Guest Spain pete Posted September 3, 2017 Posted September 3, 2017 Never was a dancer ,that's why SIDS to my mind is From a musical superiority streets Ahead 🎶🎶🎶👌 53 minutes ago, sunnysoul said: Yep, Sidney's version is very nice although to be honest the rhythm plods along to some degree and sounds as though Leiber & Stoller left the sound microphones for the instruments in the laundry while the orchestra played in the room next door ... whereas Jerry Cook is right upfront and just hits you in the face from the very first note and demands that you move your feet as fast as they can take you. Matter of fact, if someone asked "name one record that epitomises the (60's) northern soul sound" , I'd have no problem at all if they put forward Jerry Cook's record. It really stands right up there as one of the greatest dancers to ever hit the scene.
Popular Post Steve S 60 Posted September 3, 2017 Popular Post Posted September 3, 2017 (edited) I have analysed both tracks, and SB clocks in at 138 bpm, whereas JC is a more sprightly 158 bpm. This explains why Jerry gets the job done in 2 mins 44 whilst Sidney takes almost 3 minutes to get the message across. No surprise to anyone that Jerry's version is the faster of the two. In another test, I found that 9 out of 10 cats preferred the Jerry Cook version.... Cat A - Sidney Barnes.... Cat B - Jerry Cook..... Edited September 3, 2017 by Steve S 60 6
Sunnysoul Posted September 3, 2017 Posted September 3, 2017 (edited) Sidney Barnes to Jerry Cook is like Jimmy Breedlove to Paul Anka ... Edited September 3, 2017 by sunnysoul
Robbk Posted September 3, 2017 Posted September 3, 2017 Wow! I feel important! Here, a "furriner", I, a non-Northern Soulie. represent the one-vote lead! I should have asked for bribes on which way to vote, before voting! I could have made some scratch! 1
maslar Posted September 3, 2017 Posted September 3, 2017 Both are great but my slight preference is for Sidney Barnes - I really don't get the disparaging remarks aired regarding his vocals - he sings it perfectly in my book. Pretty baffling. As an aside I also think Standing On Solid Ground is a pretty decent record.
Soulman58 Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 On 28/08/2017 at 08:35, mike said: A weekly which version poll.. a revived topic brought this one up all you need to do is just select the version of these two that you enjoy the most! this one Sidney Barnes - I Hurt On The Other Side or Jerry Cook Jerry Cook - I Hurt On The Other Side just voice your choice or version via the poll buttons at the top as always feel free to expand, explain, educate etc etc via replies below! I can't believe Sidney is in the lead. The next thing you'll find is Leicester winning the Premier league!!! You live and learn. For me no contest Jerry by a country mile. 1
Steve S 60 Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Sydney's won it, but with a much reduced majority. Jexit means Jexit, so all copies of Jerry Cook will be sold to fund the Russell Winstanley Home for Retired Soulies. 2 1
Sunnysoul Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 18 hours ago, bri phill said: The people who were there at The Wheel ,The Cats and The Torch when Jerry was first played I'm pretty sure would have thought there's no competition, Sidney appeals more to the smoother end Mecca etc. and pails into significance. Which prompts the thought that maybe in the earliest days of the scene, the Sidney Barnes record was in fact known and possibly played a few times but then discarded as not quite making the grade and then Jerry Cook was discovered and the rest as they say is history ...
Mike Posted September 4, 2017 Author Posted September 4, 2017 ok its now all over Hopefully the poll gave some a few minutes enjoyment over the week Thanks to all those who took part be it the voting and/or the discussing Sidney winning by a narrow margin... over to you Sidney...
Guest Spain pete Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Maybe somebody or something will put jerry on the other side( bootleggers delight )😤
bri phill Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 2 hours ago, sunnysoul said: Which prompts the thought that maybe in the earliest days of the scene, the Sidney Barnes record was in fact known and possibly played a few times but then discarded as not quite making the grade and then Jerry Cook was discovered and the rest as they say is history ... I originally found Jerry Cook along with Robert Banks in 69 bought them blind because of the name cook and Banks for 2/6d each. Sidney Barnes was not discovered untill late 72 I think by that time Jerry was more of a oldie and obviously DJs wanted to play more new discoveries. 2
Peter99 Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 1 hour ago, mike said: ok its now all over Hopefully the poll gave some a few minutes enjoyment over the week Thanks to all those who took part be it the voting and/or the discussing Sidney winning by a narrow margin... over to you Sidney... 1 hour ago, mike said: ok its now all over Hopefully the poll gave some a few minutes enjoyment over the week Thanks to all those who took part be it the voting and/or the discussing Sidney winning by a narrow margin... over to you Sidney... It was a splendid jaunt Mike. Keep em coming. Pete Quote 1
Hooker1951 Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 22 hours ago, tlscapital said: 22 hours ago, Peter99 said: One gets the feeling that the last few commenters are trying to suggest that those that voted for Sid did so because they're either old, know nothing about the rarity of records, weren't around in the old days and that you know for a fact that Jerry Cook is the better record. All of which is absolute cobblers. In my opinion Sidney is the more soulful of the two - that's it. You can try and intelectulise it till the cows come home but you won't change my mind. Pete I've been into soul since 1963 was born in 1951 rarity of records doesn't come into it we are judging the best version of a tune so being an anorack doesn't matter in the judgement I was into it before the old days and Jerry Cooks version knocks the cobblers of Sid,s and I've been a DJ and a dancer so you won't change my mind Sid,s version is a mediocre NS sound Jerry,s hits you right between the eyes no offence meant peace on earth ML 3
Steve S 60 Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Well, my horse came a close second, but I'll definitely be backing The Invitations against Wigan's Ovation in the Skiing In The Snow poll. 1
Bruv Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Really good thread Mike Looking forward to the next one 1
Widnes63 Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 4 hours ago, Bruv said: Really good thread Mike Looking forward to the next one Ditto !!!!
Chris Turnbull Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Any suggestions? Darrell Banks or JJ Barnes Yum Yums or Sapphires Van Dykes or Temptations
Steve S 60 Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Chris Turnbull said: Any suggestions? Darrell Banks or JJ Barnes Yum Yums or Sapphires Van Dykes or Temptations Sidney could do the double against the Ad Libs. Edited September 4, 2017 by Steve S 60
Peter99 Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Chris Turnbull said: Any suggestions? Darrell Banks or JJ Barnes Yum Yums or Sapphires Van Dykes or Temptations Yum Yums all day. The under produced, raw, girly vocals are something quite special. If anyone disagrees I'll fight em for it! Pete
Robbk Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Stevie Wonder or Darrell Banks Darrell Banks or Ike & Tina Turner Al Kent or Jackie Wilson Four Tops or The Magnificents Kim Weston or Alice Clark Cynthia & Imaginations or Thelma Lindsey
Pete S Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 19 minutes ago, Peter99 said: Yum Yums all day. The under produced, raw, girly vocals are something quite special. If anyone disagrees I'll fight em for it! Pete My favourite record of all time. Yum Yums I mean. By the way, if anyone has the Sapphires version, flip it over, the B side is sensational, "You'll never stop me from loving you". I didn't vote in this current poll because I don't like either version or the song itself.
Robbk Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Marlena Shaw or Marvin & Tammi or Messengers Frank Wilson or Chris Clark Chris Clark or The Underdogs Brenda Holloway or Mickey McCullers The Marvelettes or Baby Washington The Marvelettes or The Velvelettes Emanuel Lasky or Silky Hargeaves The Two Friends or Tammi Terrell Brenda Holloway or Mary Wells Betty Everett or Ramona King, or Merry Clayton The Pirates (Temptations) or Nolan Strong & Diablos
Robbk Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 (edited) Jan Bradley or Major Lance Major Lance or Otis Leavill Major Lance or Gene Chandler Vera Lynn or The Checkers or The Robins Leadbelly or The Originals The Contours or William Weatherspoon The Monitors or The Temptations Gladys Knight & The Pips or Jimmy Ruffin Darrell Banks or Jackie Wilson Billy Butler & Enchanters or Major Lance Edited September 4, 2017 by RobbK
Guest Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 I did mention to Mike, Billy Butler, Theresa Lindsey or Jean Carter.
Peter99 Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 31 minutes ago, Pete S said: My favourite record of all time. Yum Yums I mean. By the way, if anyone has the Sapphires version, flip it over, the B side is sensational, "You'll never stop me from loving you". I didn't vote in this current poll because I don't like either version or the song itself. Ay up Smiffy. I hope all is well mate. I knew you would agree on the Yum Yums - raw, naive but absolutely beautiful record. The vocals and lyrics are sublime. One I always forget when talking about favourite records - but its definitely one of mine. Pete
Bruv Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 James Brown or Gene Chandler There Was A Time. James is very good, But Gene absolutely nailed it..... 1
Hooker1951 Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 Temptations or Gene Chandler. { Check Yourself) ML
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