Eddie Hughes or Don Hysung bard records soul searcher

[Rictic66]

In case you haven’t seen Steve Jeffries has a red Bard label copy of Eddie Hughes great Soul Searcher by the writer, Don Hysong on his site. It’s same backing and very similar to Bob and Fred’s Ill be on my way. Has anyone any info on them  it’s a small Detroit label not sure if related to Big Mack which released Bob and Fred  must be very rare - anyone heard either version played out  the Don Hysong one is poorer voice imho  

Here is link to EH. 

 

Edited October 20, 2022 by Rictic66

[Speedlimit]

Both were played out at the lifeline allnighter and other upfront venues several years back.  No way does this sound like Bob and Fred to my ears. Bob and Fred sounds more like a sidra production, hence why it was covered up as Ronnie and robyn. As for Eddie Hughes and Don hysong Eddie Hughes wins my vote sounding more soulful. 

[Soul-slider]

Just for reference here's a former discussion on the topic....

https://www.soul-source.co.uk/forums/topic/93163-soul-searcher-how-many-version-which-labels/

[Chalky]

1 hour ago, Speedlimit said:

Both were played out at the lifeline allnighter and other upfront venues several years back.  No way does this sound like Bob and Fred to my ears. Bob and Fred sounds more like a sidra production, hence why it was covered up as Ronnie and robyn. As for Eddie Hughes and Don hysong Eddie Hughes wins my vote sounding more soulful. 

I don’t hear Bob and Fred in it either, totally different to my cloth ears. 
 

Eddie Hughes played briefly by Pat mid 80s at Stafford.  Andy Dyson and Arthur Fenn as you say, think Kenny Burrell was playing Don’s take if memory serves, or was it Keith?

[Rictic66]

Great thanks - I did search but only found a short note by Chalky. Trust Mr Thorley to have found one even if it was the worst version. PT

[Chalky]

Eddie Hughes

[Robbk]

Clearly Hysong's version was just a demo for Eddie Hughes' commercial release.  I'm sure Hysong's being pressed up on Bard was just an extremely small "vanity" pressing.  I really doubt that more than 100 were pressed.  Back in the day, I remember seeing a reasonable number of The Eddy Hughes record both in Detroit and Chicago, but never saw the Don Hysong.  I really doubt that Bard thought they could get Hysong's played on Pop stations, and could sell it to Pop fans. 

Hughes' is great.  Hysong's wasn't commercial quality.  It's the songwriter giving his artist a not-very-good idea of how it should be sung, knowing Hughes would "spruce it up" and put a soulful take on it.

It pre-dates Billy Stewart's "I Do Love You", but has an extremely similar musical phrase in it.

 

 

[Rictic66]

I’m sure you’re right Rob on the demo and I agree on quality. Cheers. P

[Blackpoolsoul]

I wonder if this was him recently and is this him on facebook ?

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-fantastic-four-and-eddie-hughes-1129-at-pjs-lager-house-tickets-80600651719#

https://www.facebook.com/EugeneEHughes/

Edited December 17, 2019 by Blackpoolsoul

[Robbk]

6 minutes ago, Blackpoolsoul said:

I wonder if this was him recently and is this him on facebook ?

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-fantastic-four-and-eddie-hughes-1129-at-pjs-lager-house-tickets-80600651719#

https://www.facebook.com/EugeneEHughes/

I would guess that there is a very, very good chance, given that The Fantastic Four and he were all within a year or 2 in age, when they were singers in Detroit.  It was a small, tight community.  Everyone knew of everyone else in the business, and many of them were friends of many of the others.  Now they're appearing together in Detroit.  I would guess (and bet) this Eddy Hughes is the singer who recorded for Bard Records.

[Blackpoolsoul]

15 minutes ago, Robbk said:

I would guess that there is a very, very good chance, given that The Fantastic Four and he were all within a year or 2 in age, when they were singers in Detroit.  It was a small, tight community.  Everyone knew of everyone else in the business, and many of them were friends of many of the others.  Now they're appearing together in Detroit.  I would guess (and bet) this Eddy Hughes is the singer who recorded for Bard Records.

 

10 hours ago, Chalky said:

Eddie Hughes

I think Karl (unlike us) does facebook, so perhaps a message and if it is him we could find out (please Karl) and about the label etc. and if he has a 100 box in his cellar, I sold my copy a million years ago ........ why ?

Edited December 17, 2019 by Blackpoolsoul

[Chalky]

7 hours ago, Blackpoolsoul said:

I wonder if this was him recently and is this him on facebook ?

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-fantastic-four-and-eddie-hughes-1129-at-pjs-lager-house-tickets-80600651719#

https://www.facebook.com/EugeneEHughes/

I have asked and it isn’t the Eddie Hughes we are interested in. 

[Robbk]

3 hours ago, Chalky said:

I have asked and it isn’t the Eddie Hughes we are interested in. 

It stands to reason, as He looks way too young to have been even within 20 years of the 1964 singer.

[neckender]

On 16 December 2019 at 20:15, Chalky said:

I don’t hear Bob and Fred in it either, totally different to my cloth ears. 
 

Eddie Hughes played briefly by Pat mid 80s at Stafford.  Andy Dyson and Arthur Fenn as you say, think Kenny Burrell was playing Don’s take if memory serves, or was it Keith?

Eddie Hughes was my 'george lemons' c/u. from the late 80s.  Certainly didn't get played at Stafford.

[Chalky]

5 hours ago, neckender said:

Eddie Hughes was my 'george lemons' c/u. from the late 80s.  Certainly didn't get played at Stafford.

I didn't think it had but one or two swear it did and I asked Pat and he said he played it the odd time?

[Al Hughes]

On 16/12/2019 at 11:02, Rictic66 said:

In case you haven’t seen Steve Jeffries has a red Bard label copy of Eddie Hughes great Soul Searcher by the writer, Don Hysung on his site. It’s same backing and very similar to Bob and Fred’s Ill be on my way. Has anyone any info on them  it’s a small Detroit label not sure if related to Big Mack which released Bob and Fred  must be very rare - anyone heard either version played out  the Don Hysung one is poorer voice imho  

Here is link to EH. 

 

My name is Al Hughes and my stage name back in the 60"was Eddie Hughes. I am the singer on this Bard recording. You can here my new R &B music on my Website....al@alhughesmusic.com 

[Mike]

Welcome to Soul Source Al, great to read your words

Always enjoyed 'Soul Searcher'

Thanks for the info, have you a link to your site?

 

[Amsterdam Russ]

14 minutes ago, Mike said:

Thanks for the info, have you a link to your site?

 

It's in the email address Al posted: https://alhughesmusic.com

 

[Mike]

3 hours ago, Al Hughes said:

My name is Al Hughes and my stage name back in the 60"was Eddie Hughes. I am the singer on this Bard recording. You can here my new R &B music on my Website....al@alhughesmusic.com 

 

5 minutes ago, Amsterdam Russ said:

It's in the email address Al posted: https://alhughesmusic.com

 

ah yep, did try that but must have copied it wrong

nice one

[Tricky]

Take it or leave it Al Hughes on Scope?

[Robbk]

2 hours ago, TRICKY said:

Take it or leave it Al Hughes on Scope?

Yes, he was the same singer.  It's really hard to believe that Al ("Eddy"), with that deep, full, rich, and smooth-mature-sounding voice, was only 14 years old at the time he recorded "Soul Searcher", and only 16 or 17 when he recorded his Scope Records stomper.  But that's what he says, and he'd have no reason to pretend to have been younger.

Edited June 9, 2020 by Robbk

[Soul-slider]

Here's the other Don Hysong Bard 45 pic sleeve! 

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Edited June 10, 2020 by Soul-slider