C.O.D's on ebay what will be the price

[Speedlimit]

The cod's. She's fire  a record that's never turned up in quantity  this old Richard searlings Micky valvano cover up had stood the test of time rarety wise with only a handful of known copies, what do you think this will fetch 

[Frankie Crocker]

Condition a limiting factor... Was hoping nobody would notice and skip over thinking just another copy of Michael or I’m A Good Guy...

[Amsterdam Russ]

Link here...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/C-O-D-S-CODS-SHES-FIRE-ON-KELLMAC-NORTHERN-45-HEAR/362957648350

[Speedlimit]

3 hours ago, Frankie Crocker said:

Condition a limiting factor... Was hoping nobody would notice and skip over thinking just another copy of Michael or I’m A Good Guy...

Me too  way to fast to dance to these days  sure it will go for a few dollars 

[Frankie Crocker]

Topped £1,234 within 24 hours. Sounds OK despite VG- grade. Shame it never had a widespread release compared to their other songs which number amongst the commonest Chicago collectibles.

[Julianb]

21 hours ago, Speedlimit said:

Me too  way to fast to dance to these days  sure it will go for a few dollars 

Not sure I could have danced to this even in the drug fuelled days!

[Speedlimit]

2 hours ago, Julianb said:

Not sure I could have danced to this even in the drug fuelled days!

There's a tune even faster than this  I used to play covered up as Micky valvano and the C.O.D's by Rico Barr and Boston barristers in the 80's. Yea agree this was a little fast even back then 

[Nick Soule]

Would love to have seen the dance routine they would do if they ever performed this one live. 

[Sebastian]

I'd say that the visual condition of a record this rare is almost entirely irrelevant as long as it plays fine. And this one does. Absolute monster of a tune. 

[Tomangoes]

Saw a copy for $1000 at the la2004 gig..

You could also buy this for $10:

Ed

[The Tempest]

21 hours ago, Speedlimit said:

There's a tune even faster than this  I used to play covered up as Micky valvano and the C.O.D's by Rico Barr and Boston barristers in the 80's. Yea agree this was a little fast even back then 

 

[Winsford Soul]

On 30/03/2020 at 09:19, Speedlimit said:

The cod's. She's fire  a record that's never turned up in quantity  this old Richard searlings Micky valvano cover up had stood the test of time rarety wise with only a handful of known copies, what do you think this will fetch 

Currently on at $2555 3 days to go

[Lionelonthevinyl]

I've never seen one for sale from memory. Will go for serious money I would imagine...way to fast for me to dance to...I can just about cope with a beat ballad...Thank you for sharing....Rob

[Speedlimit]

8 hours ago, The Tempest said:

 

That's the one 

[Speedlimit]

3 hours ago, Lionelonthevinyl said:

I've never seen one for sale from memory. Will go for serious money I would imagine...way to fast for me to dance to...I can just about cope with a beat ballad...Thank you for sharing....Rob

Only a handful of copies, yes agree in this age condition doesn't seem to matter for records like this to go for silly money. Must say I prefer a more mid tempo crossover sound these days. Easier on the legs lol 

[Speedlimit]

3 hours ago, Winsford Soul said:

Currently on at $2555 3 days to go

I'm sure it will top between 3500 & 4000. 

[Winsford Soul]

13 minutes ago, Speedlimit said:

I'm sure it will top between 3500 & 4000. 

I would have to go 4 to 4.5 K 

[Frankie Crocker]

All early bids have been cancelled. The auction has been re-started. Looks like the record has been given an extra clean to produce a better sound. I reckon someone with loadsa money has been speeding things up a bit to clinch the auction. I expect it to go above 5K now.

[Julianb]

8 minutes ago, Frankie Crocker said:

All early bids have been cancelled. The auction has been re-started. Looks like the record has been given an extra clean to produce a better sound. I reckon someone with loadsa money has been speeding things up a bit to clinch the auction. I expect it to go above 5K now.

Is that in $ or £s ?

[Frankie Crocker]

5 minutes ago, Julianb said:

Is that in $ or £s ?

Dollars. Not much difference between dollars and pounds nowadays...

[Davebanks]

Why is this particular Kellmac release so rare? After all its not many releases after the huge success of Michael a mere 7 releases earlier.

Dave Banks

[Sheldonsoul]

Another shite tune , that’s worshipped for it rarity and loads of people get the mindset it’s ace cos it’s dog rare

[Simon T]

1 hour ago, davebanks said:

Why is this particular Kellmac release so rare? After all its not many releases after the huge success of Michael a mere 7 releases earlier.

Dave Banks

with my conspiracy hat on, I'd propose it's  because it's got the name Singleton on the label. However, there are thousands of 'northern' records that are in two figure numbers and less, on major labels too, that can't be given a plausible reason  for their rarity.

[Sebastian]

Would be extremely surprised if this doesn't go $10000+.

If it can be danced to it is beside the point. It's just an incredible, attitude packed piece of powerful music. 

[Jim G]

new link, the old one was ended by seller

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/C-O-D-S-CODS-SHES-FIRE-ON-KELLMAC-NORTHERN-45-NEW-SOUNDCLIP-Hear/383488605320?hash=item5949b3bc88:g:UWsAAOSwN6VegBeH

[Frankie Crocker]

30 minutes ago, Sebastian said:

Would be extremely surprised if this doesn't go $10000+.

If it can be danced to it is beside the point. It's just an incredible, attitude packed piece of powerful music. 

Depends on who’s interested. A top Northern DJ would be my preference. There are Chicago label hunters who collect by number so this would be a nice filler copy. There’s also the Mystery Shopper of Malibu Beach (no, not Harry) who has millions in the bank and is scooping the rarest of the rare at auctions.

[Simon T]

2 hours ago, Frankie Crocker said:

Depends on who’s interested. A top Northern DJ would be my preference. There are Chicago label hunters who collect by number so this would be a nice filler copy. There’s also the Mystery Shopper of Malibu Beach (no, not Harry) who has millions in the bank and is scooping the rarest of the rare at auctions.

 anybody on here remember it being played out, if so when and where? And who played it?

[Amsterdam Russ]

17 minutes ago, Simon T said:

 anybody on here remember it being played out, if so when and where? And who played it?

Keb Darge in the 80s, although I'm sure I read somewhere years back that he was playing it on a carver (I could be completely mistaken about that last part).

[Chalky]

 

4 hours ago, Simon T said:

 anybody on here remember it being played out, if so when and where? And who played it?

Richard Searling, Dave Withers who sold it to Guy I believe.  More recent years Tim Brown.  

Edited April 3, 2020 by Chalky

[Simon T]

47 minutes ago, Simon T said:

 anybody on here remember it being played out, if so when and where? And who played it?

 

7 minutes ago, Chalky said:

Richard

Richafd Searling, Dave Withers who sold it to Guy I believe.  More recent years Tim Brown.  

Modernsoulsucks can probably fill in the details. I was just asking if anyone remembers actually hearing it played out at an soul do, Wigan?

[Modernsoulsucks]

I obviously remember it from odd play at Wigan.

Bought it off Richard for £100 around 81/82.

Played at Stafford.

Sold to Tim in 1999/2000 for £8500.

[Davey S]

Yep remember it from Wigan thought it was awful then still do but it's rare so anything over 50 quid is silly money . Imho.

[Chalky]

3 hours ago, Simon T said:

 

Modernsoulsucks can probably fill in the details. I was just asking if anyone remembers actually hearing it played out at an soul do, Wigan?

Heard it quite a few times over the years

[Soulman58]

Am I the only one who thinks the world has gone mad when someone can bid/pay absurd sums of money for a piece of vinyl with everything else that is going on?  Irrespective of whether good/bad/rare.

[Geeselad]

8 minutes ago, Soulman58 said:

Am I the only one who thinks the world has gone mad when someone can bid/pay absurd sums of money for a piece of vinyl with everything else that is going on?  Irrespective of whether good/bad/rare.

Possibly it's a much needed distraction ATM.

[Winsford Soul]

26 minutes ago, Soulman58 said:

Am I the only one who thinks the world has gone mad when someone can bid/pay absurd sums of money for a piece of vinyl with everything else that is going on?  Irrespective of whether good/bad/rare.

Regardless of what goes in the world it doesn't matter / or affect  some people,  

[Joesoap]

9 hours ago, Simon T said:

 

Modernsoulsucks can probably fill in the details. I was just asking if anyone remembers actually hearing it played out at an soul do, Wigan?

As Amsterdam Russ says above, was played by Keb, mid-80s. Would have been 100 Club, possibly Stafford, Leighton Buzzard, assorted soul nights, etc. Seem to remember he only featured it fairly briefly, few months maybe but that's where I first heard it. Played as by both 'Micky Valvano' and CODs in those confusing, bygone days!

[Speedlimit]

Keb played it around 83 84ish Dave and Rod prior to that more recently Tim brown, mick h and of course butch. And of course Richard was the first late 79 covered as Micky valvano, played the same night as the combinations c/u chessmen nurons earnestine eady and a few others. 

[Petebangor]

Definitely a Searling play at Wigan.  I have a live tape with this on it.

[Tomangoes]

9 hours ago, Soulman58 said:

Am I the only one who thinks the world has gone mad when someone can bid/pay absurd sums of money for a piece of vinyl with everything else that is going on?  Irrespective of whether good/bad/rare.

Human nature...if a top collector died and the wifey sells the vinyl....not everybody would be respectful....some would see it as an opportunity.

Sad but true...

You hear a lot of stories about great finds in charity shops. Not many say they gave more than the asking price of 50 pence or so.

Vinyl addiction can be a cruel mistress:)

Ed

[Frankie Crocker]

On 02/04/2020 at 21:47, davebanks said:

Why is this particular Kellmac release so rare? After all its not many releases after the huge success of Michael a mere 7 releases earlier.

Dave Banks

Robert Pruter explains the situation on pages 172-173 of Chicago Soul. Although ‘Michael’ was a Billboard chart success, the costs of pressing it up were huge and returns disproportionate. Kellmac contracted George Leaner’s Onederful label firm to do their distribution but this was disadvantageous to the company. Subsequent releases of the C.O.D.’s lacked the melodic quality of their early hit so failed to get radio station airplay or sales. ‘She’s Fire’ was released as Kellmac 1010 in 1967. By now, all the principals of the company are broke and the C.O.D.’s disbanded. Interestingly, Kellmac 1011 featuring the Combinations ‘What ‘Cha Gonna Do’ is also dead rare. Clearly Kellmac had no money to press up their final records in quantity. I suspect George Leaner would not have extended any credit to Kellmac given their lack of airplay and low sales. I wonder if Leaner regarded Kellmac as unwanted competition to his stable of labels, so was reluctant to help Singleton and Brownlee out?

Both of the mega-rare Kellmac releases sold for over $8,000 apiece in 2012 so this figure could well be topped later today.

[Gilly]

Has that John Kondos and the Inspiration gone or been withdrawn 

[The Yank]

3 hours ago, Frankie Crocker said:

 Subsequent releases of the C.O.D.’s lacked the melodic quality of their early hit so failed to get radio station airplay.

 

      "I'm Looking Out For Me" did pick up some local airplay on WVON  (#31) and also in Memphis, Baltimore and Houston - 

 

[Frankie Crocker]

15 minutes ago, The Yank said:

      "I'm Looking Out For Me" did pick up some local airplay on WVON  (#31) and also in Memphis, Baltimore and Houston - 

 

Interesting...higher than Jack Montgomery and some others worth having. The third release by the C.O.D’s so certainly more copies pressed than Kellmac 1010 and 1012, the last throw of the dice.

[The Yank]

Jack Montgomery did go a little higher on the WVON chart a few weeks later but did much better on another Chicago station (WBEE) going up to 

#17.  Kellmac #1010 and #1012 must have been pressed in very small quantities. 

[Frankie Crocker]

18 minutes ago, The Yank said:

Jack Montgomery did go a little higher on the WVON chart a few weeks later but did much better on another Chicago station (WBEE) going up to 

#17.  Kellmac #1010 and #1012 must have been pressed in very small quantities. 

Not even small quantities, just tiny numbers. Even 1012 is pretty rare but the number of surviving copies of ‘She’s Fire’ is miniscule.

[Russoul1]

well that went cheaply imo…...nearly put a bid on it

great record yes maybe to fast but whoosh.....love it!