Thfcliam Posted May 19, 2017 Posted May 19, 2017 (edited) Great record, how often does this come up I saw one sold on discogs for around 150 pounds in 2014 and the promo version sold quite recently for much cheaper.. would love a copy of this. Edited May 19, 2017 by thfcliam 1
Mal C Posted May 19, 2017 Posted May 19, 2017 I bought one with the spoken intro off here within the last 12 months... great record, paid a bit more than 150 though, think it was either 200 or just above... m 1
Guest Posted May 19, 2017 Posted May 19, 2017 There was a look-a-like repress/boot done of this record way back in the late 70's. It looks at first glance like a real one, but the label doesn't have strong colours and the vinyl seems inferior to the original.
Mal C Posted May 19, 2017 Posted May 19, 2017 2 hours ago, solidsoul said: There was a look-a-like repress/boot done of this record way back in the late 70's. It looks at first glance like a real one, but the label doesn't have strong colours and the vinyl seems inferior to the original. is it boot the spoken or short intro? m
Thfcliam Posted May 20, 2017 Author Posted May 20, 2017 13 hours ago, Mal C said: I bought one with the spoken intro off here within the last 12 months... great record, paid a bit more than 150 though, think it was either 200 or just above... m Near Mint then I take it ??
KevH Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 On 19/05/2017 at 19:31, concrete said: Her rarest on the label I'd say its neck and neck rare, with the spoken intro I Need You.
KevH Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 On 19/05/2017 at 21:04, Mal C said: is it boot the spoken or short intro? m The boot is the version which had the most plays bitd. Although spoken version was played at the mecca, don't think we were ready for it back then. Selectadisc knocked em out.
KevH Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 (edited) On 19/05/2017 at 09:42, thfcliam said: Great record, how often does this come up I saw one sold on discogs for around 150 pounds in 2014 and the promo version sold quite recently for much cheaper.. would love a copy of this. Spun the spoken one in April at Diff Strokes. Edited May 24, 2017 by KevH 1
Rick Scott Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 Well i did wonder about this version as the first time the spoken intro came to my ears was back in March this year when my friend and fellow DJ (Dicko) played this at one our Heslam Park Rugby Club Modern Nites, I had to ask what it was because it sounded familiar but could not at the time put my finger on it so i went up and asked him what it was, he told me it was Diane Jenkins and he said 'You used to play it at the Cleethorpe's Pier All Niters' i replied yes i did but it sounded nothing like that ! I looked at his copy and it was identical to mine on looking at it but i then said well, it's a completely different recording to mine ? I used to go to the Blackpool Mecca but can't recollect hearing the spoken intro version. Now bearing in mind i used to play the Instrumental side at the Pier and left the other Gleggy DJ's to play the vocal side I decided to dig my Demo Copy out and have a squint and a listen and It is looking like the 2 different versions bear the same record numbers 12006-A and 12006-B respectively (is that correct?) On the run out surrounding the label on my none intro copy the numbers are as stated above with an additional number neatly scratched in, that being a small TR with a circle around it and next to that, CR 12/74 which leads me to think that means Dec. 1974 Discogs has it as 1975. This is just guess work on my part. As there are some of you that have the spoken intro versions any chance you can have a look and see if the additional letters and numbers differ to mine as to tell which version you are getting when chasing one up. This is a bit like the Curtis 'How can i tell her' one with the bongs and one without although i think there was a slight label variation on that one but not with the Diane Jenkins track, very interested to see if there is a way of telling. 1
Goldsoul Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 2 hours ago, KevH said: The boot is the version which had the most plays bitd. Although spoken version was played at the mecca, don't think we were ready for it back then. Selectadisc knocked em out. Really? Why would anyone boot it at the time? The owner Deke Deberry had hundreds in stock. I was at his house in 1975 and shortly after re-pressed it certainly once
Mal C Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 5 hours ago, RICK SCOTT said: Well i did wonder about this version as the first time the spoken intro came to my ears was back in March this year when my friend and fellow DJ (Dicko) played this at one our Heslam Park Rugby Club Modern Nites, I had to ask what it was because it sounded familiar but could not at the time put my finger on it so i went up and asked him what it was, he told me it was Diane Jenkins and he said 'You used to play it at the Cleethorpe's Pier All Niters' i replied yes i did but it sounded nothing like that ! I looked at his copy and it was identical to mine on looking at it but i then said well, it's a completely different recording to mine ? I used to go to the Blackpool Mecca but can't recollect hearing the spoken intro version. Now bearing in mind i used to play the Instrumental side at the Pier and left the other Gleggy DJ's to play the vocal side I decided to dig my Demo Copy out and have a squint and a listen and It is looking like the 2 different versions bear the same record numbers 12006-A and 12006-B respectively (is that correct?) On the run out surrounding the label on my none intro copy the numbers are as stated above with an additional number neatly scratched in, that being a small TR with a circle around it and next to that, CR 12/74 which leads me to think that means Dec. 1974 Discogs has it as 1975. This is just guess work on my part. As there are some of you that have the spoken intro versions any chance you can have a look and see if the additional letters and numbers differ to mine as to tell which version you are getting when chasing one up. This is a bit like the Curtis 'How can i tell her' one with the bongs and one without although i think there was a slight label variation on that one but not with the Diane Jenkins track, very interested to see if there is a way of telling. Here you go, Spoken intro : Vocal side CF-12006 - II (the II at the end is actually crossed off top and bottom) see scan.. Inst side has 12006b scratched in very small...
Mike Lofthouse Posted May 25, 2017 Posted May 25, 2017 Don't ever remember hearing the 'spoken intro' version back in the day and I loved the record. It was maybe only 10 years ago that I heard it for the first time - I bought a copy off here of one of the well known dealers for £80. Ian Levine championed the record in the first place - he was a big fan of the label and mentioned it often in his BM column at the time. He even printed Deke Deberry's contact info and that's where we got our copies from . Mike Charlton spoke to him on the phone and ordered six copies. The version was well known version and they were 'promo' copies. He was only able to supply five copies so he put in a copy of Tow Away Zone in to make up the order - and that was a real bonus as it was a big want of mine at the time! Just for clarity...... Are the normal issue promo only - does anyone have an issue? Are there promo copies of the spoken issue ? - mine is an issue Are people sure that it was booted - one is mentioned here and there is also a a white on purple copy (which I have). Is it another case of just different pressing runs ordered by the owner to meet demand locally in the US? 1
Chris Turnbull Posted May 25, 2017 Posted May 25, 2017 Nice pic of DJ from discogs. Had a fairly short lived career by the look of it, all on Creative Funk. Surprising given such a powerful voice - reminds me of Linda Jones 1
Jonathan Posted May 25, 2017 Posted May 25, 2017 (edited) On 19/05/2017 at 21:04, Mal C said: is it boot the spoken or short intro? m Hi The spoken intro is on the issue copies only, the promo doesn't have the spoken intro the repros done in the 70's don't have the spoken intro also don't have silver on the label if anyone what's a repro I have one for sale The Issue copies are very hard to find. J Edited May 25, 2017 by Jonathan
Rick Scott Posted May 25, 2017 Posted May 25, 2017 Hi Jonathan, and the issue copy with spoken intro is a different Version/Take/Recording judging by the YouTube music vidios that are up there to the demo copy i play, right??
Concrete Posted May 25, 2017 Posted May 25, 2017 37 minutes ago, RICK SCOTT said: Hi Jonathan, and the issue copy with spoken intro is a different Version/Take/Recording judging by the YouTube music vidios that are up there to the demo copy i play, right?? Thats right, the spoken intro mix sounds like a totally different version,however the b side of both mixes feature the instrumental version of the non spoken intro version. I'm sure it was the instrumental version that I heard first at the Mecca , now this could be down to the popularuty of instrumentals at the time, Perception Strings Orchestra, Ron Renaldo etc. or that the copy IL played from had the spoken intro version on the b side, which may not have fitted at the time, with IL's close contacts with Deke Deberry the re-mixing of the vocals with the instrumental version would not have been hard to do and hence the version we all remember is born. Total conjecture BTW
Jonathan Posted May 25, 2017 Posted May 25, 2017 55 minutes ago, RICK SCOTT said: Hi Jonathan, and the issue copy with spoken intro is a different Version/Take/Recording judging by the YouTube music vidios that are up there to the demo copy i play, right?? Hi Rick, Yes I have both versions didn't realise there was a spoken intro version until about 10 years ago never hear it played out back in the day. Hope your keeping well. Regards Jonathan
Rick Scott Posted May 25, 2017 Posted May 25, 2017 Thanks ever so much for that, it answers all the questions and have to say yes, it was a time when instrumentals were at their peek, the vocal of the demo i can live with but still love the instrumental to this day and have to say I find the spoken intro vocal version to be a bit too messy for my ears, but every one to their own, different strokes for different folks
Rick Scott Posted May 25, 2017 Posted May 25, 2017 Hi there Jonathan,Yea i'm not bad thank you, funny how these things are kicking around yet we don't catch them for some reason although they are getting played (some where), Funny old game this record collecting malarkey, but don't you just love it !
Wiggyflat Posted May 25, 2017 Posted May 25, 2017 White and purple are boots.Sent one back to Japan pronto after buying it as an orig.Very poor washy labels.Now got a silver an purple.I'm suprised it never got an issue on UK Crystal.
Mike Lofthouse Posted May 25, 2017 Posted May 25, 2017 I know my reply was pretty much much ignored - but how do we know the white and purple are boots - rather than just another pressing run ?
Jonathan Posted May 25, 2017 Posted May 25, 2017 Hi mike I remember them arriving in Nottingham only a small quantity might have been about 300 .the original stampers weren't used, new metal work matrix written differently also if you where going to repress you would have used silver and purple labels not white and pale purple
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