Roburt Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 Another instro I recall being played around 67 (but my memory is shot these days so ...) ... . .. Bobby Moore & Rhy Aces -- Hey Mr DJ (B side to SEARCHIN FOR MY BABY). Anyone confirm if my recall is correct ?? 2
Stevegods Posted February 16, 2018 Author Posted February 16, 2018 Playgiarisum Rob ... 👎 What a cheek mate .. but what about the sounds that you remember and that don’t get played now ?
Tomangoes Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 From an earlier thread TWISTED WHEEL BRAZENOSE STREET MANCHESTER The 'old wheel' PLAY LIST and discography Please add your memories to this list. Blues years to RnB A Walk on the Wild side - Jimmy Smith (A favourite for the Last Record of the night) The Cat I'm a lover not a fighter - Lazy Lester Stateside 1958 Need your love so bad - Little Willie John Charly RnB USA Oh My Angel - Bertha Tillman Tell Him (Go to Him Run To Him) Exiters Fever - Little Willie John It Hurts Me Too - Elmore James Dust My Broom - Elmore James Help Me - Sunny Boy Williamson PYE (Yellow RnB label) Soulfull Dress - Sugar Pie Desanto Boogie Woogy - John Lee Hooker Crawlin Kingsnake Dimples Down home girl -Alvin Robinson Um um um um um -Major Lance I'm so Lost Hit the Road Jack - Ray Charles 10th and VineI'll Put a Spell On You Somethings Got A Hold On Me - Etta James I hear Voices Screaming Jay Hawkins I'll Put a Spell on You Nina Simone Down in the Basement Sugar Pie Desanto Something's got a hold on me Trouble in Mind Dinah Washington Willow Weep for Me You Shook Me Muddy Waters Mannish Boy Rolling Stone Hoochie Coochie Man Got My Mojo Working 40 Days 40 Nights Got To Get You Off My Mind Solomon Burke Cry To Me A Rose in Spanish Harlem - Ben E King (Black ATLANTIC label) I Who Have Nothing If You Need Me Everybody Needs Somebody To Love Down in the Valley In The Midnight Hour 6345789 Your So Fine Mercy Mercy-Wilson Picket STAX Green Unions - Booker T and the MG's Behave yourself (A favourite for the Last Record of the night) Outrage Chinese Checkers Hole in the Wall ( Booker T) Last Night The MarKeys I'll Come Running Back to You Sam Cooke Twistin the Night Away - Sam Cooke The Whole Worlds Shakin Shake Working on the Chain Gang The Sound of My Man (Working on the chain gang) - Theola Kilgore Night Train - James Brown Dead End Street - Lou Rawls The Duck Jack ie Lee Goin out of my Head - Little Anthony and the Imperials Gonna Fix You Good Something's got a hold on me Long After Tonight is all Over - Jimmy Radcliffe A Time to Love A Time to Cry - Lou Johnson Hey Girl -Freddie Scott Getting Mighty Crowded - Betty Everett Alvin Cash and the Registers/Crawlers Ed
Guest Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 22 minutes ago, Roburt said: Much of the background info in the section of the above book on Jnr Walker's night at the Wheel seems to have been a straight 'lift' from my chapter in 'THE IN CROWD' book about my first visit to the Wheel (only went then coz the Mojo was about to / did close). The 'author' even had the cheek to use a scan of my Wheel ticket from that night (also used, but with my permission, in THE IN CROWD). Christ, I thought it was bad enough booting vinyl, but book chapters too?
Guest soash Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 13 minutes ago, Joey said: Christ, I thought it was bad enough booting vinyl, but book chapters too? Does he list the stuff he borrowed in a bibliography? If he does, then that is perfectly normal practice in reference books. If he doesn't, then yes, it's a boot!
Guest Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, soash said: Does he list the stuff he borrowed in a bibliography? If he does, then that is perfectly normal practice in reference books. If he doesn't, then yes, it's a boot! No longer have my print copy, sold it years ago. Now I'm going to have to go and spend more of my sodding pension on an amazon kindle download to find out!😂 Cant believe this one hasn't been posted yet, nor the Wayne Fontana version which to me was equally as good.
Guest soash Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 Here's the one I mentioned a few posts ago:
bri phill Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 Just copying and pasting some stuff from years back I posted regarding Wheel sounds, these were tunes not on compilation CDs of the wheel and I am referring to the Whitworth Street Wheel.I could also add a lot more but thats enough When Ian Levine turned up at The Wheel I was the only guy he knew because he use to buy records from my lists mainly motown related, he didn't know a lot of stuff being played.I left then and in the last couple of months before the club closing he turned up with 3 records Hit And Run,Please Let Me In and Wingate strings Agent OO soul. JERRY COOKE I HURT ON THE OTHER SIDE ROBERT BANKS MIGHTY GOOD WAY THE KELLY BROTHERS LOVE TIME FANTASTIC FOUR I CANT STOP LOVING MY BABY MAJOR LANCE RHYTHM MAJOR LANCE THE MATADOR MAJOR LANCE EVERYBODY LOVES A GOODTIME MAJOR LANCE INVESTIGATE MAJOR LANCE OOHPS DELILHA EARL VAN DYKE I CANT HELP MYSELF EARL VAN DYKE ALL FOR YOU EARL VAN DYKE 6 X 6 THE ARTISTICS THIS HEART OF MINE JOHN ROBERTS I'LL FORGET YOU THE ARTISTICS THE CHASE IS ON THE ARTISTICS HOPE WE HAVE WAYNE FONTANA SOMETHING KEEPS CALLING ME BACK SPENCER DAVIS THIS HAMMER SPENCER DAVIS TRAMPOLINE BILLY BUTLER I CANT WORK NO LONGER WALTER JACKSON I KEEP FORGETING / WHERE HAVE ALL THE FLOWERS GONE WILLIAMS /WATSON TOO LATE JIMMY HOLIDAY THE TURNING POINT JIMMY HOLIDAY SPRED YOUR LOVE album version JIMMY HOLIDAY AND CLYDIE KING READY WILLING AND ABLE PEACHES AND HERB WERE IN THIS THING TOGETHER VALA REGAN FIREMAN THE OJAYS WORKING ON YOUR CASE THE OJAYS I DIG YOUR ACT NORMAN JOHNSON OUR LOVE WILL GROW IRMA THOMAS WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO DO JACKIE WILSON SOMEBODY UP THERE LIKE YOU JACJIE WILSON YOU CAN COUNT ON ME JACKIE WILSON YOU BROUGHT ABOUT A CHANGE IN ME RUFUS LUMLEY IM STANDING GEORGE STONE HOLE IN THE WALL THE DYNATONES HOLE IN THE WALL THE PACKERS HOLE IN THE WALL DOBIE GRAT SEE YOU AT THE GO GO DOBIE GRAY OUT ON THE FLOOR DOBIE GRAY THE IN CROWD ROUND ROBIN KICK THAT LITTLE FOOT SALLY ANNE THE SHARPEES DO THE 45 JOHNIE TAYLOR CHANGES LITTLE JOHNY TAYLOR ZIG ZAG LIGHTNING BOBBY BLAND SHOES BOBBY BLAND THESE HANDS BOBBY BLAND YOUR WORTH IT ALL BOBBY BLAND POVERTY BOBBY BLAND GOOD TIME CHARLIE BOBBY BLAND CALL ON ME BOBBY BLAND AINT NOYHING YOU CAN DO BARBARA LYNN YOUR LOOSING ME BARBARA LYNN THIS IS THE THANKS I GET JOHNY COPELAND SUFFERIN CITY JIMMY HUGHES NEIGBOUR NEIGBOUR THE ADLIBS NEIGHBOUR NEIGHBOUR THE ADLIBS BOY FROM NEW YORK CITY EVIE SANDS PICTURE ME GONE MADELINE BELL PICTURE ME GONE BAND OF ANGELS INVITATION MOOD MOSAIC TOUCH OF VELVET STING OF BRASS RAY POLLARD THE DRIFTER RAY POLLARD ITS A SAD THING THE IMPRESSIONS YOU OUGHT TO BE IN HEAVEN THE IMPRESSIONS NOTHING CAN STOP ME THE IMPRESSIONS I CANT SATISFY THE IMPRESSIONS MEETING OVER YONDER THE IMPRESSIONS I LOVE YOU YEAH THE IMPRESSIONS WOMANS GOT SOUL THE IMPRESSIONS ITS ALLRIGHT THE IMPRESSIONS YOU ALWAYS HURT ME THE IMPRESSIONS SINCE I LOST THE ONE I LOVE THE IMPRESSIONS GYPSY WOMAN RAY CHARLES I CHOSE TO SING THE BLUES SAM COOKE SUGAR DUMPLING SAM COOKE CHAIN GANG SAM COOKE ANOTHER SATURDAY NIGHT J BARNES REAL HIMDINGER JJ BARNES PLEASE LET ME IN EDWIN STARR AGENT OO SOUL EDWIN STARR IVE GOT FAITH IN YOU EDWIN STARR BACKSTREET EDWIN STARR MY WEAKNESS IS YOU BOB WILSON IF IT FEELS GOOD SAN REMO STRINGS FESTIVAL TIME LAURA LEE TO WIN YOUR HEART MARLENA SHAW LETS WADE IN THE WATER JOY LOVEYOY IN ORBIT JACKIE WILSON DARKEST DAYS LEON HAYWOOD BABY RECONSIDER BOB SEEGER HEAVY MUSIC FRANKI VALI YOURE READY NOW BOBBY BENETT YOUR READY NOW THE LARKS THE JERK THE GYPSIES JERK IT SANDY WYNS TOUCH OF VENUS CHAIMAN OF THE BOARD GIVE ME JUST A LITTLE MORE TIME LOS CANARIOS GET ON YOUR KNEE ATRICIA HOLLOWAY LOVE AND DESIRE /ECTASY REUBEN BELL HEY GIRL JAMES CARR COMING BACK TO ME BABY PERCY MILLEM CALL ON ME CHUCK JACKSON GOOD THINGS COME TO THOSE WHO WAIT THE MIRACLES GOTTA DANCE TO KEEP FROM CRYING THE VELVELETTES THESE THINGS KEEP ME LOVING YOU THE VELVELETTES NEEDLE IN AN HAYSTACK THE VELVELETTES REALLY SAYING SOMETHING THE SUPREMES LOVE IS LIKE A ITCHING IN MY HEART TAJ MAHAL A LOT OF LOVE ART FREEMAN SLIPPING AROUND DEON JACKSON LOVE MAKES THE WORLD GO ROUND BEN E KING CRY NO MORE DENISE LASELLE LOVE REPUTATION GENE CHANDLER JUST A FOOL FOR YOU GENE CHANDLER GOOD TIMES THE VANTASTICS LADY LOVE GENE CHANDLER A SONG CALLED SOUL FRANCIS NERO KEEP ON LOVING ME SOULFUL STRINGS BURNING SPEAR BOBBY TAYLOR OH IVE BEEN BLESSED BETTY LAVETTE LET ME DOWN EASY BETTY LAVETTE ONLY YOUR LOVE CAN SAVE ME MARY LOVE YOU TURNED MY BITTER INTO SWEET MARY LOVE LAY THIS BURDEN DOWN THE SPINNERS ILL ALWAYS LOVE YOU THE SPINNERS TRULY YOURS THE SPINNERS SWEET THING KETTY LESTER WEST COAST HOMER BANKS HOOKED BY LOVE THE SPELLBINDERS HELP ME THE SPELLBINDERS CHAIN REACTION BETTY SWAN MAKE ME YOURS LOU JOHNSON UNSATISFIED WILLIE MITCHELL SECRET HOME JACKIE DAY BEFORE ITS TO LATE THE SAPHIRES GOT TO HAVE YOUR LOVE THE TAMS HEY GIRL DONT BOTHER ME BABARA MILLS QUEEN OF FOOLS THE BLENDELLS LA LA LA LA THE BLENDELLS DANCE WITH ME THE CAROLLS SURRENDER YOUR LOVE IKE AND TINA TURNER SOMEBODY UP THERE NEEDS YOU THE JAYBIRDS SOMEBODY HELP ME MARVIN SMITH HAVE MORE TIME VERNON GARETT SHINE IT ON VERNON GARRETT TUN BACK THE HANDS OF TIME JAMES CARR LOOSING GAME SAMMY AMBROSE WELCOME TO DREAMSVILLE VIRGINIA WOLFS STAY THE JAYNETTES SALLY GO ROUND DEAN PARISH TELL HER CHUBBY CHECKER JUST DONT KNOW CHUBBY CHECKER CUM A LA BE STAY GARNETT MIMMS LOOKING FOR YOU ETTA JAMES BOBBY MCLURE DO I MAKE MYSELF CLEAR CASH MCALL ITS WONDERFUL LITTLE MILTON WHOS CHEATIN WHO BOBBY FREEMAN THE DUCK BOBBY FREEMAN COMON AND SWIM CHUCK JACKSON HAND IT OVER BOB WILSON ALL TURNED ON BOBBY BLAND YUM YUM TREE BOOKER T SWEET POTATO EROL DIXSON I NEED SOMEONE TO LOVE THE CONTOURS JUST A LITTLE MISUNDERSTANDING THE CONTOURS FIRST I LOOK AT THE PURSE JACKIE EDWARDS FEEL SO BAD BETTY HARRIS 12 RED ROSES HUMAN BEINX NOBODY BUT ME THE RADIANTS VOICE YOUR CHOICE THE RADIANYS AINT NO BIG THING JACKIE WILSON SWEETEST FEELING/ NOTHING BUT BLUE SKIES JAMES CARR FREEDOM TRAIN IKE AND TINA DUST MY BROOM THE IKETTES WHAT YOU GONNA DO GOOGIE RENE SMOKIE JOES LA LA LA THE OLYMPICS SAME OLD THING THE OLYMPICS WE GO TOGETHER JOHNY WYATT THIS THING CALLED LOVE KENNY BERNARD PITY MY FEET ISLEY BROTHERS TELL ME ITS JUST A RUMOUR BABY GENE CHANDLER I CAN TAKE CARE OF MYSELF HERBIE MANN PHILLY DOG THE FORMATIONS AT THE TOP OF THE STAIRS GLORIA JONES HEARTBEAT GLORIA JONES FINDERS KEEPERS THE HESITATIONS YOU CANT BYPASS LOVE BARBARA ACKLIN LOVE MAKES A WOMAN DARRELL BANKS SOMEBODY SOMEWHERE NEEDS YOU KIM WESTON HELPLESS THE PLATTERS SWEET SWEET LOVING THE INTRIGUES IN A MOMENT HERBIE GOINS NO 1 IN YOUR HEART WILLIAMS AND WATSON ONE GOOD REASON JOHNY TAYLOR BLUES IN THE NIGHT AL WILSON NOW I KNOW WHAT LOVE IS (we wouldn't play the snake) THE ADLIBS NOTHING WORSE THAN BEING ALONE DEE DEE SHARP WHAT KIND OF LADY BUNNY SIGLER GIRL DONT MAKE ME WAIT BOB BRADY MORE MORE OF YOUR LOVE EROL DIXON THE HOOP
Back Street Blue Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 ........must've been a bit off the pace on the floor?.....but love this too................... 1
Kegsy Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 Not sure if this was played at the Wheel but sounds like it might have been 2
Hxtfc1 Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 Sorry people I was not aware the Levine was a no go subject !! Getting back on track Joey - yes Halifax - The legendary Plebs club circa 68 (now revived by Francis OBrien) was allways a wicked night out. The Wheel was different not only because of its never heard before playlists with tracks like The Young Brothers - Whats Your Game but also for the fashion. The train from Halifax into Victoria was a magic site, when in those days of six button flairs many of the FAX soulies were wearing tight jeans , suede overshirts and coloured suede Cubans !!! The meeting point was the Crown and Anchor on the end of Deansgate before the walk to the Wheel - should have seen the looks from your everyday punters on the way down-happy days !! There is still a guy who goes to the Wheel now who still dances in the Blue Cubans - watch this guy move. Yes the Wheel was different. Jonny.
Guest Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 8 minutes ago, HXTFC1 said: Sorry people I was not aware the Levine was a no go subject !! Getting back on track Joey - yes Halifax - The legendary Plebs club circa 68 (now revived by Francis OBrien) was allways a wicked night out. The Wheel was different not only because of its never heard before playlists with tracks like The Young Brothers - Whats Your Game but also for the fashion. The train from Halifax into Victoria was a magic site, when in those days of six button flairs many of the FAX soulies were wearing tight jeans , suede overshirts and coloured suede Cubans !!! The meeting point was the Crown and Anchor on the end of Deansgate before the walk to the Wheel - should have seen the looks from your everyday punters on the way down-happy days !! There is still a guy who goes to the Wheel now who still dances in the Blue Cubans - watch this guy move. Yes the Wheel was different. Jonny. Ha, yeah, I got a gentle chiding for becoming involved "off topic" shall we say. We live and learn....or not, as the case may be! :-) The times you're describing are a bit before my time unfortunately. But fascinating nonetheless, and fit in with many of the tales my elders and betters related to me when I was a young teenager. I think the fashion side of things played a big part, a very big part, for a lot of us. Myself and most of my friends eschewed the newer fashions, massive flares, loon pants, chiffon shirts and all kinds of stuff with flowers on! In fact, my fashion sense probably never changed between 71, and when I quit the scene at the end of 75. Levi sta-prest, a barathea blazer, nice shirt, a pair or Royals on my feet etc. etc. Couldn't stay that way though, as the sweat would destroy decent clothes in any 'Niter, especially the Casino for some reason. I swear I've never sweated anywhere as much as I did in that bloody place. So, a vest/singlet, and a pair of baggy, heavily modified Lee Skinner jeans were my preferred attire. Cuban heels? Bugger those! Had a pair once upon a time, and I now consider myself lucky to be able to walk normally! Hair? Never grew it 'til I left the Navy in 81. Always a suede head style for me. With, of course, the de rigeur long sidies. Oh, and a crombie when it was chilly! I think that even then, several years after the Wheel closed, it was still influencing so many of us, in so many different ways, not just via the music. The last time I was back in Manchester, football games not being counted, must have been nearly forty years ago, so I can't comment whether the Crown and Anchor is even still there. We never used the place, preferring Rowntrees Sounds near Victoria Station as a meeting place. Not much changed in the years following on from your own train journeys really. I can recall getting the train to Wigan when it opened, along with many other soulies, who all looked totally different from the crowds you'd see anywhere else on a Saturday night. I can easily imagine the looks "normal" people would have given you on the way to the Wheel. People forget just how bloody dour, puritanical, and downright conservative the north of England was back then! I remember living most of my teenage years in a world of disapproving looks from "grown-ups". BTW, did you ever know any of the Oldham Wheel guys? Brad and Don, one tall and skinny with glasses, the other stocky with a glass eye, and big Kev Curley, red haired monster? Big friends of mine, who took me under their collective wings as a kid, and introduced me to the scene proper. Happy days!
bri phill Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Kegsy said: Not sure if this was played at the Wheel but sounds like it might have been Give us a break Kegsy, We had better standards some crap posted on here that I doubt was played
Mod66 Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 When all said and done Ian Levine did bring a lot of records into the country I go to all the major events but last week attended a small local club in Teddington (towards London). Unbelievably, Ian Levine was doing a set there. The best night I've had for months and judging by the reaction I was not alone Paul (AKA Mod 66) 1
Mike Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 5 hours ago, mike said: can we get back to the topic - as in 'wheel sounds' best if start a new topic if want to talk about other things cheers now #feelgoodfriday
Tomangoes Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 58 minutes ago, bri phill said: Give us a break Kegsy, We had better standards some crap posted on here that I doubt was played Wheel tappers and shunters club more like:) But as others have said UK bands tried to copy USA bands, and some stuff is ok. Ed
Dwr Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 Trying to get back on topic - Margie Hendrix Restless and Billy Stewart stuff - Bobby Hebb Love Love Love
Kegsy Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 1 hour ago, bri phill said: Give us a break Kegsy, We had better standards some crap posted on here that I doubt was played I didn't say it was played Bri and i didnt say it was a good sound. I just thought it might have been as it became a bit of a collectors item not long after the Wheel shut. Which other "crap" posted on here so far do you reckon wasn't played ?. I never went to the Wheel, but went to places 68/69/70 where lads who did go dj'ed or brought records in for the dj to play.
Mr Fred Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) On 14/02/2018 at 13:15, Kegsy said: Here you go, instrumentals were allowed back then. plus this Edited February 16, 2018 by Mr Fred
Mr Fred Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 On 14/02/2018 at 13:15, Kegsy said: Here you go, instrumentals were allowed back then. plus this Brilliant record Kegsy.Hope you're ok regards Fred.
Autumnstoned Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 I'm assuming that the UK bands who played live at The Wheel had their current and recent releases played at the All Nighters eg Chris Farlowe, The Alan Bown Set, The Action, Graham Bond, Georgie Fame and others? Dunno why but thought that Chris Farlowe's Think bw Don't Just Look At Me was played there.
Davebanks Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 5 hours ago, HXTFC1 said: Sorry people I was not aware the Levine was a no go subject !! Getting back on track Joey - yes Halifax - The legendary Plebs club circa 68 (now revived by Francis OBrien) was allways a wicked night out. The Wheel was different not only because of its never heard before playlists with tracks like The Young Brothers - Whats Your Game but also for the fashion. The train from Halifax into Victoria was a magic site, when in those days of six button flairs many of the FAX soulies were wearing tight jeans , suede overshirts and coloured suede Cubans !!! The meeting point was the Crown and Anchor on the end of Deansgate before the walk to the Wheel - should have seen the looks from your everyday punters on the way down-happy days !! There is still a guy who goes to the Wheel now who still dances in the Blue Cubans - watch this guy move. Yes the Wheel was different. Jonny. Are you saying that the Young brothers was played at the wheel ?? Never heard that before. But then you live and learn. Always thought that was an 80's discovery. Dave Banks
Guest Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 Back on topic. This really is an all time classic, and very much near the top of any list I could ever compile. Played all over the place "back when", and really should be today. Eddie's vocal is sublime. Strength and emotion in equal parts. The backing track? JUST LISTEN TO IT. There are very few cover versions that ever completely eclipse the original, and I can't ever recall anyone putting the great Sam Cooke into second place, but with this number Eddie does it with ease. This is probably the finest track issued on Stax. No mean claim, I agree, but just sit back, put on the headphones and LISTEN to the bloody thing. Then tell me I'm wrong.
Tomangoes Posted February 17, 2018 Posted February 17, 2018 2 hours ago, davebanks said: Are you saying that the Young brothers was played at the wheel ?? Never heard that before. But then you live and learn. Always thought that was an 80's discovery. Dave Banks Which dj played this? Never seen this on any 'wheel list' or cd. Must have been a super rare find back then. Ed
Guest Soulatthedale Posted February 17, 2018 Posted February 17, 2018 Surprised there hasnt been much (if any) Motown that was played at the Wheel. What were the most popular Motown records there, i would guess the Temps and Martha and the Vandellas were the most popular?
Mod66 Posted February 17, 2018 Posted February 17, 2018 Before everyone lost their way and were ' Going loco with Bernadette under the boardwalk whilst singing the Onion song!! We had these real Motown classics Love is like an itching in my heart -Supremes Why when the love has gone - Isley Brothers To name just two............................................. Paul (AKA Mod 66)
Guest Posted February 17, 2018 Posted February 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, Mod66 said: Before everyone lost their way and were ' Going loco with Bernadette under the boardwalk whilst singing the Onion song!! We had these real Motown classics Love is like an itching in my heart -Supremes Why when the love has gone - Isley Brothers To name just two............................................. Paul (AKA Mod 66) Oh, you're a little darling for posting that one! I mean, put yourself in my place, and you'd think that heaven must have sent you!!!!!!!!!!!! Can I get a witness to this, or am I just being a little too peculiar? Must be off, got a go-go to attend this afternoon.
Mod66 Posted February 17, 2018 Posted February 17, 2018 Oh yes. Nice one Joey Stoke tonight and coming up for the Wheel next week on 25th I'm sure Pete will deliver the goods Paul (AKA Mod66)
Stevegods Posted February 17, 2018 Author Posted February 17, 2018 17 hours ago, Kegsy said: I didn't say it was played Bri and i didnt say it was a good sound. I just thought it might have been as it became a bit of a collectors item not long after the Wheel shut. Which other "crap" posted on here so far do you reckon wasn't played ?. I never went to the Wheel, but went to places 68/69/70 where lads who did go dj'ed or brought records in for the dj to play. Lots of “ Crap “ played at a lot of venues Kegsy ... none more so than in the main room at Wigan ... but one mans junk is another mans treasure I guess . To each his/her own 👍
Kenb Posted February 17, 2018 Posted February 17, 2018 I make no comment about the record itself. But 'On Topic' sounds....then
bri phill Posted February 17, 2018 Posted February 17, 2018 18 hours ago, Kegsy said: I didn't say it was played Bri and i didnt say it was a good sound. I just thought it might have been as it became a bit of a collectors item not long after the Wheel shut. Which other "crap" posted on here so far do you reckon wasn't played ?. I never went to the Wheel, but went to places 68/69/70 where lads who did go dj'ed or brought records in for the dj to play. Without going through it all again P.J.Proby (played after the wheel and the Shirelles track spring to mind Kegsy
Theothertosspot Posted February 19, 2018 Posted February 19, 2018 On 14/02/2018 at 13:57, dylan said: Did any of today’s big money records get played as far back as the wheel ? Four Tracks on Mandingo
Tomangoes Posted February 19, 2018 Posted February 19, 2018 Great record. Who played it, what year, and where was it likely to have come from? Just wondering when the rare stuff started to get played. Ed
Mr Fred Posted February 19, 2018 Posted February 19, 2018 At the time, what we now refer to as regular wheel sounds, we're new sounds that were breaking and each Dj used to have records in their collection which no other Dj had so you went to hear the sounds that a particular Dj had. Regards Fred.
Tomangoes Posted February 19, 2018 Posted February 19, 2018 So all the DJ's had records of this quality and rarity? It must have been the beginning of the end of playing 'normal' records easy to get etc Ed
Guest Posted February 19, 2018 Posted February 19, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, tomangoes said: So all the DJ's had records of this quality and rarity? It must have been the beginning of the end of playing 'normal' records easy to get etc Ed To be honest, I can't remember the Four Tracks being played ANYWHERE, back then. Then again, it WAS a long time ago, and the mists of time grow thicker by the day! as far as all DJs having rare stuff that no one else had, no, not really, most of the ones I knew in 71 and early 72 had very similar boxes and playlists. Some obviously had one or two that others hadn't, but by and large 71 saw most clubs playing very similar stuff. Later on in the middle of 72 things began to change, but very few had boxes rammed full of stuff that others didn't. Pep and Levine led the way, at the Mecca and Cats, with guys like Tony Jebb, Alan Day, and Barry Tasker also deserving an honourable mention. Many others who's names I've forgotten will also be remembered by others, I'm sure. Edited February 19, 2018 by Guest
Mr Fred Posted February 19, 2018 Posted February 19, 2018 My point is exactly what I've said, most of the Dj's then didn't have the same records for example Sandie Sheldon you"re gonna make me love you. Only a few Dj's had a copy. Also Leon haywood Baby Reconsider. Alexander Patton A Lil lovin' sometimes. At this time shed loads of soul sounds were breaking onto the scene and if a Dj got them he had an exclusive until someone managed to hold of a copy.All the Twisted Wheel Dj's had a collection which to a degree was unique to them and yes there were some records which they all had.I'm not sure what you mean by a "normal " record. Regards Fred.
Guest Posted February 19, 2018 Posted February 19, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Mr Fred said: My point is exactly what I've said, most of the Dj's then didn't have the same records for example Sandie Sheldon you"re gonna make me love you. Only a few Dj's had a copy. Also Leon haywood Baby Reconsider. Alexander Patton A Lil lovin' sometimes. At this time shed loads of soul sounds were breaking onto the scene and if a Dj got them he had an exclusive until someone managed to hold of a copy.All the Twisted Wheel Dj's had a collection which to a degree was unique to them and yes there were some records which they all had.I'm not sure what you mean by a "normal " record. Regards Fred. Hiya Fred, I may be being presumptuous, but I think he may mean one that had been on general release at some point in the UK, the type most of us had in our boxes/collections. Many of the ones posted on this thread I suppose. I owned a lot of rarer stuff, and also knew lots who had Alexander Patten, and other rare British discs, but you're right, in that I knew none who could brag about having Sandi Sheldon or Leon Heywood. Some of the stuff that became really big in the summer of 72 was like rocking horse shit just a few months before. Or am I getting my years mixed up again. Damn you Durophet, I'm getting far too confused. Maybe time for a large brandy😂😂😂😂😂 Edited February 19, 2018 by Guest
Tomangoes Posted February 19, 2018 Posted February 19, 2018 Most records listed so far could be considered normal. UK releases, Motown imports, Atlantic//Stax/etc Perhaps had to find, but not unique. Now we are getting US labels like Soul Power and Mandingo stated as Wheel tunes. It must have been a big shift when that happened. No doubt some Wheelers may not have appreciated it, as presumably between 65 and 70 they must have been able to get their hands on most of the tunes played. I've also noted the inclusion of exclusivity, where you want to hear these new super rare records, you had to go to the event where the DJ was playing. That must have been a throwback to when the wheel first started playing the rare and hard to get UK dance records. You guys who lived through it from say 65 onwards were so lucky! Ed
Dylan Posted February 20, 2018 Posted February 20, 2018 10 hours ago, theothertosspot said: Four Tracks on Mandingo That seems like a strange record to have been played at the wheel compared to all others i think off around that era. the tempo and style of the record must have made it stick out like a sore thumb. 2
Davenpete Posted February 20, 2018 Posted February 20, 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, theothertosspot said: Four Tracks on Mandingo Les Cokell told us he discovered the Four Tracks (it's certainly archetypal Les) - however he also said that it was when he was doing the Mecca - not when he was playing the Wheel. Dx Edited February 20, 2018 by DaveNPete 1
bri phill Posted February 20, 2018 Posted February 20, 2018 A lot of rarer tracks played in 69/70 weren't easy to find at the time. Most of them became easier by 71/72 when imports started flooding in.So collectors and other DJs were able to pick the rare british stuff up on import along with the known imports and newly discovered stuff.
Kenb Posted February 20, 2018 Posted February 20, 2018 11 hours ago, tomangoes said: So all the DJ's had records of this quality and rarity? It must have been the beginning of the end of playing 'normal' records easy to get etc Ed the club also owned many records itself (until they went...let's say missing)
Roburt Posted February 20, 2018 Posted February 20, 2018 Inially, you chased UK released stuff ... when those copies dried up, you bought import copies of stuff that you knew from UK release ... then postal dealers started selling (by auction) loads of US imports that hadn't gained UK release. I'd scan the lists for artists I knew, or labels I knew and buy blind, bidding low values for each ... I seem to recall the bids started as low as 2/6 (12p) ... I'd win some of em, not others ... some I won would be great (I liked all soul, fast, slow, funk, southern, Detroit, New York, LA), so it was easy for me as I had wide tastes. Others would be dross but overall, it was worth bidding in that style (I got Slow Fizz -- the Sapphires early on but never liked it much coz of the stupid lyrics, so I sold it on). Not long after this, outlets such as Soul City and F L Moores were selling imports by the box load, I also started to get lists from a NY area vinyl warehouse where stuff on little labels started at 10c, Motown / Stax at 25c ... again I'd buy lots of stuff blind. Then around 1970, Contempo started selling loads of imports, many being US copies of in-demand club tracks ... so it was possible to get hold of 'rare stuff' (by mid 70's standards) but it was very much a hit & miss affair with you picking up a Tobi Legend, Valentinos, Spooners Crowd, Reuben Wright, Steve Mancha by chance more than design. 1
Dylan Posted February 20, 2018 Posted February 20, 2018 Roburt (and all other late 60s early 70s collectors) did you have a sense you were at the start of something that was going to be very special, huge and long lating at the time or did you think it was going to be short lived ?
Kegsy Posted February 20, 2018 Posted February 20, 2018 2 hours ago, dylan said: Roburt (and all other late 60s early 70s collectors) did you have a sense you were at the start of something that was going to be very special, huge and long lating at the time or did you think it was going to be short lived ? I can't speak for Robert but we were there at a moment in time and I don't think anybody gave much thought to anything but getting some gear, getting blocked and getting to the nighter . Although we may have considered the scene ours and special at the time. Work Monday (maybe), then all that mattered was scoring and transport to the nighter the next weekend, getting home was always an afterthought. 2
Stevegods Posted February 20, 2018 Author Posted February 20, 2018 (edited) Johnny Guitar Watson, Big Joe Turner, Chuck Berry, Sunny Terry, Brownie McGhee, Screaming Jay Hawkins, Little Richard, Bo Diddley, Jimmy Reed, Hubert Sumlin, Howlin Wolf, Buddy Guy, John Lee Hooker, Carl Perkins, Fred Below, Gary US Bonds, Eddie Boyd, The Chants, Charlie and Inez Foxx, Clifton James, Rev. Gary Davis, Sugar Pie Desanto, Willie Dixon, Sleepy John Estes, Hammie Nixon, Lightning Hopkins, J B Lenoir, Jerry Lee Lewis, Larry Williams, Little Walter, Lonesome Jimmy Lee, Memphis Slim, Millie Small, Otis Span, Jimmy Reed, Doctor Ross, Joe Richardson, The Shirelles, Sunny Boy Williamson, Sunnyland Slim, Roosevelt Sykes, Eddie Playboy Taylor, Big Mamma Thornton, T-Bone Walker, Walter Horton, Muddy Waters. The Rolling Stones, Tony McPhee and The Groundhogs, Alex Harvey, Johnny Cash, Duane Eddy ... All of the above played or visited the club in the early to mid 60’s , lots more artists followed in the footsteps after, as the music developed and grew .. it wasnt Northern Soul then ... it’s was just good and some not so good, early R&B .. but grew and grew , into what we know and love now. To know where we are going , it somethings helps to know where we have come from .. Keep ‘em coming Edited February 20, 2018 by stevegods
earlvandykes6 Posted February 26, 2018 Posted February 26, 2018 On 14/02/2018 at 18:04, Kenb said: 'WHAT CAN A MAN DO' ...probably most remembered for its A-side - The ShowStoppers Purchased My Copy Backstage At " BELE VUE " Elizabeathan From " LADDIE BURKE " ( Lead vocalist ) He Signed The Only Piece Of Paper In My Pocket " Chess / Checker Appreciation Society - Membership Card " He Said The Box Of Vinyl Had Just Been Picked Up From Being Pressed ?? .
earlvandykes6 Posted February 26, 2018 Posted February 26, 2018 On 15/02/2018 at 21:11, Joey said: Sweet Jesus. Another one I'd forgotten even existed. The last time I heard "the right kind" must have been in about 71, in my local youth club. What a quality dancer. Just storming. And some people still pooh-pooh "the oldies" saying they're totally played out. Then they rave about some tripe with a £3000 price tag that we'd probably have turned into an ashtray back in the day. The A side? I remember almost fifty years ago having a very heated debate with someone about its relative merits vis a vis the SDG version. Still prefer the latter! Can't thank you enough for posting this!👍 I Still Have my Copy ! , Both Sides Were Played - But The " Right Kind " Did Not Get As Much Reaction , After The Wheel Closed It Began To Get Some Reaction ? I Still Like It's FEEL With That Piano Sounding Not Unlike " Choker Campbell " - Hits Of The Sixties 1965 L.p. Released On Tamla Motown .
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