this time around we have a 'battle' suggested by @jimmy clitheroe

it's another battle royale...

 

Edwin Starr  - I Have Faith in You

v

Doni Burdick - I Have Faith in You

 

 

 

voice your choice!

 

then once posted your choice...

 

feel most free to share your reasons, view, stories, memories etc etc  

 

 

Edwin any day of the week and twice on Sunday.  Much more convincing vocal performance.

For me it's Doni's version, only just. There's just something about it, maybe more to do with the different backing singers rather than DB himself.

WIN Star Ed !

Edwin, seems much more committed emotionally. 

For me, Edwin's version has a more heartfelt vocal performance, so it got my vote.

Doni's version sounds like he's reading the lyrics off a sheet. However, the backing track does have a certain something about it.

Being cowardly again here sitting on the fence again both magic sounds what work in a slightly different way, Edwin,s vocals plead with you , Donni,s vocals in a sublime way work and get to you too I'm giving these two 50% each both fantastic sounds

ML

📲

Edwin basically grabs it by the bollocks.

 

 

As with most of these comparisons, the actual technical elements of the recordings are of secondary importance to most people. The overriding reason for someone choosing their favourite is really down to when they heard them for the first time, and the memories said hearings evoke. Therefore, and for me, Edwin wins hands down. Every.....single.....day.....of......the.......week. The original version, still after all this time the better of the two, and the one that reminds me of so, so much that happened back in the early 70's.

Edited June 21, 20186 yr by Guest

Edwin without a doubt for me too .

I'd say it was one of the most Soulful records ever spun on the scene here.

Always sent a shiver down the spine sung with feeling and absolute conviction.

Both great. Edwin pips it.

Yes ,it has to be Edwin for me , (were there any  Ric Tic white demos of it ?). Doni Burdick s is also great .The  rumbling intro heavy orchestration and backing singers  combine with the vocal to put this in my all time top 5 .

5 minutes ago, carty said:

Yes ,it has to be Edwin for me , (were there any  Ric Tic white demos of it ?). Doni Burdick s is also great .The  rumbling intro heavy orchestration and backing singers  combine with the vocal to put this in my all time top 5 .

Ric-Tic WDJ's are super cute but I dropped the case (to have them all WDJ's) the day I found out that his very favorite one of mine 'I have faith in you' was available only on the red stock copies where all the WDJ's where double 'A' side !!!

Doni not in Edwin's league, sorry.

Ed

4 hours ago, mike said:

this time around we have a 'battle' suggested by @jimmy clitheroe

it's another battle royale...

 

Edwin Starr  - I Have Faith in You

v

Doni Burdick - I Have Faith in You

 

 

 

voice your choice!

 

then once posted your choice...

 

feel most free to share your reasons, view, stories, memories etc etc  

 

 

For me it has to be Edwin by a Mile,especially when you have it on a red and white polydor demo. 

Edwin by a huge distance. A magnificent vocal performance which is right up there with his very best and his best is awesome. 

Nothing to think about here- 100% Edwin for me ! 

 Doni comes across as some bad lounge singer in Las Vegas.

Edited June 21, 20186 yr by the yank

 

32 minutes ago, the yank said:

Nothing to think about here- 100% Edwin for me ! 

 Doni comes across as some bad lounge singer in Las Vegas.

I will second that,your absolutely right. 

51 minutes ago, the yank said:

Nothing to think about here- 100% Edwin for me ! 

 Doni comes across as some bad lounge singer in Las Vegas.

And I'll third it! 😂

Edwin is King. Far too underrated as one of the best vocalists ever.

 

Peter

3 hours ago, Dayo said:

Edwin basically grabs it by the bollocks.

 

 

Ouch! 

Doni for me too 👍

 

Edwin by a distance, his vocals are just superb, tother version aint bad though

Edwin by a mile, Doni is a awful singer imo.

Doni’s Version is ok, but Edwin’s version is Magnificent...still get goose pimples from his version after all these years ...and maybe even a tear to my eye if I’ve had a few glasses 🍷

 

Edited June 21, 20186 yr by Edwin S Wales

Edwin by a country mile, my all time favourite. Met him on numerous occasions and DJ’d at some of his live performances, lovely man and what a voice! No contest!

4 hours ago, Peter99 said:

Edwin is King. Far too underrated as one of the best vocalists ever.

 

Peter

He certainly wasn’t underrated by Berry Gordy,Edwin was one of the main reasons why Berry bought Golden World and Ric Tic off Ed Wingate. 

No contest - got to be Edwin Starr. 

He sings it as though he actually means it whereas Doni Burdick just plods through the song.

Edited June 21, 20186 yr by Missing Link
Additional thought.

Edwin wins. no contest.

Well i wish i owned a copy of Doni just for the flip side Bari Track.

However Edwins version is far Better always brings up the neck hairs whenever i hear it

11 hours ago, Wheelsville1 said:

He certainly wasn’t underrated by Berry Gordy,Edwin was one of the main reasons why Berry bought Golden World and Ric Tic off Ed Wingate. 

Yes I understand that - Gordy could see a pot of cash better than most. My point was that if you talk about the best vocalists over the year I do not see Edwin's name come up very often. Jules Holland said that Edwin was the best live vocalist he'd ever worked with - and he knows a bit about music. 

18 minutes ago, Peter99 said:

Yes I understand that - Gordy could see a pot of cash better than most. My point was that if you talk about the best vocalists over the year I do not see Edwin's name come up very often. Jules Holland said that Edwin was the best live vocalist he'd ever worked with - and he knows a bit about music. 

I remember having a lengthy talk with Edwin in 2000 when he and Bill Randle brought JJ Barnes and Steve Mancha over to Birmingham.Not only was he a great singer,he was also Gentleman. 

Edwin by a long shot  the mans a legend on the scene 🤗

I know I shouldn't like it, and Edwins vocals are a mile better, but for production, arrangement and the total package Burdicks version comes out on top

4 hours ago, Wheelsville1 said:

I remember having a lengthy talk with Edwin in 2000 when he and Bill Randle brought JJ Barnes and Steve Mancha over to Birmingham.Not only was he a great singer,he was also Gentleman. 

Yes, he was a really nice man. Lived not far from me until he passed away. I've said this many times on here before but........................

Edwin is buried in the same cemetery as my mum - Wilford Hill in Nottingham. Its a very peaceful place, up on a hill, and I often imagine Edwin singing to my mum - his voice gently resonating with the wind rustling through the trees.

God bless both my Mum and Edwin. 

Peter

 

Edited June 22, 20186 yr by Peter99

The fantastico Charlie Hatcher by a Million %!! D,Burdock like his Fizzy namesake is pure Pop !! Doni just exemplifies all that is bad in the obsession with the rarer version , the ChipTyler over Jerry Williams ,the Formulaya over O, jays ,"Act" and Lenny Blackburn over Doris ,s "Anything". No Contest.! LOL Johnny ,Espanol.

Even many years after the ric tic side was cut, and even with a poor studio backing, the guys voice and passion stand out.

RIP Edwin

 

Ed

I asked Edwin to sing it live at Maxims circa 1988 he did at 4am in the morning and brought the house down a fantastic live artist and a genuine nice guy whose music  will stand the test of time for ever and a day

 

ML

The instrumental version Guy used to play is best by miles.

Dx

17 minutes ago, DaveNPete said:

The instrumental version Guy used to play is best by miles.

Dx

I Recall Guy playing the Back Street instrumental but cant ever remember I Have faith in you.

Edited June 22, 20186 yr by Patto

No contest for me. Edwin all the way. He signed a flyer once with " I have faith in you Kev".

1 hour ago, Patto said:

I Recall Guy playing the Back Street instrumental but cant ever remember I Have faith in you.

As far as I can remember,the instrumental that Guy used to play at Stafford was definitely Back Street. 

2 hours ago, DaveNPete said:

The instrumental version Guy used to play is best by miles.

Dx

I  don't remember Guy playing it at Stafford, but there are plenty of copies of a Soussan origin backing track + strings about. My old copy came from the owner of Selectadisc's garage, when Stigger was clearing it out for him (Stig's wife at the time worked for Brian). Credited to the Detroit symphony if I recall. Backing track plus tweaks of Sidney Barnes "I hurt on the other side" on the other side.

I'm sure it was from Soussan, because there were quite a few Black Magic related acetates there too. Including a 10" "Love you baby" that was credited to Lorraine Chandler, and the discs were all identical.

Edited June 22, 20186 yr by Rich B

I still play the instrumental version out and it always gets a good response it's a fantastic piece of music stands up with the vocal versions

ML

2 hours ago, DaveNPete said:

The instrumental version Guy used to play is best by miles.

Dx

This ?? Sounds sped up though...

 

Yes, but yes it sounds to be running fast. Wasn't Guy's on acetate? Must be 25 years since I heard it.

Dx

Edited June 22, 20186 yr by DaveNPete

47 minutes ago, DaveNPete said:

Yes, but yes it sounds to be running fast. Wasn't Guy's on acetate? Must be 25 years since I heard it.

Dx

 

2 hours ago, the yank said:

This ?? Sounds sped up though...

 

The gear was faster then the music had to keep up with it LoL no seriously the version I have is slightly slower than that and it ve had that over 30 years

ML

This is just an insult to Edwin.

Doni Burdick cant sing!

If it wasnt for the quirky foible for liking crap white artists who happened to have brilliant Detroit backing tracks behind them they wouldnt get half the attention.

 

The   Detroit symphony    Instumental     version    was massive at Wigan  in 1975 , think it was emidisc copies only at that point ,  i have a  white label copy with a stamp saying ( ithink ) re spin records  and the title , with Barbara Mcneir on the other side , from maybe ten years back. Would imagine these are around still for around £15.00 - £ 20.00 ish . 

Edwin Starr, obviously.

Doni Burdick sounds a bit weak heard through this medium but I'm sure it sounded better cranked up through a primitive sound system in an atmospheric dancehall. Or maybe it was the drugs? Lol!