Derek Pearson Posted July 8, 2019 Posted July 8, 2019 It's probably fair to say that most record collectors are perennial list makers (well I certainly am) and I wondered have we ever tried to make some sort of list within this forum of original singles from the sixties and seventies that were released on coloured vinyl? I'm no expert on the subject so I welcome any additions from other interested members on here. Label/record scans most appreciated. I'll kick off said list with this little beauty? The Commands "Don't be afraid to love me" (Dynamic) on yellow vinyl. (Seem to think years and years ago I used to have a copy of this but sold it on 'cos it was only VG+ or summat (doh!) Have got an orange issue with picture sleeve in Ex condition though). The Icemen "It's time you knew" (Ole-9) aren't there some copies of this on blue vinyl? Gloria Taylor "You got to pay the price" (Silver Fox) white label promos on blue vinyl (think I've got a copy tucked away somewhere under mi bed). Also have had several Tamla Motown 45's (American releases) over the years on coloured vinyl. Can't remember details off hand. The Professionals (Groove City) with the infamous 'one-off' gold vinyl copy. Anybody know the real story behind this 45? Derek 2
Chris Turnbull Posted July 8, 2019 Posted July 8, 2019 (edited) Philip James 'Wide awake in a dream' on red vinyl (Jamaican 'Soul' label) Edited July 8, 2019 by Chris Turnbull Photos didn't upload properly so amended 2 1
Guest Gogs Posted July 9, 2019 Posted July 9, 2019 The only coloured vinyl originals that i have are all (4) Bobby Patterson Jetstar demos with yellowish coloured vinyl.
Mgm 1251 Posted July 9, 2019 Posted July 9, 2019 (edited) I don’t have that many,but I do have this one....a great sound for the Summer months... ....and even this was outside the box(datewise).... Edited July 9, 2019 by MGM 1251 Add on 2
Vadnochka Posted July 9, 2019 Posted July 9, 2019 Had a very early orange plastic - Popeye the sailor man - on 78 - actually played it one night at the Fantasia as a joke. After Al Caliola & orchestra - Theme from Bonanza - instrumentals were still king in '72, actually had the floor jumping until it dawned on people what it actually was. Great start to my spot - and actually switched to Professionals - black vinyl not gold and night progressed from there.
Chalky Posted July 9, 2019 Posted July 9, 2019 20 hours ago, Derek Pearson said: It's probably fair to say that most record collectors are perennial list makers (well I certainly am) and I wondered have we ever tried to make some sort of list within this forum of original singles from the sixties and seventies that were released on coloured vinyl? I'm no expert on the subject so I welcome any additions from other interested members on here. Label/record scans most appreciated. I'll kick off said list with this little beauty? The Commands "Don't be afraid to love me" (Dynamic) on yellow vinyl. (Seem to think years and years ago I used to have a copy of this but sold it on 'cos it was only VG+ or summat (doh!) Have got an orange issue with picture sleeve in Ex condition though). The Icemen "It's time you knew" (Ole-9) aren't there some copies of this on blue vinyl? Gloria Taylor "You got to pay the price" (Silver Fox) white label promos on blue vinyl (think I've got a copy tucked away somewhere under mi bed). Also have had several Tamla Motown 45's (American releases) over the years on coloured vinyl. Can't remember details off hand. The Professionals (Groove City) with the infamous 'one-off' gold vinyl copy. Anybody know the real story behind this 45? Derek There are at least two gold copies of the Professionals. Robin Salter found one in I believe Ohio of all places. Think Tim Ashibende may have found the other.
Tlscapital Posted July 9, 2019 Posted July 9, 2019 (edited) Mhm although I am not a fan of colored vinyls (and/or styrene. Yes there are some colored out there but not 'see through' then), being more of a trad collector bloke choosing where I prefer my stockers and promos issues with more vigor (as I like to believe) regardless of rarity but more for my eyes pleasure, I always am amazed by them. Yes, I love my vinyl black... why don't you think about it... Say it loud ! (LOL) Those colored pressings are much harder to visualize in scrutiny. Black is indeed only a colorant added for better visualisation of the groove. Then there are those seemingly black but that are not when held behind a light source. Like some copies of Robert Portee 'Casanova' on Diamond or the Icemen on Ole-9... Still the Commands 'don't be afraid' looks amazing in yellow vinyl. The picture cover is priceless IMO. Their previous number 'hey it's love' c/w 'no time for you' had a red vinyl release as well for the promo as far as I remember. Fitted with a picture cover to die for as well. And those picture covers came with the stockers and promos alike. The Tonettes 'I gotta know' still on Dynamic (no picture sleep though (sic !)) had a red promo vinyl I remember seing. And I remember once seing pin on a collector's wall a copy of the Trips 'bring it back' c/w 'her comes those heartaches' on Victoria on a violet/mauve vinyl next to Dave Coleman 'down in the basement' on a pale blue/whitish styrene... Edited July 9, 2019 by Tlscapital
Tlscapital Posted July 11, 2019 Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, The Yank said: Yes the Dave Coleman 'down in the basement' on Togo copy I was referring to is indeed also one of those Bell/Amy/Mala printed on (plastic) styrene label... Edited July 11, 2019 by Tlscapital
Rick Cooper Posted July 11, 2019 Posted July 11, 2019 Long since gone but back in the late 70s I used to have a few Bobby Patterson yellow vinyl singles on Jetstar. I think they were all promos and at the time quite common yet no one has posted one up. Are they still around or have they disappeared in to dormant collections?
Tlscapital Posted July 11, 2019 Posted July 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, Rick Cooper said: Long since gone but back in the late 70s I used to have a few Bobby Patterson yellow vinyl singles on Jetstar. I think they were all promos and at the time quite common yet no one has posted one up. Are they still around or have they disappeared in to dormant collections? The colored vinyl Jetstar 45's are let's say "common". If a tad rarer than their black vinyl stockers counterparts, it's only by a thin margin. I believe to less common/known variations are the target for this topic... Like anything decent that use to float around, they just do not anymore indeed.
Guest Gogs Posted July 11, 2019 Posted July 11, 2019 5 hours ago, Rick Cooper said: Long since gone but back in the late 70s I used to have a few Bobby Patterson yellow vinyl singles on Jetstar. I think they were all promos and at the time quite common yet no one has posted one up. Are they still around or have they disappeared in to dormant collections? check my post from Tuesday at 17:20
Mal C Posted July 12, 2019 Posted July 12, 2019 The Electrodes on Fran /WD blue vinyl USA nice one, I’ve sold mine now but I’d live that over the yellow label issue...
Blackpoolsoul Posted July 12, 2019 Posted July 12, 2019 14 hours ago, Tlscapital said: The colored vinyl Jetstar 45's are let's say "common". If a tad rarer than their black vinyl stockers counterparts, it's only by a thin margin. I believe to less common/known variations are the target for this topic... Like anything decent that use to float around, they just do not anymore indeed. I forgot about these
Rick Cooper Posted July 12, 2019 Posted July 12, 2019 17 hours ago, gogs said: check my post from Tuesday at 17:20 Hi gogs Yes, saw it after I'd posted but how about some nice pics. Rick
Alan Bonthrone1 Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 (edited) 7 Edited July 13, 2019 by Alan Bonthrone1
Tlscapital Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 Just now, Alan Bonthrone1 said: That is some bootleg stuff that would bring the tread to other comments and proportions I am afraid. 1
Tlscapital Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 52 minutes ago, Alan Bonthrone1 said: Is it a bootleg? Oh yes it is. Likely done for the USA market (beach scene or else) and often presented as a rare red vinyl promo variation copy. Inducing it's a variant press but not claiming it is the real deal at the same time...
Chalky Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Tlscapital said: Oh yes it is. Likely done for the USA market (beach scene or else) and often presented as a rare red vinyl promo variation copy. Inducing it's a variant press but not claiming it is the real deal at the same time... what is the bootleg? looks like it has been removed
Tlscapital Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 20 minutes ago, Chalky said: what is the bootleg? looks like it has been removed The one in my quote here above Phil Flowers 'discontented' on a WDJ Dot with red vinyl. 1
Gaz T Posted July 17, 2019 Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) I am a record collector, I did take the time to join again tonight, but I am slowly loosing the will to live again. I have no idea how to upload a picture here I only wanted to post a picture of the king coleman on a blue 45 for you. It is a rare thing and a great cool mod rnb tune. "believe it or not" is the blue 45, unknown tune if it was not for the cd release and only a couple of blue 45s on popsike, a real gem. down in the basements are all black vinyl (blue and purple labels) and are fair easy , believe it or not is the really rare king coleman 45 imo. This is only my experience, if anyone has anything to add please do. Ill post a picture of the blue thing up later. Oh I also had a 60s issue of Willie Rosario Wobbly Blues on red vinyl on BMC 45 Not had any other Soul / RnB things apart from the Eddie Foster Boot I think they were usually vanity projects for the bands / singers / songwriters etc generally and that is why they are rare / unusual I have a couple of 60's coloured vinyls from Jamaica Gaz Edited July 17, 2019 by gaz t https://www.popsike.com/KING-COLEMANTHE-MASH-POTATO-MANBELIEVE-IT-OR-NOT-FUNKSOUL/163066300312.html
Gaz T Posted July 17, 2019 Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) https://www.popsike.com/KING-COLEMANTHE-MASH-POTATO-MANBELIEVE-IT-OR-NOT-FUNKSOUL/163066300312.html I cant work out how to upload photos here but there are two copys of this on popsike, one of them is mine, good luck to the other brother, well spotted !! its gone well under the radar as a thing to think about but its a fab mod tune, happy collecting !! believe it or not is the best side imo Top mod rnb from King and as far as I can see only 2 copys through internet without anyone seeing !! Edited July 17, 2019 by gaz t
Mike Posted July 17, 2019 Posted July 17, 2019 5 hours ago, gaz t said: I cant work out how to upload photos here Gaz, the 'new members' group doesn't have upload permissions, you are now in the members' group so you should now see the links to upload cheers mike
Gaz T Posted July 17, 2019 Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) Thanks Mike, I thought I was going crazy trying to work out how to upload So here is the blue King Coleman. An seriously rare 45 I believe and a cool Mod RnB tune too. Gaz Edited July 17, 2019 by gaz t 1
Popular Post Mick Holdsworth Posted July 17, 2019 Popular Post Posted July 17, 2019 Got this from a friend a few years back. He did have two copies, the other copy was a different colour, which he also sold. Maybe a bit hard to find, never heard of it before, but you never know. 3 1 1
Tlscapital Posted July 17, 2019 Posted July 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Mick Holdsworth said: Got this from a friend a few years back. He did have two copies, the other copy was a different colour, which he also sold Maybe a bit hard to find, never heard of it before, but you never know. Wow, never seen that before... What a piece that is ! 1
Sebastian Posted July 18, 2019 Posted July 18, 2019 On 17/07/2019 at 02:37, Gaz T said: I cant work out how to upload photos here but there are two copys of this on popsike, one of them is mine, good luck to the other brother, well spotted !! its gone well under the radar as a thing to think about but its a fab mod tune, happy collecting !! believe it or not is the best side imo Top mod rnb from King and as far as I can see only 2 copys through internet without anyone seeing !! Cool record, but not a particularly rare 45, there are currently 6 copies for sale on Discogs and a couple pass through ebay every year. His 45 on the Vi-Tose label is rare though, and the one on Big Apple is also scarce and was issued on dark red vinyl:
Blackpoolsoul Posted July 18, 2019 Posted July 18, 2019 Swiss Movement (my Wife says it ought to have been brown to match all the Swiss chocolates she loves ?????) 1
Gaz T Posted July 18, 2019 Posted July 18, 2019 @ Sebastian - your totally right, I never look at discogs ( I probably should shouldn't I ) I always check popsike and only ever saw the 2, so assumed it was a tricky 45. Still a fab tune !! Thanks Gaz
Chalky Posted July 18, 2019 Posted July 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Gaz T said: @ Sebastian - your totally right, I never look at discogs ( I probably should shouldn't I ) I always check popsike and only ever saw the 2, so assumed it was a tricky 45. Still a fab tune !! Thanks Gaz Popsike probably the most unreliable resource when checking prices, its the last place I check. At least discogs are actual set sales, yes the odd anomaly, take the extremes out and you can find an average. Many sellers no longer bother with Ebay.
Blackpoolsoul Posted July 18, 2019 Posted July 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Chalky said: Popsike probably the most unreliable resource when checking prices, its the last place I check. At least discogs are actual set sales, yes the odd anomaly, take the extremes out and you can find an average. Many sellers no longer bother with Ebay. I agree, however the problem is that Discogs and other sites who do average sales prices don't mention where in the world they were sold from and to and shipping is a cost as well to the value of a record purchase IMHO Example I sell single for £70 to Uk and shipping is £2.56 signed for and US is over £9.50 so price of purchase has shot up including shipping costs I would have thought that they could (with modern technology) give a true average price
Gaz T Posted July 19, 2019 Posted July 19, 2019 (edited) absolutely, the price of the post means you have to take that cost into the end thing. it matters on 15 pound tunes that now cost another 10 dollars to post no point in buying them anymore unless it something that is interesting Edited July 19, 2019 by Gaz T
Chalky Posted July 19, 2019 Posted July 19, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, Blackpoolsoul said: I agree, however the problem is that Discogs and other sites who do average sales prices don't mention where in the world they were sold from and to and shipping is a cost as well to the value of a record purchase IMHO Example I sell single for £70 to Uk and shipping is £2.56 signed for and US is over £9.50 so price of purchase has shot up including shipping costs I would have thought that they could (with modern technology) give a true average price No site factors shipping in, discogs is the best at giving you an average price as you can see the sales history. Anyway, this is digressing from the topic. Edited July 19, 2019 by Chalky
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