This old heart of mine (is weak for you) - 1965?

[Guest Sliced Tomanogoe]

I wonder if the good folks at SS could help me with a small query:

 

I'm in the arduous tasks if noting my singles in some form of catalogue which now I've started I'll finish - I have come across the classic Isley Brother's number to find it is labelled (clearly) as 1965, I was sure it was recorded in '66. I've checked discogs and the earliest on there is '66 also, although it being January of '66.

 

Why would a label state a year (or perhaps a month!) Earlier? 

 

Any replies or ideas are much appreciated. 

 

Dave. 

[Chalky]

From DFTMC.....

 

This Old Heart Of Mine (Is Weak For You) (Brian Holland-Lamont Dozier-Edward Holland Jr-Sylvia Moy) published Jobete 05-Jan-66

alt title: Don't Throw My Love Away

The Isley Brothers; recorded Hitsville, completed 01-Dec-65 ; produced by Brian Holland, Lamont Dozier ; [2nd odb]

28-Jan-66; 45 (M): Tamla T 54128 A [2nd pressing]
28-Jan-66; 45 (M): Tamla T 54128 A [1st pressing]
May-66; LP (S): Tamla S269 This Old Heart Of Mine
May-66; LP (M): Tamla T269 This Old Heart Of Mine
Jan-67; LP (M): Motown M655 A Collection Of 16 Original Big Hits Vol. 6
Jan-67; LP (S): Motown S655 A Collection Of 16 Original Big Hits Vol. 6
Apr-69; LP (S): Tamla S287 Doin' Their Thing
Oct-70; LP (E): Starline SRS5043 Isley Brothers Greatest Hits
Oct-70; LP (S): Motown MS715 Motown Chartbusters Volume 2
26-Feb-91; CD (M): Motown MOTD 5483 Greatest Hits And Rare Classics
01-Jul-91; CD (S): Motown MOTD 5453 A Collection Of 16 Original Big Hits Vol. 6
03-Nov-92; CD (M): Motown MOTD 6312 Hitsville USA The Motown Singles Collection 1959-1971
22-Jul-96; CD (S): Spectrum 552 122 2 Early Classics [UK]
1997; CD (S): Britannia 530 704 Motown: The History: Movin' On Up [UK]
1997; CD (M): DPSM 5238 The Complete Motown Anthology Vol 2
02-Nov-98; CD (S): Spectrum 554 146 2 Motown Chartbusters Volume 3 [UK]
17-Jul-00; CD (S): Spectrum 544 280 2 Tamla Motown Big Hits And Hard To Find Classics Volume 3 [UK]
Jan-01; CD (S): Singing Machine G8855 Motown Classics - Let's Get It On Vol. 5
Jan-01; CD (S): Singing Machine G8855 Motown Classics - Let's Get It On Vol. 5 [band track]
11-Nov-02; CD (S): Motown 017 190 2 This Old Heart Of Mine / Soul On The Rocks [UK]
27-Jul-05; CD (S): Reader's Digest RDCD 4621-3 The Ultimate Motown Collection - The Sixties
03-Aug-05; CD (S): Shout B0004999-02 The Motown Box [alt stereo mix]
24-Nov-06; CD (M): Hip-O Select B0007872-02 The Complete Motown Singles Vol. 6 1966 [alt mix]
24-Nov-06; CD (M): Hip-O Select B0007872-02 The Complete Motown Singles Vol. 6 1966
21-Sep-09; CD (M): Motown 532 1498 The Motown Anthology [alt version from TCMS6] [UK]
21-Sep-09; CD (S): Motown 532 1498 The Motown Anthology [mono LP mix] [UK]

The Supremes; recorded L.A., completed 20-Apr-66 ; produced by Hal Davis, Marc Gordon ; [1st odb]

28-Apr-17; CD (S): Motown 602557 486704 A' Go-Go (Expanded Edition) [2017 mix]

The Supremes; recorded L.A. / Hitsville, completed 13-May-66 ; produced by Hal Davis, Marc Gordon ; [2nd odb]

Aug-66; LP (S): Motown S649 A' Go-Go
Aug-66; LP (M): Motown M649 A' Go-Go
Sep-85; LP: Motown 5371 Sing Motown
23-Oct-00; CD (S): Motown 159 508 2 Love Child / Supremes A Go-Go [UK]
11-Dec-01; CD (M): Motown 016 409 2 Anthology
28-Apr-17; CD (S): Motown 602557 486704 A' Go-Go (Expanded Edition)
28-Apr-17; CD (M): Motown 602557 486704 A' Go-Go (Expanded Edition)

Tammi Terrell; recorded Hitsville-GW, completed 14-Sep-67 ; produced by Brian Holland, Lamont Dozier

06-Dec-68; 45 (M): Motown M 1138 A
Jan-69; LP (S): Motown S652 Irresistible
1991; CD (S): Motown MOTD 5231 Irresistible
1997; CD (S): Britannia 530 710 Motown: The History: Changing Times [UK]
23-Mar-98; CD (S): Debutante 530 814 2 This Is Northern Soul! Volume 2 [UK]
16-Jul-01; CD (S): Spectrum 544 491 2 The Essential Collection [UK]
02-May-05; CD (S): Motown 067 024 2 This Is Northern Soul! The Motown Sound Volume 1 [UK]
03-Oct-07; CD (M): Hip-O Select B0009708-02 The Complete Motown Singles Vol. 8 1968
01-Oct-10; CD (S): Hip-O Select B0014792-02 Come On And See Me: The Complete Solo Collection

[Chalky]

Recorded Dec 1965, published Jan 66. 

[Guest Sliced Tomanogoe]

Ah lovely, thanks Chalky. This must a be common cross over of year between recording and publishing - I have just never noticed before!

[Chalky]

Three dates to consider, recording, publishing and its initial release date. 

[The Yank]

According to "The Motown Singles- Vol 6- 1966", the track was recorded September 22, 1965 and assigned to Kim Weston. 

The Isleys vocals were overdubbed on December 1, 1965.

 

[Chalky]

2 minutes ago, the yank said:

According to "The Motown Singles- Vol 6- 1966", the track was recorded September 22, 1965 and assigned to Kim Weston. 

The Isleys vocals were overdubbed on December 1, 1965.

 

The info I posted is from Don’t Forget The Motor City, didn’t they havevaccess to all the files at Motown?  No sign of any Kim Weston recording. 

[The Yank]

I don't know about DFTMC having access to all the files.  Not sure what "assigned " means either- it could mean they wanted her to record it 

but that doesn't mean she went in the studio and actually did. The song was also considered for the Four Tops but they were on tour in Europe.

Lamont Dozier remembers the Isleys were begging HDH for songs. I guess it all turned out well in the end . 

[Rob Moss]

Sylvia Moy wrote the lyrics but is never credited on record labels.

[The Yank]

By the time Tammi got to the song, Sylvia did get credit for her contribution-