Sam Williams Rare / great but 2 demo runs - info / help

[Vadnochka]

Never really crossed my mind before but having owned a wlp - no 'A' on label in the mid 90's Sam Williams - Love slipped through my fingers I've noticed that occasionally one is pictured with an 'A' above the Tower logo in posts for sale or youtube. 45 with 'A' appears much less frequently.

For 45 that appears to have never made the transition to red stock copy, any known reason for 2 print runs, are they from different pressing plants? / second attempt to get some action ?

puzzled ? - one of each out there for sale currently

 

Steve

Edited June 5, 2017 by vadnochka

[Dobber]

50 minutes ago, vadnochka said:

Never really crossed my mind before but having owned a wlp - no 'A' on label in the mid 90's Sam Williams - Love slipped through my fingers I've noticed that occasionally one is pictured with an 'A' above the Tower logo in posts for sale or youtube. 45 with 'A' appears much less frequently.

For 45 that appears to have never made the transition to red stock copy, any known reason for 2 print runs, are they from different pressing plants? / second attempt to get some action ?

puzzled ? - one of each out there for sale currently

 

Steve

thats mine on ebay steve,where is another for sale mate?

god knows why there would be any variations on the label,considering it never made it to an issue!

[Garethx]

Never seen the variant of the Sam Williams Tower 45 with an A on the label you mention.

As far as I know there is only one original pressing of this, a white demo on styrene. Label artwork done by Bert & Co. in Los Angeles and pressed at a plant called Rainbo which was a Capitol overflow facility notorious for really poor quality styrene pressings.

[Bo Diddley]

I've just spotted a couple on popsike.

https://www.popsike.com/RARE-NORTHERN-SOUL-LOVE-SLIPPED-THROUGH-SAM-WILLIAMS/190353335320.html

https://www.popsike.com/Rare-Nothern-Soul-Sam-Williams-Original-1967-Tower-DJ-45/391603592616.html

 

 

Edited June 13 by Bo Diddley

[Bo Diddley]

Also just noticed a Four Larks with an A.

 

 

Edited June 13 by Bo Diddley

[Vadnochka]

When I get home I'll have a look at mine !

Steve

[Davetay]

59 minutes ago, bo diddley said:

I've just spotted a couple on popsike.

https://www.popsike.com/RARE-NORTHERN-SOUL-LOVE-SLIPPED-THROUGH-SAM-WILLIAMS/190353335320.html

https://www.popsike.com/Rare-Nothern-Soul-Sam-Williams-Original-1967-Tower-DJ-45/391603592616.html

 

Don't know if it's a bad scan or what, but it doesn't look right somehow to me?

Maybe it is just me seeing something that it not really wrong.

[Dobber]

actually my copy on ebay now,has an A on it,cant say i ever noticed,but it does appear to be a rarity with the A on there.

[Garethx]

4 hours ago, bo diddley said:

I've just spotted a couple on popsike.

https://www.popsike.com/RARE-NORTHERN-SOUL-LOVE-SLIPPED-THROUGH-SAM-WILLIAMS/190353335320.html

https://www.popsike.com/Rare-Nothern-Soul-Sam-Williams-Original-1967-Tower-DJ-45/391603592616.html

 

Those both look OK, although the image above does seem a bit overexposed, thinning out the type a bit. The ballad side has the lower master number which is sometimes indicative of what was indented as the promoted side. Wonder if this is a case of the record company realising at a slightly later date that the dance side should get the nod as the plugged side.

Tower is a really odd label to try to release soul/ R&B on. Sam Williams and Bill Brandon might have had more of a chance of airplay and sales had they been on Uptown or even the main Capitol label.