Northern Soul Auction - Wessex auctions 6th march

[Modboy1]

 

Hello

 

Just found this Northern Soul auction on line with lots of Mint original US / UK Northern Soul singles and many unreleased Northern Soul singles that came from a big UK publishing company, might be interesting to some people here:

 

Full catalogue now on line, here is the link:

Auction catalogue is available here

https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/wessex-auction-rooms/catalogue-id-srwess10237

 

 

 

Edited February 17, 2020 by Mike
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[Winsford Soul]

2 minutes ago, Modboy1 said:

 

Hello

 

Just found this Northern Soul auction on line, might be interesting to some people here:

 

Full catalogue now on line, here is the link:

 

Post deleted,  sorted out

 

Edited February 17, 2020 by Winsford Soul

[Mike]

just moved this to box forum as guess may be of interest

any (one)  have further background on this set of auctions ?

[Modboy1]

These came from one of the UK’s biggest music publishing companies library and includes many unreleased Acetates.

I am definitely going to be there on the day...

Edited February 17, 2020 by Modboy1

[Mike]

2 minutes ago, Modboy1 said:

From what I have been told by the auction house came from one of the UK’s biggest music publishing companies library.

ok thanks

am taking it that's you posting up the vids on youtube yep?

so involved in the auction some way?

can you expand on your involvement

thanks

 

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This is an Unreleased double sided Northern Soul / Funk UK Acetate by the Ad Libs from 1970. This Acetate will be sold at Wessex Auction Rooms on the 6th of March 2020 see details below. The track “One Guy One Girl is unreleased while the other side is a demo of a track that came out only in the US in 1970.

 

[Modboy1]

I am helping the publishing company selling these, I bought part of the library but not the Northern Soul stuff as they have been told it was worth a lot of money, so I said I will help them.

[Mike]

1 minute ago, Modboy1 said:

I am helping the publishing company selling these, I bought part of the library but not the Northern Soul stuff as they have been told it was worth a lot of money, so I said I will help them.

thanks for reply 

 

[Modboy1]

A photo of some of the rarities included in the auction:

 

 

Edited February 21, 2020 by Modboy1

[Chalky]

Same one or another?

https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/omega-auctions/catalogue-id-srom10200/lot-562a5c3f-4714-43e2-bd48-ab6700b0c7fb?utm_campaign=auction-alert&utm_content=lot-image-link&utm_medium=email&utm_source=auction-alert

 

Edited February 21, 2020 by Chalky

[Modboy1]

Different one and much better on the Northern Soul side, it’s this one: https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/wessex-auction-rooms/catalogue-id-srwess10237 

Edited February 21, 2020 by Modboy1

[Woodbutcher]

39 minutes ago, Chalky said:

Same one or another?

https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/omega-auctions/catalogue-id-srom10200/lot-562a5c3f-4714-43e2-bd48-ab6700b0c7fb?utm_campaign=auction-alert&utm_content=lot-image-link&utm_medium=email&utm_source=auction-alert

https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/omega-auctions/catalogue-id-srom10200/lot-562a5c3f-4714-43e2-bd48-ab6700b0c7fb?utm_campaign=auction-alert&utm_content=lot-image-link&utm_medium=email&utm_source=auction-alert

You'd have thought that JM would have had that back for reselling , got to be a better bet than some small auction house ... ?

They have used John's blurb though ... 

Edited February 21, 2020 by WoodButcher

[Chris O]

same pic, same write up but 2 different auction houses?

 

[Woodbutcher]

No it's clearly Omega .

 

[Chris O]

6 minutes ago, WoodButcher said:

oh right! woops. it does pop up at the bottom of the Wessex page though?

 

Edited February 21, 2020 by Chris O

[Modboy1]

Here is the leaflet for the Wessex Auction:

 

 

[Jim G]

On 17/02/2020 at 20:35, Modboy1 said:

I am helping the publishing company selling these, I bought part of the library but not the Northern Soul stuff as they have been told it was worth a lot of money, so I said I will help them.

WOW is all I can say. They have a ton of rare NM records for sale. Where have they been hiding all these years?!

[Richard]

Have dealt with Modboy1 before on eBay, top lad

[Winsford Soul]

47 minutes ago, Jim G said:

WOW is all I can say. They have a ton of rare NM records for sale. Where have they been hiding all these years?!

Not in my record boxes unfortunately 

[Modboy1]

3 hours ago, Richard said:

Have dealt with Modboy1 before on eBay, top lad

Cheers Richard, always happy to help.

Jim G, they have been in a climate controlled storage place for the last 20+ years, thanks god for that, this is the reason all the Acetates are in way above normal condition for 40-50 years old Acetates.

[Modboy1]

I was wondering if, with the amount of knowledge on this website, can anyone identify any of the Unknown and Unreleased Acetates included in this auction?

[Woodbutcher]

Not 'til after the hammer has dropped ... 

[Guest Shufflin]

6 hours ago, Modboy1 said:

I was wondering if, with the amount of knowledge on this website, can anyone identify any of the Unknown and Unreleased Acetates included in this auction?

"I Get Better Looking Everyday" sounds an awful lot like a Gladys Knight track

Edited February 22, 2020 by Shufflin

[Merve]

Read the small print if bidding - 26.34% buyers fee to be added to your bid ( if Im not mistaken)....Some great sounds there though 

[Modboy1]

11 hours ago, Merve said:

Read the small print if bidding - 26.34% buyers fee to be added to your bid ( if Im not mistaken)....Some great sounds there though 

That percentage is for Omega Auction which is much higher then the Wessex Auction Room Northern Soul auction.

The percentage for the Wessex auction is 17.5 %, or you can always phone and leave bids with the auction house to save some money (it is slightly higher if bidding through the-salesroom website.

 

[Bo Diddley]

1 hour ago, Modboy1 said:

That percentage is for Omega Auction which is much higher then the Wessex Auction Room Northern Soul auction.

The percentage for the Wessex auction is 17.5 %, or you can always phone and leave bids with the auction house to save some money (it is slightly higher if bidding through the-salesroom website.

 

Hi, Thanks for bringing the auction to our attention. Also, useful to know it's cheaper to phone and leave bids, so thanks again.

Reading the website it looks like the Buyers Premium is 17% PLUS VAT, so a total of 20.4%. A winning bid of say £250 means you pay £301 PLUS postage. I assume postage will come in at about £10. Please correct me if I've got this wrong.

Do you need to register with them prior to the auction so they can take any bids in advance?

All the best

Kev Bod

Edited February 25, 2020 by Bo Diddley

[Merve]

3 hours ago, Modboy1 said:

That percentage is for Omega Auction which is much higher then the Wessex Auction Room Northern Soul auction.

The percentage for the Wessex auction is 17.5 %, or you can always phone and leave bids with the auction house to save some money (it is slightly higher if bidding through the-salesroom website.

 

Sorry if I'm being a bit dim here, but isn't it the same auction with online bids going through 'The Saleroom' web site or am I missing something ?.....Where should I bid for The Wessex auction rather than through The Salesroom? ....Just a bit confused

 

Edited February 25, 2020 by Merve

[Modboy1]

OK, here is the breakdown, if bidding through "the-salesroom" there is an addition of 4.95% on top of the auction house commission of 17%, which could be a lot on high end items, I always prefer to either bid live on the phone, or leave my top bid with the auction house, when you ring them to leave a bid with them they take your details and register you as buyer.

Wessex Auctions charge the lowest commission of any auction house in the UK at 17%,  and on most other auction houses it is normally 25%-30% (and higher at Christies or Sotheby’s and Other Music specialist Auction houses) !!!

Regarding postage, I would ring the auction house for a quote, it will probably be cheap for 1 single and will go up depending on size and weight.

Their packing is great as I bought records from them before.

I hope this answers all the questions above.

 

Edited June 5, 2020 by Modboy1
Correction

[Bo Diddley]

1 hour ago, Merve said:

Sorry if I'm being a bit dim here, but isn't it the same auction with online bids going through 'The Saleroom' web site or am I missing something ?.....Where should I bid for The Wessex auction rather than through The Salesroom? ....Just a bit confused

 

Hi Merve,

My understanding is that "The Saleroom" is a sort of virtual, online sale room and is how you would bid as if you were down in the actual sale room in Chippenham. It saves you the time and expense of attending the actual sale in person. However, there is an additional cost to the standard fees. The Standard fee is 20.4% (including VAT) but if bidding via the virtual "Saleroom" the cost goes up by another 5.94% (including VAT). That would make a total of 26.34%

Modboy was being helpful and saying you could instead just ring the auctioneers and say "I'm willing to go up-to £xxx on lot no. 123. That way you save yourself the additional cost  and pay 20.4%.

Again, thanks to Modboy for the tip. 

It sounds like the Wessex Auctions are charging BUYERS less than many others auction houses which is good. But this isn't like ebay or John Manship where if you win an item for £100, you pay £100. If you bid say £100 you'll end up actually paying £120.40 with the lower rate or £126.34 with the higher rate.

All the best

KB

[Modboy1]

Once again Bo Diddley and Merve, Wessex Auctions commission if leaving a phone bid or bidding on the phone pr bidding live at the auction house, is only 17%  + VAT on this commission charge only, not on the final price of the item !!!, just to make it clearer on a £100.00 item you will pay around £120.00 at Wessex Auctions, while if bidding on the saleroom it will be nearer to £130.00.

And if bidding on The-Salesroom there is an addition charge.

Edited February 25, 2020 by Modboy1

[Bo Diddley]

34 minutes ago, Modboy1 said:

Once again Bo Diddley and Merve, Wessex Auctions commission if leaving a phone bid or bidding on the phone pr bidding live at the auction house, is only 17%  + VAT on this commission charge only, not on the final price of the item !!!, just to make it clearer on a £100.00 item you will pay around £120.00 at Wessex Auctions, while if bidding on the saleroom it will be nearer to £130.00.

And if bidding on The-Salesroom there is an addition charge.

Errrr......I think that's what I said! 

[Modboy1]

Yes, Bo Diddley, just trying to make clear that the VAT is not on the full amount of the item, but just on the auction house commission.

Edited February 26, 2020 by Modboy1

[Merve]

Thanks to Modboy1 & Bo Diddley - I get it now. THANKS

[Omega Auctions]

On 25/02/2020 at 15:14, Modboy1 said:

OK, here is the breakdown, if bidding through "the-salesroom" there is an addition of 4.95% on top of the auction house commission of 17%, which could be a lot on high end items, I always prefer to either bid live on the phone, or leave my top bid with the auction house, when you ring them to leave a bid with them they take your details and register you as buyer.

Wessex Auctions charge the lowest commission of any auction house in the UK at 17%,  and on most other auction houses it is normally 25%-30% (and higher at Christies or Sotheby’s), Omega Auctions charges 33.6% on items, nearly double that of Wessex Auctions !!!

Regarding postage, I would ring the auction house for a quote, it will probably be cheap for 1 single and will go up depending on size and weight.

Their packing is great as I bought records from them before.

I hope this answers all the questions above.

 

Just wanted to clarify buyer charges as the above post is a bit misleading.  

Wessex Auctions - in the room/phone: 17%+VAT (20.4% inclusive of VAT) Online bidding 21.95%+VAT (26.34% inclusive of VAT)

Omega Auctions - in the room/phone: 21%+VAT (25.2% inclusive of VAT) Online bidding (on own own site) 24%+VAT (28.8% inclusive of VAT)

As most people bid online, this means an additional 2.46% at Omega than at Wessex, so not double as the above post suggests.

Buyer charges are added to the hammer price so should be taken into account when bidding.

Cheers

[Julianb]

Just received the 45 purchased. Not an expensive record but bloody hell they charged £12 for p & p. Ok the registered bit is £7.80  ( I think) but it was in the cheapest box with no stiffeners.

Considering they  made approx 50% in selling  and buyers commission you'd have thought they could have done at cost.

Moan over

[Pomonkey]

Received a great acetate from this auction here in the US, spoke to them directly about how to package as knew they weren't too experienced with vinyl and they did a really solid job of making sure it got here safely, appreciate them listening.

[Modboy1]

Glad to hear Michael. Stay in touch.