Tomangoes Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 Back in the day when we all loved those pop records... Ed 1
Tomangoes Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 (edited) Big pop tune back in the late 70s Ed Edited January 26, 2018 by tomangoes Posted twice by mistake sorry.
Soul-slider Posted January 26, 2018 Author Posted January 26, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, guest said: Pretty sure these were also 'The Stocking Tops' and had a Northern tune on UK Toast... Edited January 26, 2018 by Soul-Slider
Dayo Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 Anyone mentioned the lovely Paula Parfitt record on Beacon, yet? And how about Invitation by the band of Angels? 2
Soul-slider Posted January 26, 2018 Author Posted January 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Dayo said: Anyone mentioned the lovely Paula Parfitt record on Beacon, yet? And how about Invitation by the band of Angels? 2 great 45s, both UK recorded and just as good as any 'blue-eyed Northern' coming out of the USA. 1
Soul-slider Posted January 27, 2018 Author Posted January 27, 2018 A good one from these guys IMO....
Soul-slider Posted January 27, 2018 Author Posted January 27, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, tomangoes said: Big big big Wigan Popster Ed Great song but the photo is not them, this was a cover-up for a group called 'The Construction' (who are blue-eyed btw). The group pictured are the Del-Capris but they are an acapella group from New Jersey and had NO soul releases. Here's the proper 45... ...and to confuse matters even more there was a soul group called 'The Del Capris' (no hyphen) who had a NS release on 'Ronjerdon' with a similar title 'Hey Little Girl' but I believe they were a black group. Edited January 27, 2018 by Soul-Slider
Tomangoes Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Soul-Slider said: Great song but the photo is not them, this was a cover-up for a group called 'The Construction' (who are blue-eyed btw). The group pictured are the Del-Capris but they are an acapella group from New Jersey and had NO soul releases. Here's the proper 45... Got it.....now for a picture of them?
Soul-slider Posted January 27, 2018 Author Posted January 27, 2018 31 minutes ago, tomangoes said: Got it.....now for a picture of them? That's the trouble with these 'one release' groups, there never seems to be any photos or info
LLM Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 (edited) On 1/17/2018 at 09:54, Henning v Herzen said: I'm a huge lover of this genre and my collection grows and grows. Especially i love the Carolina/Virginia area. I did 2 mixes a while ago for those who are interested. Feedback would be very welcome.... What is the 2nd track on the Blue-eyed Soul mix? Edited January 27, 2018 by LLM
Guest Posted January 28, 2018 Posted January 28, 2018 Not seen this on here unless I missed it. Quote
Guest Posted January 28, 2018 Posted January 28, 2018 This was one of my faves back in the day when I could move a little bit :-) Quote
Henning V Herzen Posted January 28, 2018 Posted January 28, 2018 8 hours ago, LLM said: What is the 2nd track on the Blue-eyed Soul mix? Les mack & impacts - so blue
Soul-slider Posted January 28, 2018 Author Posted January 28, 2018 6 hours ago, Majy said: This was one of my faves back in the day when I could move a little bit :-) The Village Sound...
Mgm 1251 Posted January 28, 2018 Posted January 28, 2018 The Impact Express on the Seaside,Oregon, based Lavender label must surely be a blue eyed group.....couldn’t put a vintage on the disc,and there couldn’t of been that much soul coming out of Oregon... 1
Soul-slider Posted January 28, 2018 Author Posted January 28, 2018 10 minutes ago, MGM 1251 said: The Impact Express on the Seaside,Oregon, based Lavender label must surely be a blue eyed group.....couldn’t put a vintage on the disc,and there couldn’t of been that much soul coming out of Oregon... 45 is from 1966. Originally called the Impacts (they had another on 'Lavender' as The Impacts prior to this release)... 1
Mgm 1251 Posted January 28, 2018 Posted January 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Soul-Slider said: 45 is from 1966. Originally called the Impacts (they had another on 'Lavender' as The Impacts prior to this release)... ...cheers for that,bud...I always thought it was a bit later(69-70)....flip good too,same style of “rocky”soul........ 1
Mgm 1251 Posted January 28, 2018 Posted January 28, 2018 (edited) Raleigh,N.C... ...presumably,Don Ray(RCA),Don Ray Sampson(E RECORDS),and Donald Ray(BEE&TEE),are all one,and blessed with blue eyes....out of the three,I think this is the hardest to get hold of... Edited January 29, 2018 by MGM 1251 1
Winsford Soul Posted January 28, 2018 Posted January 28, 2018 Anthem. Doesn't get any better . Blue eyed soul Steve 2
Tomangoes Posted January 28, 2018 Posted January 28, 2018 Bought this about 1978, never heard it out, but have seen it a few times on some playlists over the last few years. Ed 1
Mgm 1251 Posted January 29, 2018 Posted January 29, 2018 ...another one that fits the bill... ...I believe they are blue eyed,from Philadelphia,perfect NS with Hammond keyboard,stabbing trumpets and superb backing vocals.. .. 1
Guest Josep Manuel Concernau Robles Posted January 29, 2018 Posted January 29, 2018 Bill Champlin (I think this cover was done after the one by Tavares):
Soul-slider Posted January 29, 2018 Author Posted January 29, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, MGM 1251 said: ...another one that fits the bill... ...I believe they are blue eyed,from Philadelphia,perfect NS with Hammond keyboard,stabbing trumpets and superb backing vocals.. .. Yeah, I have that 45. I been trying to find out about these guys, I'm not 100% sure they are a blue-eyed group? The other 'Casinos' on 'Terry', Airtown' and 'Fraternity' are a white group from Cincinnati whilst as you say these are from Philly. Edited January 29, 2018 by Soul-Slider
Soul-slider Posted January 29, 2018 Author Posted January 29, 2018 (edited) The Cincinnati Casino's... Edited January 29, 2018 by Soul-Slider 1
Mgm 1251 Posted January 29, 2018 Posted January 29, 2018 42 minutes ago, Soul-Slider said: The Cincinnati Casino's... You are right,the DelVal disc does have a different sound about it,compared to the Terry and Fraternity recordings....
Gointoagogo Posted January 29, 2018 Posted January 29, 2018 Edie Walker - Good Guys - now this is a guilty pleasure from way back! 1
Guest Posted January 29, 2018 Posted January 29, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, gointoagogo said: Edie Walker - Good Guys - now this is a guilty pleasure from way back! Covered up as somebody Valentine if I remember correctly? Just found it on youtube lol - played out as Patience Valentine in 70s Edited January 29, 2018 by Guest
clevesoulie Posted January 30, 2018 Posted January 30, 2018 Deadbeats a/k/a Dynamic Deadbeats Band, out of Virginia. They traveled to Philly to cut their single as the Deadbeats, which got issued on the Strata label. Best, Mark 1
Soul-slider Posted January 30, 2018 Author Posted January 30, 2018 7 hours ago, clevesoulie said: Deadbeats a/k/a Dynamic Deadbeats Band, out of Virginia. They traveled to Philly to cut their single as the Deadbeats, which got issued on the Strata label. Best, Mark Great one from them Mark...
Dayo Posted January 30, 2018 Posted January 30, 2018 How about Stella Starr? Was she a white singer? In some ways I prefer the production on her version of Bring Him Back. More oomph! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anLB5456t9w
Soul-slider Posted January 30, 2018 Author Posted January 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Dayo said: How about Stella Starr? Was she a white singer? In some ways I prefer the production on her version of Bring Him Back. More oomph! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anLB5456t9w Stella Starr was born in Johannesburg, you can actually hear her African tinged English on the flip of 'Bring Him Back' with the J.J Barnes Ric-Tic track 'Say It'.
Popular Post maslar Posted January 31, 2018 Popular Post Posted January 31, 2018 To state the obvious - soul music is soul music - a convenient marketing term used to describe black popular music at the start of the 60s. The term "blue eyed soul" as far as I'm aware was used by black artists initially to describe a white artist/record who sounded black (at a time when most listeners first heard records on the radio). And not in a disparaging manner at all. In essence it's a largely meaningless term beyond that and therefore open to distortion - as seen on this thread. Even back in the 60s confusion abound. For example reading Dave Godins piece in B&S on discovering Dean Parrish is white and his subsequent befuddled response. Not that it should have come as any great revelation to him. After all years previously the first wave of visitng Motown artists had suggested Tom Jones as an example of a white soul singer. Obviously something DG didn't take on board. What most refer to as "blue-eyed soul I would call "pop-soul". That grey area where elements of soul and white pop mix (usually obviously white pop vocal and typically soulful orchestration. David and the Giants is brilliant pop-soul. Move a slight step to the soul side and you've got the Drifters (still usually pop-soul to me). Is pop-soul real soul music? Not really. The strange thing is that back in the day there seemed to be a more relaxed attitude about it all. Also, it's notable that white artists who actually did get played on black radio stations in the States in the 60s eg Bobby Gentry and Lulu aren't mentioned at all on this thread. 4
Tomangoes Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 True, but the thread has now become a platform for any white (ish) artist who had a record played on the scene. Reminiscing, IN MOST CASES........ Another example..A very good pop/soul group! Ed 1
Guest Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, maslar said: Is pop-soul real soul music? Not really. Sorry mate I cannot agree with that at all. Soul music is any music that has a soulful feeling/sound. The term Soul Music was used way back in the 20's and had nothing to do with the 60's Also about the term Blue eyed Soul. Georgie Woods, a Philadelphia radio DJ, is thought to have coined the term "blue-eyed soul" in 1964, initially to describe The Righteous Brothers, then white artists in general who received airplay on rhythm and blues radio stations. It had nothing to do with sounding black. There are many records from back in the day that were promoted as soul even if they did sound like pop music and this was from Motown, Fame, Stax, Chess etc etc etc. Northern Soul however is a different animal all together. Northern Soul is first and foremost a dance orientated movement and therefore encompasses a wide range of sounds. This is where Northern Soul differs from the Blues & Soul of the 50's and 60's So is pop soul real soul? Most Definitely it is. Quote https://www.coursera.org/learn/history-of-rock/lecture/qcja1/motown-stax-the-british-invasion-and-the-american-response-6-37 Edited January 31, 2018 by Guest
The Yank Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 7 hours ago, maslar said: T. Also, it's notable that white artists who actually did get played on black radio stations in the States in the 60s eg Bobby Gentry and Lulu aren't mentioned at all on this thread. As someone who listened to black radio stations in the 60's, I don't remember Bobbie Gentry or Lulu receiving much airplay at all. As far as I can tell, the only Bobbie Gentry 45 that ever hit the Soul charts was "Ode To Billie Joe" which was all over the radio. I think Lulu might have made the Soul charts twice(?) and I'm guessing with "To Sir With Love" or with "Oh Me, Oh My...". If there were more , I stand corrected and learned something today. Also, on the other side- The Pointer Sisters won a Grammy in 1975 for "Best Country Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocal" for "Fairytale". I doubt if anyone considers the Pointer Sisters Country artists. There were lots of records you would never think would make the Soul Charts that received airplay. Legendary Chicago deejay Herb Kent had his "Dusties" show on weekends and while 95% was what you would expect. there were some surprises. These songs were also played- Tommy James and The Shondells- "Crystal Blue Persuasion", Tito Puente- "Ti Mon Bo", Martin Denny- "Quiet Village" among others. These two really surprised me - Frankie Avalon- "Venus" and Percy Faith "Theme From A Summer Place". I guess Blue Eyed Soul is getting to be a confusing term. 1
Mgm 1251 Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 Lulu did a vocal to Ed Bishop’s “call me”(UK DECCA)under the same title...it’s pretty good too..
Mike Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, MGM 1251 said: Lulu did a vocal to Ed Bishop’s “call me”(UK DECCA)under the same title...it’s pretty good too.. think thats maybe the wrong way round? an instrumental 'soul'version of cheesy mor pop ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_Me_(Petula_Clark_song) Edited January 31, 2018 by mike tidy 1
Mgm 1251 Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 Cheers Mike,didn’t know Pet did the orig (1963).....the Lulu release was two years later....what year for Ed Bishop,anybody?
The Yank Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 If ABC released its 45's in order, Eddie Bishop was released right around the same time as Ray Charles' "Let's Go Get Stoned"- so early/mid 66 would be a good guess. 1
Mgm 1251 Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 12 minutes ago, the yank said: If ABC released its 45's in order, Eddie Bishop was released right around the same time as Ray Charles' "Let's Go Get Stoned"- so early/mid 66 would be a good guess. Actually...I got it wrong....Lulu’s version was also ‘66....
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