Entertainers on HMC

[Ficklefingers]

I'm looking for info on the Entertainers 45 release of 'I'm In Love With You / Hot On A Thang' (HMC Records UR3991)

Looking on Discogs it shows two different label designs, with both using the same catalogue number..

Do any of you fine knowledgeable folk know if one is a later repress, or maybe pressed at a different plant?

Thank you in advance for your valued input

Fingers

[John Reed]

I think they were pressed around the same time.  I remember John Manship talking about the rare scroll design and then I've also heard other dealers talking about the rare straight line design.  So it could be just different plants, but it does look like the later releases from 1984 have the non scroll design.

Edited November 29, 2018 by John Reed

[Kegsy]

1 hour ago, John Reed said:

I think they were pressed around the same time.  I remember John Manship talking about the rare scroll design and then I've also heard other dealers talking about the rare straight line design.  So it could be just different plants, but it does look like the later releases from 1984 have the non scroll design.

What do you mean "scroll" design. Larger HMC script or smaller HMC in a shape that looks a bit like the top of a juke box.

Edited November 29, 2018 by Kegsy

[John Reed]

The straight one I referred to was called the jukebox design.  I'm sure the other layout was referred to by John Manship as the scroll design.

[Kegsy]

13 hours ago, John Reed said:

The straight one I referred to was called the jukebox design.  I'm sure the other layout was referred to by John Manship as the scroll design.

Cheers, I've had loads of these, all were scroll design, never seen a juke box style copy, hope that helps the OP.

[Ficklefingers]

Thanks for all input thus far - and an enquiry on behalf of my brother in law, and who has since been offered a copy at a reasonable price

[Kjw]

Always thought this to be the first press -

[Ficklefingers]

Thanks for posting Keith, but thats confused me even more now as the pics on discogs show that particular label design to be a different colour entirely!!

[Kjw]

2 hours ago, FickleFingers said:

Thanks for posting Keith, but thats confused me even more now as the pics on discogs show that particular label design to be a different colour entirely!!

That's just how the scan on Discogs has come out - both releases have light blue labels

[Ficklefingers]

Aahh.. That explains that one then - thanks again Keith

[Kjw]

15 minutes ago, FickleFingers said:

Aahh.. That explains that one then - thanks again Keith

I'm not Keith

 

[Garethx]

On 30/11/2018 at 12:59, kjw said:

Always thought this to be the first press -

This is the original. The other label design is a definite repress. 

[Ficklefingers]

4 hours ago, kjw said:

I'm not Keith

 

You are now!! lol

My apologies kjw

[Tlscapital]

3 hours ago, garethx said:

This is the original. The other label design is a definite repress. 

Mmh, I can't be definite but unless this HMC was the first release (1983-4) for the label, the 'Juke Box' design is the adopted design for all the other releases of the label 7" and LP's alike. Couldn't find a coherent discography and their catalogue numbering system is rather of the confusing kind.

And this is supposed to be from 1978 ...

Now couldn't the "scroll" design be a much later re-issue done to supply a new demand if ever ? NC labels use to do that a lot. Some even almost continuously. The "scroll" design used the same stampers for the label credentials. Only the logo changes. Likely done at the same pressing plant.

[Kegsy]

1 hour ago, tlscapital said:

Mmh, I can't be definite but unless this HMC was the first release (1983-4) for the label, the 'Juke Box' design is the adopted design for all the other releases of the label 7" and LP's alike.

How about this ?

https://www.discogs.com/The-Embers-Cool-Me-Out-Fool-In-Love/release/8780662

[Tlscapital]

5 hours ago, Kegsy said:

How about this ?

https://www.discogs.com/The-Embers-Cool-Me-Out-Fool-In-Love/release/8780662

?

Edited December 2, 2018 by tlscapital