What’s the biggest track playing out at the moment

[Jazz]

Just asking peeps opinion what’s the most  played track at the moment?

[Tomangoes]

This seems to be popular....

Ed

[Guest Spain pete]

Probably tainted love or do l love you . 👅

[Benji]

  On 31/03/2018 at 21:28, tomangoes said:

This seems to be popular....

Ed

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Sorry, but is this a joke? That tune been played to death all over Europe many many moons ago......

[Soulsides]

  On 31/03/2018 at 22:50, Spain pete said:

Probably tainted love or do l love you . 👅

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This genuinely made me laugh out loud and almost spill my coffee all over my phones screen you bast**d,Pete !

Lololol..

[Zed1]

  On 31/03/2018 at 23:00, Benji said:

Sorry, but is this a joke? That tune been played to death all over Europe many many moons ago......

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I just watch with the sound down.  

[Twoshoes]

I guess it depends on the type of event you attend, the ones I go to don't always reflect my current tastes but from what I see anything that has been played to death for the last forty years still fills the floor even as was the case recently at an event I was at it gets played twice in a night, same people dancing to a record they danced to an hour ago, I've heard Papa Bear and the Cubs played a few times recently with sadly no reaction on the dancefloor but kudos to the Dj's concerned for plugging away  and trying.

[Twoshoes]

  On 01/04/2018 at 09:27, Zed1 said:

I just watch with the sound down

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I was just warned not to post something similar by she who must be listened to 

Edited April 1, 2018 by Twoshoes

[Chalky]

  On 01/04/2018 at 09:49, Twoshoes said:

I guess it depends on the type of event you attend, the ones I go to don't always reflect my current tastes but from what I see anything that has been played to death for the last forty years still fills the floor even as was the case recently at an event I was at it gets played twice in a night, same people dancing to a record they danced to an hour ago, I've heard Papa Bear and the Cubs played a few times recently with sadly no reaction on the dancefloor but kudos to the Dj's concerned for plugging away  and trying.

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Papa Bear is a floorpacker for Ted Massey, Ginger etc.  Was revived at Lifeline early 2000s and subsequently hammered by anyone who could get one of the many copies out there.

Very few big new discoveries, if any, certainly mainstream. 

Edited April 1, 2018 by chalky

[Twoshoes]

  On 01/04/2018 at 09:53, chalky said:

Papa Bear is a floor taker for Ted Massey, Ginger

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 Ginger is one of the dj's I was talking about, he has played it each time he's Dj'ed at an event I go to and virtually no one danced, what fills the floor at one place isn't guaranteed to do it elsewhere, it was played last night at the Carlton Club, one person danced. 

[Tomangoes]

  On 01/04/2018 at 09:27, Zed1 said:

I just watch with the sound down.  

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Got it in one

Ed

[Geeselad]

  On 01/04/2018 at 10:03, Twoshoes said:

 Ginger is one of the dj's I was talking about, he has played it each time he's Dj'ed at an event I go to and virtually no one danced, what fills the floor at one place isn't guaranteed to do it elsewhere, it was played last night at the Carlton Club, one person danced. 

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It's not a great record to dance too. Hate the bloody record personally. Rarity over quality, OK it's got soul, unusual production etc, but in terms of groove it ain't all that and certainly never a dance floor winner. The scene is just so fractured now can there be a single big tune, what's just breaking in the mainstream is past its best before in the upfront. 

[Tomangoes]

Where was this first played? I like it alot..

Ed

[Winsford Soul]

  On 02/04/2018 at 11:19, geeselad said:

The scene is just so fractured now can there be a single big tune, what's just breaking in the mainstream is past its best before in the upfront. 

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Thats so true.  Every thing has become pigeon holed up in to what ever that latest buzz word is  ( funky edged ) for example.  Scrap the boxes,  play the tunes if they're good they will set there own demand and reaction 

Steve 

[Dylan]

  On 02/04/2018 at 11:36, tomangoes said:

Where was this first played? I like it alot..

Ed

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Is this the record rod (voices) had for 15 quid.

 

shortly after it was going for big money.

[Twoshoes]

  On 02/04/2018 at 11:19, geeselad said:

Rarity over quality,

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I personally think that's true of an awful lot of rare records, when I look at Manship's auctions and check out some of the tunes that go beyond £500 that I don't know I'm rarely impressed. 

[Dylan]

  On 02/04/2018 at 11:19, geeselad said:

It's not a great record to dance too. Hate the bloody record personally. Rarity over quality, OK it's got soul, unusual production etc, but in terms of groove it ain't all that and certainly never a dance floor winner. The scene is just so fractured now can there be a single big tune, what's just breaking in the mainstream is past its best before in the upfront. 

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The mainstream northern scene is years behind.  I can’t imagine a record breaking there that isn’t already known from one of the smaller scenes within the scene.

[Chalky]

  On 02/04/2018 at 11:36, tomangoes said:

Where was this first played? I like it alot..

Ed

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First played early 90s.  Revived early 2000s by Andy Dyson then hammered by all who could get a copy.

[Chalky]

  On 02/04/2018 at 11:48, dylan said:

Is this the record rod (voices) had for 15 quid.

 

shortly after it was going for big money.

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10/15 years after Rod it went for big money or began to after it had been revived.  Quite a lot of copies out there too, more than people realise.

[Chalky]

  On 02/04/2018 at 11:19, geeselad said:

It's not a great record to dance too. Hate the bloody record personally. Rarity over quality, OK it's got soul, unusual production etc, but in terms of groove it ain't all that and certainly never a dance floor winner. The scene is just so fractured now can there be a single big tune, what's just breaking in the mainstream is past its best before in the upfront. 

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How can you say out isn't a dance floor winner?  Packs the floor whenever I have seen it played and more and more Djs getting behind it, 3k a copy, fckin barmy.

[Chalky]

  On 02/04/2018 at 11:50, dylan said:

The mainstream northern scene is years behind.  I can’t imagine a record breaking there that isn’t already known from one of the smaller scenes within the scene.

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Some of the so called upfront/rare scene Djs are ten years behind.  Getting the records the likes go Butch, Andy etc had years ago, or the funky edge crap that wasn't considered good enough years ago and they think they are cutting edge.

[Dylan]

  On 02/04/2018 at 12:10, chalky said:

10/15 years after Rod it went for big money or began to after it had been revived.  Quite a lot of copies out there too, more than people realise.

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Rod must have had a few to let it go cheap.  Wasn’t it front page focus or record of the list what ever term he used ?

[Tomangoes]

The last 'soul night' I went to was a couple of weeks ago in Las Vegas

The biggest dancefloor filler....

Next, a Ska record, followed closely by Wully Bully.

All described as curve balls.

Takes all sorts I guess, but the ' anything goes ' phenomenon is not for me I'm afraid.

Luckily the bar downstairs was open all night

Ed

 

[Stubbsy]

I don't get out as much as I used to but everywhere I've been of late - "Jeanette" Wade Flemons  

[Chalky]

  On 02/04/2018 at 12:40, dylan said:

Rod must have had a few to let it go cheap.  Wasn’t it front page focus or record of the list what ever term he used ?

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into three figures I believe 

[Zed1]

  On 02/04/2018 at 11:37, Winsford Soul said:

Thats so true.  Every thing has become pigeon holed up in to what ever that latest buzz word is  ( funky edged ) for example.  Scrap the boxes,  play the tunes if they're good they will set there own demand and reaction 

Steve 

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Don't get out much these days Ste as you know, but on the odd time I do I get the overwhelming impression that to go forwards we need to go backwards and bring everything back under one roof. This would also have the added benefit of bringing about cull of the Party Northern DJ's and weekly Pensioners Disco's...

Sadly, I doubt it'll happen as I think we're just too far apart and never the twain shall meet.

 

Edited April 2, 2018 by Zed1

[Chalky]

  On 02/04/2018 at 14:20, Zed1 said:

Don't get out much these days Ste as you know, but on the odd time I do I get the overwhelming impression that to go forwards we need to go backwards and bring everything back under one roof. This would also have the added benefit of bringing about cull of the Party Northern DJ's and weekly Pensioners Disco's...

Sadly, I doubt it'll happen as I think we're just too far apart and never the twain shall meet.

 

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It'll never happen as the scene is not as simple as 60s, 70s or 80s anymore.  It is far more diverse.  

[Geeselad]

  On 02/04/2018 at 12:13, chalky said:

Some of the so called upfront/rare scene Djs are ten years behind.  Getting the records the likes go Butch, Andy etc had years ago, or the funky edge crap that wasn't considered good enough years ago and they think they are cutting edge.

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Certainly an amount of vitreous indignation that's not becoming of the elder generation of soul purists  and someone so respected and knowledgable. Leave it out chalky, you sound bitter! 

[Chalky]

  On 02/04/2018 at 14:50, geeselad said:

Certainly an amount of vitreous indignation that's not becoming of the elder generation of soul purists  and someone so respected and knowledgable. Leave it out chalky, you sound bitter! 

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Certainly not mate.  Just saying that it isn't just the mainstream that is years behind and that most of the big records have been around for many years now.  The biggest tracks are the ones that have been popular for some years on both sides of the 60s/northern scene.  I heard newer stuff at the weekend and they clear the floor even though they are/were IMO better dancers.  So in answer to the original question the biggest records are still the same ones as before.

Edited April 2, 2018 by chalky

[Tomangoes]

Fairs fair, it's unlikely any record is going to be a new discovery that was made between 63 and 83 in which era most of the scenes tunes are drawn from.

Best hope would be a tune that is good but did not quite take off everywhere back in the day, gets a second or third chance.

And boy when they take off, so does the price!

Salvation for example.

Seems to me the guys who've chased the master tapes etc have been the most successful in bringing new material onto the scene. No original discs, limited runs, been very welcome in most cases, but can't go on forever.

Ed

 

[Monny1916]

If you like traditional northern, modern or funk,Latin ska ,stick to your own clubs and enjoy yourselves personally I only go to niters that play what I like and bearing in mind there is many thousands to choose from a good dj will keep the floor well packed 

[Guest Spain pete]

Best way to educate myself nowadays is indoors listening to the radio and looking on the web , seems to me forward thinking and even backward new thinking  is resigned to a few events all of which l can't attend, never one for going out much , but when l did l always wanted something new , even if it was something old new , think l'm a lucky sod because every day l find a newbie even if it is old to someone else. 🎶🎶🎶 ✌

[Ted Massey]

  On 02/04/2018 at 11:48, dylan said:

Is this the record rod (voices) had for 15 quid.

 

shortly after it was going for big money.

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that was the Vanguards Good times bad times on Lamp 

[Steve G]

  On 02/04/2018 at 12:40, dylan said:

Rod must have had a few to let it go cheap.  Wasn’t it front page focus or record of the list what ever term he used ?

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Soul Bowl had Papa Bear originally, but no one was interested back then.

Rod had at least 15 copies in the early 90s, which is where I got my copy (blind), thinking it looked interesting. We kind of did daft things like that back then didn't we.  

[Dylan]

  On 02/04/2018 at 16:17, Steve G said:

Soul Bowl had Papa Bear originally, but no one was interested back then.

Rod had at least 15 copies in the early 90s, which is where I got my copy (blind), thinking it looked interesting. We kind of did daft things like that back then didn't we.  

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funny when you look back some of those oddball punts on cheaper interesting looking items end up being worth a lot more than something that often listed and sold for a lot more.

 

is anybody having the same sucess now ?

[Dylan]

  On 02/04/2018 at 16:00, Ted Massey said:

that was the Vanguards Good times bad times on Lamp 

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I didnt know he had that cheap as well ?

 

i remeber finding some online sales lists for a shop in new york and it was like a treasure trove of expensive records all very cheap.  I missed them all. But often wonder if anybody did actually manage to get anything.  And how late i was to getting some success.

[Tomangoes]

I used to get soul bowl lists, and many tracks were unheard of in the mainstream, so papa bear listed at a quid would have been a leap of faith unless you lived in Kings Lynn!

No online listening then, mores the pity!

Then again, when John cleared out a million discs via soul packs, you would have got it for ten pence!

I accumulated at least 500 quality 70s tracks from soul packs that way, and discarded the other 1500 ' average track or label interest only ' at record fairs mainly for trades.

It really was win win for the soul pack buyers.

Ed