A little Togetherness Question

[Patto]

Hi Guys

Sorry to inflict this one on you but after reading through the many threads on this i havent managed to grasp the answer to this question.

Im Aware that there are 3 original label releases of A little Togetherness on Canterbury,Soultown,and Zea.Im also aware that one of the cuts is longer with a different arrangement to the lyrics before the corus.The running times on the labels are all over the place as follows.

Tempos-- Little Togetherness---Canterbury   3.15

Younghearts---Little Togetherness---Canterbury   2.45

Younghearts---A Little Togetherness---Canterbury  2.33

New Younghearts--- A little Togetherness---Soultown   2.48

Kings of Hearts--A little Togetherness--- Zea 2.40

Question is which cut is the longer version arrangement found on.Is it just the Tempos credited one.

 

Edited December 21, 2017 by Patto

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Patto said:

Hi Guys

Sorry to inflict this one on you but after reading through the many threads on this i havent managed to grasp the answer to this question.

Im Aware that there are 3 original label releases of A little Togetherness on Canterbury,Soultown,and Zea.Im also aware that one of the cuts is longer with a different arrangement to the lyrics before the corus.The running times on the labels are all over the place as follows.

Tempos-- Little Togetherness---Canterbury   3.15

Younghearts---Little Togetherness---Canterbury   2.45

Younghearts---A Little Togetherness---Canterbury  2.33

New Younghearts--- A little Togetherness---Soultown   2.48

Kings of Hearts--A little Togetherness--- Zea 2.40

Question is which cut is the longer version arrangement found on.Is it just the Tempos credited one.

 

But is The Tempos 3.15 long, or does it just say that on the label? 

I don't think The Tempos was a proper release, just The Younghearts with the wrong label stuck on. 

The other side of the Tempos record is credited to the Younghearts and is "Beginning Of The End"

Also I have never seen a white demo of the so called Tempos release!  All the Canterburys around this number have white demos.

I think the Tempos stock label was printed, they changed there minds to The Younghearts, and was never supposed to be used.  Someone at the pressing plant could have loaded these on the machine by mistake.

Edited December 21, 2017 by Guest

[Woodbutcher]

Tempo's about 2:30 ... 

[Patto]

Right ive just done some trawling to listen to the different versions and come up with this

The Canterbury copies the first time the lyric A LITTLE TOGETHERNESS is uttered is at approx 51 seconds.This is also same in the Zea copies Kings of Hearts.

However in the Soultown Copies New Younghearts there is an extra verse starting as YOU DONT HAVE TO BE A MILLIONAIRE.The A little Togetherness line comes in far later at approx 1.20.

So the New Younghearts is diff mix

[Mick Holdsworth]

Tempos is normal version, as are "nearly" all the Younghrearts / Canterbury releases (All the times on labels only confuse. They're all the same.)

New Younghearts on Soultown is the longer version (Now you don't have to be baby - a millionaire . . . . )

The third release as Kings Of Hearts / Zea reverted back to the Canterbury short version.

[Patto]

Just now, Mick Holdsworth said:

Tempos is normal version, as are "nearly" all the Younghrearts / Canterbury releases (All the times on labels only confuse. They're all the same.)

New Younghearts on Soultown is the longer version (Now you don't have to be baby - a millionaire . . . . )

The third release as Kings Of Hearts / Zea reverted back to the Canterbury short version.

Thank you Mick that backs up what ive discovered myself by listening to the diff versions

[Mick Holdsworth]

1 minute ago, Patto said:

Thank you Mick that backs up what ive discovered myself by listening to the diff versions

Yep. think we posted at the same time.

The reason I said "nearly" all the Younghearts are the same short version is because there is an anomaly.

It is Canterbury release, styrene, as "Little Togetherness" by Younghearts that plays the long Millionaire version. It has the same Delta number but a slightly different matrix to the equivalent short version. It used the same labels as the normal "Little Togetherness" short version (with the same short time) so is only obvious through playing it, or being completely familiar with the matrixes.

In all my years of searching for this, the only persion who ever mentioned it was DJ Honkey in NY

Cheers
Mick

[Roburt]

The Younghearts / King of Hearts / New Younghearts story is equally as baffling as the story behind this track of theirs. Bobby Sanders (who's started out singing in Doo Wop groups) had obviously learnt well during his performing days and by the mid 60's had taken to messing the acts he'd signed about. So, members of the group (the whole line-up at times) would quit his management and go out on their own. At times, there would be two versions of the group playing gigs just down the road from each other in LA. When one set quit, he'd just approach another soul group, sign them to a deal and start cutting them as the Younghearts. He set on one Cleveland soul group, right after they'd relocated to LA, as a new version of the Younghearts. But on one of their 1st LA gigs, they met up with the old group members, heard their story and immediately quit themselves.

So, the group's history is most complicated too ...