seem to recall Freddie McGregor as well. Any more apart from the obvious JD version? Tony Rounce will no doubt know more than me but I personally think the best alternative version is "President mash up the resident" by Shorty...but there really are loads of versions, in fact there was once an album made up of 12 versions of the track. Also I remember in about 1991, the group Dream warriors used the original track for a song called Ludi (I think thats what it was called). There's a good organ version called Peacemaker by the Hippy Boys on Unity. I'll do a bit of research when I get back from the hospital. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Modernsoulsucks Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 I've got a 12" on Success by Leroy Sibbles & Heptones "Give me the right" which uses similar rhythm but without tinkling piano. I'd forget this modern soul stuff,Cunnie and run a soulful reggae night instead. Pete, what about Jackie Edwards "In paradise". Any chance of a download? ROD Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted January 15, 2007 Author Share Posted January 15, 2007 I've got this computer database program called Roots Knotty Roots which is a searchable database of some 20,000 Jamaican and Uk labels/songs/artists/producers, and I did a quick search for "Conversation" rhythm and it pulled up 32 straight away! So maybe we best leave this topic as it could get out of hand! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Cunnie Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 I've got a 12" on Success by Leroy Sibbles & Heptones "Give me the right" which uses similar rhythm but without tinkling piano. I'd forget this modern soul stuff,Cunnie and run a soulful reggae night instead. Pete, what about Jackie Edwards "In paradise". Any chance of a download? ROD Funny that cos once i played My Conversation at the end of one of our Modernism nights. Wanted to hear it on a good loud system & thought it would clear the room but every bugger came back & started dancing. Sort of turned into our signature tune after that. Other guys who run it with me wern't too keen at 1st but got my way in the end. Can feel a soulful reggae thread starting up soon. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted January 15, 2007 Author Share Posted January 15, 2007 I've got a 12" on Success by Leroy Sibbles & Heptones "Give me the right" which uses similar rhythm but without tinkling piano. I'd forget this modern soul stuff,Cunnie and run a soulful reggae night instead. Pete, what about Jackie Edwards "In paradise". Any chance of a download? ROD That's going a bit past my timescale Rod, it's from 71...I don't think I've got it, I found it on an LP but it's a definite re-recording Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
SteveM Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Funny that cos once i played My Conversation at the end of one of our Modernism nights. Wanted to hear it on a good loud system & thought it would clear the room but every bugger came back & started dancing. Sort of turned into our signature tune after that. Other guys who run it with me wern't too keen at 1st but got my way in the end. Can feel a soulful reggae thread starting up soon. Do they have a reggae section @ HMV Martin ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted January 15, 2007 Author Share Posted January 15, 2007 Ten To One - the mad lads - coxsone Not the soul group - very nice jamaican male harmony track Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Modernsoulsucks Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Pete,I hope that's not a case of modernreggaesucks!! It sounds a lot earlier than '71 from what I remember. Anyway this thread is too upsetting. I can't believe I threw away in 1972 around 200 60's Doctor Bird etc [All Mint!!] that I'd picked up for 2 bob on Stockport market cos I'd gotten into Northern UK and US originals. What a f..king chump!! ROD Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted January 15, 2007 Author Share Posted January 15, 2007 Pete,I hope that's not a case of modernreggaesucks!! It sounds a lot earlier than '71 from what I remember. Anyway this thread is too upsetting. I can't believe I threw away in 1972 around 200 60's Doctor Bird etc [All Mint!!] that I'd picked up for 2 bob on Stockport market cos I'd gotten into Northern UK and US originals. What a f..king chump!! ROD Well it's a standard Rod as you know but the only Jackie Edwards version I can find is on Trojan from 71 - though I thought he did a version with Millie in the mid 60's, I'll have a proper look when I get back Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted January 15, 2007 Author Share Posted January 15, 2007 I'm Still Waiting - cornell campbell - studio one 13438 refosoul There's loads of versions of this Wailers classic but this is the only true soul version I know of Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Modernsoulsucks Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 I have a nice lovers version of that by Sandra and Jah Larry on a Charmers 12" "You're still waiting". Early 80's I think, before it all went bloody digital!! ROD Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Cunnie Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Do they have a reggae section @ HMV Martin ? B8ll8cks Mannion. Got a reggae section in Fopp to try to get this back on topic (not trying too hard though) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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