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Love this track but always wondered why Charles didn’t go for it earlier in the song, that last 40 or so seconds just hints at another level, and it finishes....  still I would not sell it 🙂 

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Was  a Shrewsbury collective (Modern Soul pioneers) discovery. They took a copy to Wigan and Soul Sam played it as his last record of his spot before Pat Brady took over(this was its 1st play at a Nor

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One of my all time favourites so whomever it was i am eternally grateful.

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It was a mecca sound.

I heard it from a sales tape around 77 along with Marvin Sease, The Heartstoppers, fifth amendment etc.

Bought the lot.......sold them all ten years later.

Ed

 

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It was a mecca sound.

I heard it from a sales tape around 77 along with Marvin Sease, The Heartstoppers, fifth amendment etc.

Bought the lot.......sold them all ten years later.

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It was a 80s release I'm sure it was 1980 or 81 Richard Searling played it final year at Wigan Cas ?

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El Corol Long Time

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I think Searling did play it first at Wigan (?) but it was massive at Clifton Hall and there were quite a few copies about at that point (£4 a pop at the time)

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Graham Warr had 50 copies in his shop at the Oasis in brum, it was a massive seller for the other side and the Diskery in brum also had multiple copies for sale too,  not a rare record at all but one collectors like to keep. Still think "Baby I cried" is the best side though :)

 

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My copy was purchased at the casino  £4....(although I didn't buy it ... my mate bought it ,who I got it off later) course it was definitely played at WC.... both sides are fabulous to my ears.... I did put a thread up a few months ago regarding CJ.. someone kindly added the you tube clip I was referring to a group performing 'disco inferno with a Charles Johnson on lead.... to my ears it could be the same guy on the clip.... 

Dave L 

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  On 25/06/2018 at 11:39, chalky said:

I was thinking that is was never a hard record to find with 100s of copies about over the years, they were all over in the 80s. 

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They are about but they ain't cheap. One of my top ten early 80's dancers. It was massive at Clifton Hall - I don't really associate any one DJ with it - it was a big spin for many.

 

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They are about but they ain't cheap. One of my top ten early 80's dancers. It was massive at Clifton Hall - I don't really associate any one DJ with it - it was a big spin for many.

 

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Gotta agree Pete it probably went to another level at Clifton Hall... 

Dave 

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My copy was purchased at the casino  £4....(although I didn't buy it ... my mate bought it ,who I got it off later) course it was definitely played at WC.... both sides are fabulous to my ears.... I did put a thread up a few months ago regarding CJ.. someone kindly added the you tube clip I was referring to a group performing 'disco inferno with a Charles Johnson on lead.... to my ears it could be the same guy on the clip.... 

Dave L 

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It was with the Platters, it was on that BBC show about disc too


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I suspect that it was Richard working on the basis that this moody album was pretty much Richards play list at late Wigan.

WFON FM All Night Long with

 

Willie G & the Styles — No second chance (Deadbeats)
Bobby Jason — All these things (William Powell)
James Lewis — That’s the way (The Q)
Professionals - That's why
Court Davis — The lover who loves you not (Try to think what you're doing)
Seven Souls - I still
John & Weirdest — Memories
Ty Karim - Lighten up

Cheryl Berdell
Doug Parkinson
Jan Jones
Charles Johnson
Tyrone Barkley
Otis Clay
James Mack - Over the top (Roy Dawson)          

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  On 25/06/2018 at 12:18, chalky said:

Every possibility! There is similarities although I’m listening on ipad. 

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Yeh Chalky ... he has the voice and to consider it looks or sounds live singing you can understand him sounding a little different plus it's old clip.... I hope it's him as I've wondered what he looked like since the day I first heard him (as you do)😁😁

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Love this track but always wondered why Charles didn’t go for it earlier in the song, that last 40 or so seconds just hints at another level, and it finishes.... 

still I would not sell it 🙂 

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  On 25/06/2018 at 13:34, Mal C said:

Love this track but always wondered why Charles didn’t go for it earlier in the song, that last 40 or so seconds just hints at another level, and it finishes.... 

still I would not sell it 🙂 

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Always save the best till last Mal.

Ows yer feet bearing up mate?

Pete

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WFON FM All Night Long - believe it came from someone up on Rivington Pike* : )

Dx

PS *According to Mr Co(c)kell.

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WFON FM All Night Long - believe it came from someone up on Rivington Pike and someone over Ainsworth way : )

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Not wishing to promote bootlegs - but that had an awesome trackback listing at the time. I'm sure mine came fro somewhere starting with a T and ending in N!

 

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  On 25/06/2018 at 05:48, IANCSLOFT said:

It was a 80s release I'm sure it was 1980 or 81 Richard Searling played it final year at Wigan Cas ?

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Definitely a Wigan spin for Richard Searling other tracks getting spins around that time included:

Paradise - Pyramid

Do you love me - Patti Austin 

How Can I tell Her - Curtis 

Shonuff no  Funny Stuff - Charles Mann

let’s spend Some Time Together - Larry Houston 

Over The Top - Roy Dawson

Let Somebody Love You - Keni Burke 

Gonna Give You My Love - Gary Glenn

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Was  a Shrewsbury collective (Modern Soul pioneers) discovery. They took a copy to Wigan and Soul Sam played it as his last record of his spot before Pat Brady took over(this was its 1st play at a Northern allnigter). Ironically as there were only a few dancing Mr Brady faded it out before Charley lets go. Pep had copies in his shop at the time along with many other new releases . John Manship had it on his list too. Don"t remember Soul Bowl selling it as a new release.

I reckon theres a long 12" version out there somewhere, but its got my name on it so don"t get any ideas 😜

Cheers Paul

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I bought this record when it was released on the basis of a recommendation in the fanzine "Deeper Soul" (I think that  was it was called. I still have the magazine somewhere). Because the magazine was for Deep Soul fans, the recommendation was for the A Side "Baby I Cried". It only cost me about £1.75.

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Bought as a brand new release at the time from John Manship who at the time of getting in stock was  Listing the "A" Side as a deep soul Classic record, I bought a copy after a phone call to him and on receiving record played both side being blown away with NHALSG, Myself and J.C. (TOM Paddison On Here) both bought copies same day. Played it That weekend and it took off but it disappeared for sale as quick as it appeared and remained in demand since, A true soul masterpiece and  yes Manship was right, The "A" side damn good too. 

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Bought as a brand new release at the time from John Manship who at the time of getting in stock was  Listing the "A" Side as a deep soul Classic record, I bought a copy after a phone call to him and on receiving record played both side being blown away with NHALSG, Myself and J.C. (TOM Paddison On Here) both bought copies same day. Played it That weekend and it took off but it disappeared as quick as it appeared and remained in demand since, A true soul masterpiece and  yes Manship was right, The "A" side damn good too. 

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Hi Rick

Is JC the geezer with the long grey hair. I always think he looked a bit like Jesus! Is that where the JC comes fro,?

Pete

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Hi Peter, Yes You are correct, That is the same fellow, see him quite regular but i have to say with his long hair and beard now WHITE the youngsters in Scunthorpe Town Centre when  shopping with their parents call him Father Christmas, I kid you not. Always looked like a Hippie but he has a fabulous record collection, got a great memory of all things (back then) and could always be seen on stage at venues with his note book, always greeted people with "Bless You My Child" a loveable Character 🙂

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  On 28/06/2018 at 12:36, RICK SCOTT said:

Hi Peter, Yes You are correct, That is the same fellow, see him quite regular but i have to say with his long hair and beard now WHITE the youngsters in Scunthorpe Town Centre when  shopping with their parents call him Father Christmas, I kid you not. Always looked like a Hippie but he has a fabulous record collection, got a great memory of all things (back then) and could always be seen on stage at venues with his note book, always greeted people with "Bless You My Child" a loveable Character 🙂

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Cheers Rick. I seem to remember him having a massive cross hanging round his neck. :g:Yes, I understand he had a great collection. 

 

Pete

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How I wish there was an original 12" of it. Not the usual disco mix, but simply a complete recording including what happened after the ad-lib part of the 7" mix. As good as the song is, the last 30 odd seconds take it to a higher level. In my opinion.

Anyone access to the Alston/T.K. archive?

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Well one thing is for sure...after the Mecca closed in 79, there was at least one revival night in maybe 81 or 82 as a bus load from Donny including me went to it. 

Good chance NHALSG was played that night:)

Ed

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  On 29/06/2018 at 08:58, tomangoes said:

Well one thing is for sure...after the Mecca closed in 79, there was at least one revival night in maybe 81 or 82 as a bus load from Donny including me went to it. 

Good chance NHALSG was played that night:)

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Ha ha. I'm sure it was. It would've been keeping with things 😀

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