Corona Virus - News & Info

[Colnago]

1 hour ago, Blackpoolsoul said:

I agree and all the news programmes are currently showing builders and construction workers this morning live on TV working in close proximity

Dahhhhhh!!!

Yes it’s bloody crazy .

[Colnago]

Tell you what though, it’ll be interesting what the drug dealers are going to do if total lockdown comes . Mind you they will probably get some concessions lol 

[JJMMWG DuPree]

Ocado puts me in a queue and when my turn comes up asks me to log in again then puts me back in the queue.  Superdrug accepted my order on the condition that it was 'click and collect', Superfood Market doesn't recognise me as an existing customer, and Sainsbury's can't find my account and will currently only correspond with customers by 'phone (Which of course puts you in a queue).

Sometime last century I had an account with Waitrose.  I guess it's worth a try...

[Timillustrator]

3 hours ago, Blackpoolsoul said:

I agree and all the news programmes are currently showing builders and construction workers this morning live on TV working in close proximity

Dahhhhhh!!!

Latest guidance from the Construction Industry Council, sounds like they are shutting down but you can't just walk away from a half built building.

"The construction industry will come to work tomorrow, to prepare to shut down works safely, whilst awaiting further information. This means as a minimum, to do whatever is necessary to leave works in a state that can be safely left for some while, and to secure plant, equipment and materials.  This should include the maintaining of site security, the stability of partially constructed structures than could become unstable and potentially dangerous, and the maintenance of systems that would be unsafe to stop (dewatering systems that, if failed, could lead to catastrophic disaster, but there will be other examples)."

 

[Colnago]

4 hours ago, Timillustrator said:

Latest guidance from the Construction Industry Council, sounds like they are shutting down but you can't just walk away from a half built building.

"The construction industry will come to work tomorrow, to prepare to shut down works safely, whilst awaiting further information. This means as a minimum, to do whatever is necessary to leave works in a state that can be safely left for some while, and to secure plant, equipment and materials.  This should include the maintaining of site security, the stability of partially constructed structures than could become unstable and potentially dangerous, and the maintenance of systems that would be unsafe to stop (dewatering systems that, if failed, could lead to catastrophic disaster, but there will be other examples)."

 

Of course they have to ensure the safety etc of the half built projects etc , I’m more thinking that a lot of the companies wouldn’t be there to scale the work down and would carry on until told otherwise and possibly take the construction to further stage where it could be even harder to make safe . I jacked site work in yonks since as there’s no loyalty by the companies for the men hence one of the reasons why there is a severe shortage of tradesmen but that’s another issue. 

[Len]

A lot of my customers are now shutting today. Last night I was just going to send our young lad home until further notice, but have now decided to send my skilled man home too.

It would be good if I was allowed to come to work on my own to do as much as I can to earn a bit towards this testing time, but if we are told not to I will respect that.

Best of luck to all.

Len 

[Chalky]

1 hour ago, Len said:

A lot of my customers are now shutting today. Last night I was just going to send our young lad home until further notice, but have now decided to send my skilled man home too.

It would be good if I was allowed to come to work on my own to do as much as I can to earn a bit towards this testing time, but if we are told not to I will respect that.

Best of luck to all.

Len 

Wait till Friday mate, you should be able to get the 80% of wages then

[Len]

1 hour ago, Chalky said:

Wait till Friday mate, you should be able to get the 80% of wages then

I hope so, and for anyone else out there - Just to keep all our doors open long enough so we can start to build again.

Funnily enough, I'm sitting here at work having just sent an email to my accountant with the lads overtime hours etc.  It is so quiet on this Industrial Estate, I'm the only one about - It's gonna hit home when I pull the roller shutter door down in a minute.

Still, we're all in this together.

Len 

[Chalky]

There are still many taking no notice of the instructions from the PM it would seem.  The number of families, couple, old and young on the roads today was a joke.  The A1 was pretty busy. What will it take for them to get a grip, for one of them to die from this!

[Lionelonthevinyl]

4 minutes ago, Len said:

Well that's a good thing for anyone who has got a bit 'out of hand' on their wares.......As is no sport - That's got to help anyone with a gambling habit.

Len 

Very cryptic but spot on len.

[Mike]

the recent sad news post by  a member about another member has been dropped as appears to be some doubt on this 

just so aware

[Source Team]

site note - recent topic on wages etc have been moved into the members talk topic here

this is as per recent tweaks to the cv topics made to try and reflect current times better

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Message - There are now 3 topics  set up for Corona discussion. Please use the best suited topic...

Corona Virus News & Info -  a serious topic for discussion and info regarding official UK Govt news/advice discussion

Corona Virus Members - members life/work, jobs, isolation etc etc in freebasing

Offtopic Corona Talk - more light humoured and casual discussion in freebasing

UK Govt Advice - Know the facts - To make sure you get the best information on the virus. Visit the NHS
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/

 

 

Please use this topic from now on for mainly serious discussion on the main official UK Govt news/advice points and the other two topics for more specific points/topics

 

[Mike]

BBC News Item UK virus latest figures

The number of coronavirus deaths in the UK has risen to 463, up from 422. That's a daily increase of 41 - less than half the increase from a day earlier.

Cases are up, with 9,529 cases as of Wednesday compared to 8,077 cases the day before.

Some 97,019 have been tested for the virus - of which 87,490 had tested negative.

To find out specifically how many cases there are in each part of England, check out this tracker by Public Health England.

 

source :  BBC News Article

[Timillustrator]

Some good news for a change: From Peter Leek "IN ANSWER TO EVERYBODY WHO IS CONCERNED ABOUT WOZZAS WELLBEING . I HAVE JUST SPOKEN TO HIS DAUGHTER KATIE AND HE IS STABLE AND MAKING SMALL STEPS . GOOD NEWS FOR US ALL"

[Winsford Soul]

6 minutes ago, Timillustrator said:

Some good news for a change: From Peter Leek "IN ANSWER TO EVERYBODY WHO IS CONCERNED ABOUT WOZZAS WELLBEING . I HAVE JUST SPOKEN TO HIS DAUGHTER KATIE AND HE IS STABLE AND MAKING SMALL STEPS . GOOD NEWS FOR US ALL"

Good luck with the recovery.  

[Leicester Boy]

Some better news in the times, a scientist from imperial college who advises the government has said the death toll could be substantially less than the 20000 first quoted and he thinks the nhs will be able to cope.

[Mike]

9 minutes ago, Leicester Boy said:

Some better news in the times, a scientist from imperial college who advises the government has said the death toll could be substantially less than the 20000 first quoted and he thinks the nhs will be able to cope.

is this the article? - I can't get on the times as it has a paywall 

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/196477/j-ideas-neil-ferguson-tells-mps-lockdown/

[Leicester Boy]

No the article i saw was posted on foxestalk and is from today's times and quotes neil ferguson talking to radio 4 .

[Mike]

1 minute ago, Leicester Boy said:

No the article i saw was posted on foxestalk and is from today's times and quotes neil ferguson talking to radio 4 .

have you got a link to it, cheers

[Leicester Boy]

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/nhs-now-likely-to-cope-with-coronavirus-says-key-scientist-m5m6nggk   

[Johndelve]

Well, I sincerely hope he is right. But as my daughter and brother both work in an NHS hospital and neither has been tested yet, and there is still no definite sign in short term of that happening, and with staff numbers massively down thanks to self-isolation,  I am afraid I have to remain a bit sceptical.

[Mike]

Tonite 8pm - NHS workers in fight against coronavirus to be thanked with nationwide round of applause

 

 

[Mike]

5 hours ago, Mike said:

Tonite 8pm - NHS workers in fight against coronavirus to be thanked with nationwide round of applause

 

 

has to be a good thing!

[Imperial C]

Out in the sticks here Mike near Halifax, all the neighbours everywhere clapping

[Winsford Soul]

Same here near North Manchester General hospital.  Very moving. 

[Kevinkent]

Fantastic response from all my neighbours!  Same goes in Canterbury where my son (ambulance crew) and his wife (hospital cleaner) live.  Unfortunately, where my daughter (midwife) and her husband (NHS technician) live, just a mile away from us, they heard nothing. 

Wish I could see them all, and the grandkids too.

- Kev

[none]

Walley Road Road Clitheroe every one outside . Could here it echoed around .

Fantastic shows in very small part how much we care. 

[Wilxy]

Yes indeed, had a similar response in Bishop's Cleeve Gloucestershire (at least in Green Meadow Bank), They in the NHS are heroes, and deserve more than applause.....Under the circumstances, they should all be awarded Medals X

[Len]

The same in our street - A kind of serious, loud, very appreciative round of applause (If that makes sense) 

My sister (Mary) told me that on her estate, although she couldn't actually see any of her neighbors because of the way her house is situated on a corner, after their applause she felt impelled to shout "Hip hip!", then "Hooray!" echoed back all around her (x 3) Also very moving.

Another day to get through guys - Keep those spirits up for each other.

Len 

[Julianb]

We were all out on our road. Best thing was the next door neighbours ( 3 of them working in the health service)) and their kids were out cheering their colleagues.  Very moving

Edited March 27, 2020 by Julianb

[Hooker1951]

That spirit showed at 8pm last night in appreciating the NHS was fantastic and is the togetherness that beats everything that is negative including this virus, If we all pull together like we’ve been asked we will see the back of this a lot sooner than you think.

God Bless

ML

[Guest]

I`m embarrassed to say I missed it, I was in the bath

[Amsterdam Russ]

Just seen on the news that Boris Johnson has tested positive for coronavirus...

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-boris-johnson-tests-positive-for-covid-19-11964493

[Source Team]

BBC News Summary

UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson has tested positive for coronavirus after displaying "mild" symptoms

The UK's Health Secretary Matt Hancock has also contracted the virus and is in self-isolation

In Spain, the death toll has risen sharply in the last 24 hours. There were 769 new fatalities, up from 655 the previous day, taking the total toll to 4,858

Firefighters in the UK are to take on extra duties during the pandemic, including driving ambulances and delivering food and medicines
 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-52058788

[Kev John]

2885 new cases and 181 new deaths in Uk today 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/

Edited March 27, 2020 by Kev John

[Mike]

just a quick moderation request 

best if use the topic below now for the more general virus discussion

https://www.soul-source.co.uk/forums/topic/406343-members-corona-virus-related-talk/

and if possible keep this topic more  as the serious topic for discussion and info regarding official UK Govt news/advice  points

thanks

[Mike]

The following tweet made quite an important point that haven't seen covered much yet

 

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He was following the government's advice and ended up dying alone in his flat yesterday at the age of just 50.
Please check up on anyone you know is self-isolating on their own.

 

 

 

[Mike]

BBC News article recently posted...

 

People are heeding the advice to stay at home to keep pressure off the NHS, and there are early signs that it is working, the UK's chief scientific adviser has said.

Sir Patrick Vallance told a news conference that social distancing measures are "making a difference".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52096049

[Len]

We're all witnesing this which is brilliant - Social distancing was bound to take a little while to sink in with people.  At work (alone) what deliveries do arrive are left outside, and the drivers don't requier a signature anymore.  And it's good to see people queueing outside the supermarkets 2 meters away from each other.

It doesn't feel natural of course, but people now fully understand and smile when passing each other at the requiered distance.

I just hope the Mexican president takes it seriously soon https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/25/coronavirus-advice-from-mexicos-president-live-life-as-usual 

Len 

[Blackpoolsoul]

10 minutes ago, Len said:

We're all witnesing this which is brilliant - Social distancing was bound to take a little while to sink in with people.  At work (alone) what deliveries do arrive are left outside, and the drivers don't requier a signature anymore.  And it's good to see people queueing outside the supermarkets 2 meters away from each other.

It doesn't feel natural of course, but people now fully understand and smile when passing each other at the requiered distance.

I just hope the Mexican president takes it seriously soon https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/25/coronavirus-advice-from-mexicos-president-live-life-as-usual 

Len 

I agree with your enthusiasm, however, when we (my wife and I) went to The Post Office and Asda yesterday, we spotted a few things.

At our local Post Office (I sat in car while my wife went in to post our record sales) a car drew up behind us (1994 BMW in spanking condition). Out got a gentleman who looked as old if not older than my father (84) and went in to the shop part of the Post Office to buy something ?

At Asda another gentleman ( looked in his 70''s ) was sat in his 1998 Nissan Micra ( battery flat ) waiting for the RAC (I didn't have any jump leads)

The queuing system at Asda was good but members of staff were hugging each other on the way out when finishing shifts

It's not perfect yet

[Jumpinjoan]

My house faces directly over the canal and I have never seen so many walkers, horse riders, cyclists, families, couples, joggers on the path since the lockdown was announced.

Yes, exercise by all means but there is no way you can't keep to the two metre rule on the towpath. I despair! 

[Mike]

two posts moved back from other cv topic

getting awkward moving/splitting posts  - will look at this deeper

[Winsford Soul]

7 minutes ago, Jumpinjoan said:

My house faces directly over the canal and I have never seen so many walkers, horse riders, cyclists, families, couples, joggers on the path since the lockdown was announced.

Yes, exercise by all means but there is no way you can't keep to the two metre rule on the towpath. I despair! 

Totally agree with you on that one Joan. But then you have the other extreme. The canal and river trust has advised people not to walk past moored boats.  WTF . How can you do that unless you don't actually walk on the tow path.  Trust all is well and safe.  X

[Soulfusion]

We go out to exercise and walk the dog. People from the same household do not have to maintain the 2m distance. Everyone here we meet is observing the rules except the dog who is struggling with social distancing 

 

 

Edited March 31, 2020 by Soulfusion

[Wicked]

Been for a walk this morning most people keep their distance, still plenty who won't give an inch even though there's plenty of room, had to walk in the road a couple of times, all ages as well.

[Veedub]

One of my neighbours, she walks her dog about 20 times a day, every time I look up shes passing our window. feckin dogs got blisters- hes never been out so much

[Mike]

BBC News Feed

Summary

UK must go "further, faster" to ramp up coronavirus testing capacity, UK cabinet minister says

UK "not out of the woods" NHS England medical director says

A total of 1,789 people have died in the UK as of 17:00 BST on 30 March – a rise of 381

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-52101615

[Mike]

BBC News 16:09
If you are just joining us...
A very warm welcome if you are just joining us, particularly if you are reading this and are unwell or in self-isolation.

Here are the latest developments from the UK and around the world.

The UK says that the number of patients who have died has risen by 563 since Tuesday to 2,352. The government said 29,474 people had tested positive for the virus, up 4,324 since Tuesday

Spain has seen a new record daily death toll of 864, taking the total there to 9,053. The number of confirmed cases has passed 100,000 - more than any other country except the US and Italy

In Iran, the death toll has passed 3,000 with 138 new deaths in the past 24 hours. Tehran has repeated its criticism of the US for continuing to impose sanctions

The UK's heir to the throne, Prince Charles, has spoken of the "distressing" effect of isolation following his recovery from coronavirus

The British government says it is ramping up its efforts to test more NHS workers in a bid to get healthy staff who are self-isolating back to work

The Wimbledon tennis tournament has been cancelled for the first time since World War Two because of the pandemic, the All England Club confirms

Edinburgh's famous Fringe festival and four other major cultural events in the city have been cancelled because of the pandemic

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-52115535

[Drewtg]

HI folks.

Is there a reason why nobody is wearing masks when outside? I know that they are not 100% effective, but they are better than nothing. Nurses wear them.

Over here, you can't go to a public place without wearing a mask.

[Chalky]

5 hours ago, Drewtg said:

HI folks.

Is there a reason why nobody is wearing masks when outside? I know that they are not 100% effective, but they are better than nothing. Nurses wear them.

Over here, you can't go to a public place without wearing a mask.

They have said that you only really need a mask if you have the virus or working in the firing line, NHS etc.  Most are ineffective anyway as the virus is largely transmitted via surface contact.