Popular Post Speedlimit Posted May 9, 2019 Popular Post Posted May 9, 2019 More madness how come this attains a price tag off £355 so far is beyond me . The world has definitely lost the plot . Second rate at best .never a massive fan of it . more garage than soul with hints of the rolling stones thrown in . 5
Blackpoolsoul Posted May 9, 2019 Posted May 9, 2019 2 hours ago, speedlimit said: More madness how come this attains a price tag off £355 so far is beyond me . The world has definitely lost the plot . Second rate at best .never a massive fan of it . more garage than soul with hints of the rolling stones thrown in . I agree They became this group and sort of did have some pedigree me thinks
Popular Post Winsford Soul Posted May 9, 2019 Popular Post Posted May 9, 2019 5 hours ago, speedlimit said: More madness how come this attains a price tag off £355 so far is beyond me . The world has definitely lost the plot . Second rate at best .never a massive fan of it . more garage than soul with hints of the rolling stones thrown in . Casino memories. I was lucky enough to own a original. I consider it a hard / rare record . but the Soul police would consider it white pop crap. If you where there you would understand. Steve 5 1
Patto Posted May 9, 2019 Posted May 9, 2019 Yeah real marmite record but one i have always loved.Been searching for an original for years but looks like its gone out of my price bracket now 2
Colnago Posted May 9, 2019 Posted May 9, 2019 What about the Mickie champion , wasn’t it north of £1000
Guest Shufflin Posted May 9, 2019 Posted May 9, 2019 6 hours ago, speedlimit said: more garage than soul with hints of the rolling stones thrown in 60's garage is a thing, this one would be very high up there for collectors of same
Winsford Soul Posted May 9, 2019 Posted May 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Patto said: Yeah real marmite record but one i have always loved.Been searching for an original for years but looks like its gone out of my price bracket now It really is rare on the original. Think I paid £120 for it about 15 years ago . So the price in today's market isn't that inflated . Good luck with the search Steve 3
Baz Atkinson Posted May 9, 2019 Posted May 9, 2019 Its tough imho never saw many back in the day and its a record that rarely turns up. Not my cup of tea but deffo a time piece etc,used to echo round the casino and in that place sounded bloody marvellous much like many of the other tracks of that nature that had that feel but lacked real soul content. PS There did go onto become the Ambassadors that cut that Pee Vee track another casino biggie as we know but not be confused with the Herley Johnsons Ambassadors that cut all those fab cuts on Arctic Atlantic etc. 3
Popular Post jimmy clitheroe Posted May 9, 2019 Popular Post Posted May 9, 2019 Always liked it along with Burning Bush / Wakefield Sun Etc 7
Popular Post Zed1 Posted May 9, 2019 Popular Post Posted May 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Winsford Soul said: Casino memories. I was lucky enough to own a original. I consider it a hard / rare record . but the Soul police would consider it white pop crap. If you where there you would understand. Steve Agreed Ste. Even 5 decades after the event people are still under the illusion that Northern Soul has to be performed by a Brother from the Ghetto.. 10
Kev John Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 Mine was given a rare outing @ The Big Wigan Weekender mini nighter Good Friday still gets a massive reaction now !!! Atb Kev 3
Guest Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 (edited) Are we sure it`s the same group i`m sure the Ambassadors, post 1964 were previously The 7 Dwarves. Edited May 10, 2019 by Guest
Blackpoolsoul Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Steve Lane said: Are we sure it`s the same group i`m sure the Ambassadors, post 1964 were previously The 7 Dwarves. My bad I I am wrong which tracks did the 7 Dwarves release. ?
The Yank Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 (edited) The 7 Dwarfs released "Stop Girl"/ "One By One" The Ambassadors put out "Too Much Of A Good Thing"/ "Whole Lotta Soul" and this 45 - Edited May 10, 2019 by The Yank 1
Guest Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, The Yank said: The 7 Dwarfs released "Stop Girl"/ "One By One" The Ambassadors put out "Too Much Of A Good Thing"/ "Whole Lotta Soul" and this 45 - Their name is mentioned in this article by their sax player. Edited May 11, 2019 by Guest
Blackpoolsoul Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 27 minutes ago, Steve Lane said: Their name is mentioned in this article but their sax player. Thanks goodness for that, my wife says I am always wrong and thankfully on this occasion......not
Dave Moore Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 The Fleet 45 is a great record and in my experience the tougher of all their records. Dave
Blackpoolsoul Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 30 minutes ago, Dave Moore said: The Fleet 45 is a great record and in my experience the tougher of all their records. Dave I agree Dave which side do you prefer....B side for me
Mal C Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 Love ‘too young for me’ took me ages to get a good one, loads of copies are such bad condition... great thread 1
Md Records Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 The flip of the Seven Dwarfs "One By One" is a cover of a "Blues Magoos" tune that came out in 1967, making this release after "Too Much Of A Good Thing"?
Ian Stacey Posted May 12, 2019 Posted May 12, 2019 On 09/05/2019 at 19:04, Winsford Soul said: Casino memories. I was lucky enough to own a original. I consider it a hard / rare record . but the Soul police would consider it white pop crap. If you where there you would understand. Steve brilliant Northern soul record i was there i get you buddy 3
Guest Posted May 12, 2019 Posted May 12, 2019 23 hours ago, Soul Inc said: The flip of the Seven Dwarfs "One By One" is a cover of a "Blues Magoos" tune that came out in 1967, making this release after "Too Much Of A Good Thing"? But they became The Ambassadors in 1964!
Sebastian Posted May 13, 2019 Posted May 13, 2019 On 11/05/2019 at 21:43, Soul Inc said: The flip of the Seven Dwarfs "One By One" is a cover of a "Blues Magoos" tune that came out in 1967, making this release after "Too Much Of A Good Thing"? Indeed. The "Stop Girl" 45 is from January 1968. 1
Popular Post Koolkat Posted May 13, 2019 Popular Post Posted May 13, 2019 On 09/05/2019 at 19:04, Winsford Soul said: Casino memories. I was lucky enough to own a original. I consider it a hard / rare record . but the Soul police would consider it white pop crap. If you where there you would understand. Steve Agree. Proper northern soul intro. Very infectious at 3am. 4
Wiggyflat Posted May 13, 2019 Posted May 13, 2019 This was a massive mod record around 1985...loads of copies about.I have a spare somewhere and i Know a few collections where it is Tucked away.
Winsford Soul Posted May 13, 2019 Posted May 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, wiggyflat said: This was a massive mod record around 1985...loads of copies about.I have a spare somewhere and i Know a few collections where it is Tucked away. Load of copies.!!! Bet they're mostly boots. Can't remember the last time I saw one for sale. Steve
Russoul1 Posted May 13, 2019 Posted May 13, 2019 love it!! a real classic from my youth. managed to pick up a original copy with a off centre label reminds me of a fried egg when going round on the decks 2
Bruv Posted May 14, 2019 Posted May 14, 2019 The copy John Manship has up on this Wednesday's Auction has cleared 400 sheets now be interesting what it ends on...
Douglas Posted May 14, 2019 Posted May 14, 2019 I bought a minter about 5 years ago for £125, sold it in a collection to Chris Anderton who later sold it for £125 as well. 1
Tomangoes Posted May 14, 2019 Posted May 14, 2019 Stop girl was a 5 or 6 week wonder.... They were ALL 5 or 6 week wonders back in the day because there were so many like this getting found. Hardly a classic but bound to be rare ish...as they probably only sold a few hundred at most. Most of the ones we got were from the US warehouse raiders like soul bowl. Ed 2
Popular Post Zed1 Posted May 14, 2019 Popular Post Posted May 14, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tomangoes said: Stop girl was a 5 or 6 week wonder.... They were ALL 5 or 6 week wonders back in the day because there were so many like this getting found. I think it's all to easy to forget this on Today's stagnant scene. Back then you missed a couple of Niters and the playlist had completely changed. Stop Girl is a fantastic Dance floor Track for what, after all is a Dance floor based scene. .... whatever silly label people insist on sticking on it, and every other track in it's History. Edited May 14, 2019 by Zed1 5
Tomangoes Posted May 14, 2019 Posted May 14, 2019 Always thought it was a copy cat of The rolling Stones version of satisfaction.... Definitely a lot more Northern than Soul. Indeed it was a production line back in the 70s but not all of it has stood the test of time. Ed 1
Guest Spain pete Posted May 14, 2019 Posted May 14, 2019 Rarerity rules when it comes to second rate conveyer belt records it would have been hard to keep this one in the old noddle ( unless you are a stones fan ) TSWONS
Koolkat Posted May 15, 2019 Posted May 15, 2019 See,.... If this had been recorded by someone else say.....Paul Sindab......it would have been accepted different. Punter 1......Have you heard that new sound that Dj x has found by Paul Sindab on Ideal? Punter 2......No. What's it like? Punter 1......Superb. It's gonna go massive. It's proper rare too.
Tomangoes Posted May 15, 2019 Posted May 15, 2019 It got played, it got danced to, it's got history, on a small label like this and it bombed on first release, so it's going to be rare. However, it's personal choice whether it's quality or not. Just because it's all those things above should not make it more likeable, but will probably make it more collectable to rare Northern Soul record collectors. £500 would buy a lot of quality less rare originals, but to some folks that's irrelevant. Ed 1
Bruv Posted May 15, 2019 Posted May 15, 2019 On 14/05/2019 at 16:46, Bruv said: The copy John Manship has up on this Wednesday's Auction has cleared 400 sheets now be interesting what it ends on... 7 Dwarfs - Stop Girl original on John's Auction ended on £530 with 26 Bids... 1
Frankie Crocker Posted May 15, 2019 Posted May 15, 2019 So, why no credit for Snow White on lead vocals? Maybe Warwick Davis is bidding for the thing as he likes small records? Amazed this record is even worth a serious mention. Definitely a Guilty Pleasure. Never heard it played out. Do not anticipate ever hearing it in public. Some really bad records were played at Wigan but that’s no justification for reviving them. Actually, pleased that someone likes the record sufficiently to want to buy it. 1
Popular Post Winsford Soul Posted May 15, 2019 Popular Post Posted May 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Frankie Crocker said: So, why no credit for Snow White on lead vocals? Maybe Warwick Davis is bidding for the thing as he likes small records? Amazed this record is even worth a serious mention. Definitely a Guilty Pleasure. Never heard it played out. Do not anticipate ever hearing it in public. Some really bad records were played at Wigan but that’s no justification for reviving them. Actually, pleased that someone likes the record sufficiently to want to buy it. I used to play it out at various nighters . Middleton, Sheridans. Winsford. Morecambe, Bretby, Leicester, Rugby , countless soul nights and always to a great reaction. Steve 4
Chalky Posted May 15, 2019 Posted May 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Frankie Crocker said: So, why no credit for Snow White on lead vocals? Maybe Warwick Davis is bidding for the thing as he likes small records? Amazed this record is even worth a serious mention. Definitely a Guilty Pleasure. Never heard it played out. Do not anticipate ever hearing it in public. Some really bad records were played at Wigan but that’s no justification for reviving them. Actually, pleased that someone likes the record sufficiently to want to buy it. People will revive them purely cause it is a tough record to find and cost a few bob. 2
Billywhizz Posted May 15, 2019 Posted May 15, 2019 spot on chalky , late 70s 2, pounds 50 pence ,still got it ,play this out Dark horses, june 1st , coming , x
Kev John Posted May 16, 2019 Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) Well this 1 has gone Darren Browns site £350 vg+ https://www.raresoul45s.co.uk/7-dwarfs/a/23371/?page=1 ....& here's my copy Flexi vinyl & JM says when will another copy turn up like the condition he just sold ? ..... Edited May 16, 2019 by Kev John Just added my original copy
Winsford Soul Posted May 16, 2019 Posted May 16, 2019 40 minutes ago, Kev John said: Well this 1 has gone Darren Browns site £350 vg+ https://www.raresoul45s.co.uk/7-dwarfs/a/23371/?page=1 ....& here's my copy & JM says when will another copy turn up like the condition he just sold ? ..... He says that quite often. Steve 1
Patto Posted May 16, 2019 Posted May 16, 2019 Well i hope a few more come out of the woodwork cause im still after a copy.I think more will surface and hopefully prices will go back to sanity levels.If they dont ill have to give up the chase and spend my dosh on yet another want 1
Soul-slider Posted May 19, 2019 Posted May 19, 2019 (edited) And here they are.... There was a discussion on here about these and The Ambassadors on Pee Vee, one or 2 members were in both groups at one time or another, the main one being Rick Reardon. Some info here, sax player for Ambassadors say's they were the Seven Dwarfs... https://soulstrutter.blogspot.com/search/label/Ambassadors Edited May 19, 2019 by Soul-Slider 2
Mike Posted May 19, 2019 Posted May 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Soul-Slider said: And here they are.... There was a discussion on here about these and The Ambassadors on Pee Vee, one or 2 members were in both groups at one time or another, the main one being Rick Reardon. Some info here, sax player for Ambassadors say's they were the Seven Dwarfs... https://soulstrutter.blogspot.com/search/label/Ambassadors talk about going the long way round the article linked to says Quote Found another posting @ SoulSource (visit site for full story) from the sax player: https://www.soul-source.co.uk/articles/soul-articles/milton-wright-and-ambassadors-background-snips-r1837/ 2
Soulwolf Posted May 20, 2019 Posted May 20, 2019 There’s a copy of Stop Girl for sale on the latest Anglo American Sales List - £200 M- 1
Patto Posted May 20, 2019 Posted May 20, 2019 38 minutes ago, soulwolf said: There’s a copy of Stop Girl for sale on the latest Anglo American Sales List - £200 M- Thanks mate ive sent him an e mail to reserve it hope i have nailed it finally
Guest Posted May 20, 2019 Posted May 20, 2019 18 hours ago, Mike said: talk about going the long way round the article linked to says https://www.soul-source.co.uk/articles/soul-articles/milton-wright-and-ambassadors-background-snips-r1837/ And here`s where it gets a tad confusing. If the Seven Dwarfs - Stop Girl is a 1968 record, what`s with this quote? I’m the sax man from the Ambassadors. That’s the Ambassadors from Lancaster, Pennsylvania, about 60 miles northwest of Philadelphia. The group started as the Seven Dwarves. In 1964, they added two horns–a trumpet and a sax, very unusual for the time–and became the Ambassadors. I know both are definitely blue-eyed soul groups but could this be a different group? Personally I think both Stop Girl & Too Much are outright rubbish 45s but that`s only my opinion.
Soul-slider Posted May 20, 2019 Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) All I know is, Rick Reardon appeared in both groups. See bottom credits on Ambassadors 'B' side for vocals... 7 Dwarfs - Sharon Herr(also on Keyboards),Rick Reardon,Ronnie Keene,John Helm and Jerry Ransing and with band members Denny Groff on guitar and Charlie Evans in Percussion. Ambassadors - Bill Parmer (bass), Bobby Bitts. (drummer), Bob Weaver and Mike Sultzbach (sax), Tony Purcell (trumpet), Don Hodgen & Rick Reardon (vocals), Burton (piano), Eric Spitzer (guitar). Edited May 20, 2019 by Soul-Slider
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