Gloria Barnes Uptown orginal lp

[David Moore]

I have an orginal copy of Gloria  Barnes s Uptown album bought it at Tiffany s Newcastle under  Lyme in the 70 s. Does  anyone have any idea how much it might be worth

[John Reed]

about a grand

[Rich B]

I've got one without the proper picture sleeve - any thoughts on its value anyone?

Edited November 4, 2018 by Rich B

[Jim G]

One for auction on JM right now

[David Moore]

Uptown lp Gloria Barnes sold on manship today for £596 fantastic price 

[David Moore]

P s it was nt my copy

[Stateside]

Only just seen this thread.

I've had my copy since 1974 and I expected it to go for more than that on JM's auction site. Depends on who sees it at the time I suppose.

Popsike shows them fetching £1000 + in 2014.

Do you think the value has gone down with the re-issue and cd coming out?

I would sell mine but I'd want more than JM got for it

 

Kev

 

Edited March 1, 2019 by stateside

[Blackpoolsoul]

1 hour ago, stateside said:

Only just seen this thread.

I've had my copy since 1974 and I expected it to go for more than that on JM's auction site. Depends on who sees it at the time I suppose.

Popsike shows them fetching £1000 + in 2014.

Do you think the value has gone down with the re-issue and cd coming out?

I would sell mine but I'd want more than JM got for it

 

Kev

 

Re-issues often knock the price and sometimes it works the other way. Where LP's are concerned, it's more about LP collectors who are often a different type of buyer to DJ's.

LP collectors often want the original to "slot" and DJ's may pay big bucks, if there is/are an "Indemand" track/tracks only available on an LP ......supply and demand always works but this LP has 2 markets potentially

Edited March 1, 2019 by Blackpoolsoul
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[David Moore]

I bought this album in the seventies just to get you don t mean it  before I realised there was  a single  djs probably only want the single and the re issue will effect  the price  e.g. I would buy the cheaper format now as it's the music  i m interested in not what label it's on 

[Tomangoes]

Are Gloria and Towanda one and the same?

Is the A&M issue a reissue?

Ed

[Paul R]

The Gloria and Towanda tunes are different versions/mixes aren't they?

Paul

[Micksmix]

Bought mine from Soul Bowl early 90s for £40 and sold with a heavy heart late 90s for what I thought then was a good price £250.The album version is a faster,slightly messier IMO mix to the 45,still got the white demo 45.Great memories from the early days at Wigan and The Mecca!! 

[Blackpoolsoul]

The single was "restored and remastered at The Carvery in London"

https://carverycuts.com/home/

[Chalky]

50 minutes ago, Paul r said:

The Gloria and Towanda tunes are different versions/mixes aren't they?

Paul

The Gloria is a boot taken from the Lp if I remember rightly

[David Moore]

Gloria and Towanda  Barnes are the same singer though the lp version is a different recording/mix  from the single on A & M  I think the A & M is an original perhaps someone who knows for sure could tell us

[Blackpoolsoul]

4 minutes ago, David Moore said:

Gloria and Towanda  Barnes are the same singer though the lp version is a different recording/mix  from the single on A & M  I think the A & M is an original perhaps someone who knows for sure could tell us

The single was 1969 and the LP 1971

[Blackpoolsoul]

29 minutes ago, chalky said:

The Gloria is a boot taken from the Lp if I remember rightly

Discogs has it as fully licensed ?

[Micksmix]

2 minutes ago, David Moore said:

Gloria and Towanda  Barnes are the same singer though the lp version is a different recording/mix  from the single on A & M  I think the A & M is an original perhaps someone who knows for sure could tell us

I think that's established it's the same singer.The sleeve notes credit Gloria "Tiwanda" Barnes .I would guess the album version came first? 

[Blackpoolsoul]

3 minutes ago, micksmix said:

I think that's established it's the same singer.The sleeve notes credit Gloria "Tiwanda" Barnes .I would guess the album version came first? 

Again  The single was 1969 and the LP 1971

[Blackpoolsoul]

 

[Micksmix]

Just now, Blackpoolsoul said:

Again  The single was 1969 and the LP 1971

Yeah just seen that on 45 cat,always thought it was 70/71 still love both versions whatever the vintage

[Chalky]

15 minutes ago, Blackpoolsoul said:

Discogs has it as fully licensed ?

Discogs isn't always right

 

[Blackpoolsoul]

1 hour ago, chalky said:

Discogs isn't always right

 

 that's what my wife says about me:)

[Ted Massey]

I’ll call you back later is bloody fantastic 

[Tomangoes]

21 hours ago, Blackpoolsoul said:

 

Simply it is unique.

It reaches the parts other tunes can't reach.

Bugger to dance to though. 

Priceless.

Ed

[Tomangoes]

On the subject is this towanda/tiwinda/gloria on vocals?

Could be based on the same record, truth be told!

 

[Stateside]

On 02/03/2019 at 19:09, tomangoes said:

On the subject is this towanda/tiwinda/gloria on vocals?

Could be based on the same record, truth be told!

 

How's this for a curved ball  I bought this a few years back ......just in case. Someone did say it was legit, but not sure about that.

Anyway, I've always thought it was Gloria on vocals and the Ohio Players' are featured on her album so it would seem safe to make 2+2 = 4. When you listen to the vocals it definitely sounds like her.

 

Kev

Edited March 4, 2019 by stateside

[Chalky]

2 minutes ago, stateside said:

How's this for a curved ball  I bought this a few years back ......just in case. Someone did say it was legit, but not sure about that.

Anyway, I've always thought it was Gloria on vocals and the Ohio Players' are featured on her album so it would seem safe to make 2+2 = 4. When you listen to the vocals it definitely sounds like her.

 

Kev

That is certainly a boot, its the Lp.  I thought this was the one Blackpoolsoul was referring to?

[Stateside]

19 minutes ago, chalky said:

That is certainly a boot, its the Lp.  I thought this was the one Blackpoolsoul was referring to?

It was always an album track, but whoever is behind Jo_Mar did this too.  Not sure why anyone would want to boot this!

Are there anymore tracks on this label?

[Philt]

On 21/11/2018 at 22:41, David Moore said:

Uptown lp Gloria Barnes sold on manship today for £596 fantastic price 

May be just me but I get the impression that prices per se may just have begun to find slightly more realistic levels.

I also see things hanging around unsold / re-listed which would no doubt have gone very quickly a couple or so years ago.

 

[Micksmix]

On 01/03/2019 at 21:12, Blackpoolsoul said:

Again  The single was 1969 and the LP 1971

Yeah just seen that on 45 cat,always thought it was 70/71 still love both versions whatever the vintage

Thoughts on this version???

 

[Blackpoolsoul]

41 minutes ago, chalky said:

That is certainly a boot, its the Lp.  I thought this was the one Blackpoolsoul was referring to?

I was referring to the Suncut one in the You Tube video

[Tomangoes]

23 minutes ago, micksmix said:

Yeah just seen that on 45 cat,always thought it was 70/71 still love both versions whatever the vintage

Thoughts on this version???

 

Not bad, but not in Towanda class. Lucinda is a bit too polished on this song, but I've heard others by her that pack a bit more emotion.

Ed

[Micksmix]

16 minutes ago, tomangoes said:

Not bad, but not in Towanda class. Lucinda is a bit too polished on this song, but I've heard others by her that pack a bit more emotion.

Ed

Yeah quite like it,but not a patch on Towanda,different though!!

[Guest Shufflin]

2 hours ago, PhilT said:

I also see things hanging around unsold / re-listed which would no doubt have gone very quickly a couple or so years ago

Beggin' was auctioned on JM last week, went for £116, so that's not a sign of prices finding slightly more realistic levels, that's a record at the cheap end

which ones are you thinking of?

[Philt]

 You can’t legislate for absolute nutters though can you.

Top of my head, Soul Set, Frankie and Damons and several others I’ve clocked of late. Might just be me as I say. 

Edited March 4, 2019 by PhilT

[Chalky]

8 hours ago, PhilT said:

 You can’t legislate for absolute nutters though can you.

Top of my head, Soul Set, Frankie and Damons and several others I’ve clocked of late. Might just be me as I say. 

 

I’ve noticed a fair bit of levelling off the last couple of years for certain stuff, more high end stuff.  Although some lower end stuff is fetching more than it shoud be.  The whole market is still totally skewered price wise mind. 

[Chalky]

12 hours ago, micksmix said:

Yeah just seen that on 45 cat,always thought it was 70/71 still love both versions whatever the vintage

Thoughts on this version???

 

 

Towanda/Gloria, you can hear the hurt and anger, not just in the vocals but the backing too.  This is just too...well , nice if you get my drift. 

Edited March 5, 2019 by chalky

[Shinehead]

5 hours ago, chalky said:

 

Towanda/Gloria, you can hear the hurt and anger, not just in the vocals but the backing too.  This is just too...well , nice if you get my drift. 

Totally agree Chalky , Towanda/Gloria really spew the lyrics out with angst , The Ohio Players version also lacks that certain something it just seems to be going through the motions.