Johnnie Mae Matthews - Mama's Gonna Stop You (C-U)

[Gold Band]

Saus was playing this 10 years ago & Pete Smith played it on a pod cast last year, do many know the real artist & title?

Kirsty

[Woodbutcher]

No-one knows either detail Kirsty , still one of the best mysteries left unsolved (and one of the best tracks from the 90's)

Saus still has the acetate .

[TAGGY]

Saus

Taggy here..........need to know about Mamas gonna stop you.........Alan Tagg

[Blackpoolsoul]

On 10/04/2017 at 23:59, Gold Band said:

Saus was playing this 10 years ago & Pete Smith played it on a pod cast last year, do many know the real artist & title?

Kirsty

What a tune, my goodness, I nearly fell over and wanted to dance in the kitchen

 

[Robbk]

I wonder if that's a Juggy Murray or Bobby Robinson production?  It sounds a bit too "gritty" to have been produced by Zell Sanders.  Who else in New York was recording cuts that sounded like that during the mid to late 1960s?  It doesn't sound like a Detroit recording to me.

Edited 17 hours ago by Robbk

[Woodbutcher]

1 hour ago, Robbk said:

I wonder if that's a Juggy Murray or Bobby Robinson production?  It sounds a bit too "gritty" to have been produced by Zell Sanders.  Who else in New York was recording cuts that sounded like that during the mid to late 1960s?  It doesn't sound like a Detroit recording to me.

It's a made up label Rob , the actual acetate is blank untitled and uncredited as I recall .

[Robbk]

5 hours ago, Woodbutcher said:

It's a made up label Rob , the actual acetate is blank untitled and uncredited as I recall .

I knew that the artist was unknown;  but thought it was a legitimate Bell Sound recording done in New York.  So, I was thinking about who that operated in New York, might have produced it, based on its sound (mid '60's hard edged, Bluesy Soul).  I know we have nothing to go by.  It was just pondering "out loud".  

Now I just noticed the post above that says it comes from the 1990s.  Does that mean that it was played by NS DJs in the 1990s?  It certainly sounds like a mid or late '60s recording.  And IF that Bell Sound label on the pictured acetate above is the record we're listening to, it certainly was not made at Bell Sound during the 1990s.

Edited 9 hours ago by Robbk

[Solidsoul]

It was popular for DJ Saus on the Northern Soul circuit in the 1990's.  He featured at a lot of allnighters at that time.  The track sounds 1960's to it's very core.

[Woodbutcher]

1 hour ago, Robbk said:

I knew that the artist was unknown;  but thought it was a legitimate Bell Sound recording done in New York.  So, I was thinking about who that operated in New York, might have produced it, based on its sound (mid '60's hard edged, Bluesy Soul).  I know we have nothing to go by.  It was just pondering "out loud".  

Now I just noticed the post above that says it comes from the 1990s.  Does that mean that it was played by NS DJs in the 1990s?  It certainly sounds like a mid or late '60s recording.  And IF that Bell Sound label on the pictured acetate above is the record we're listening to, it certainly was not made at Bell Sound during the 1990s.

As I said above , that label is a make believe job made for the carvers that were cut 'recently'.

The original is indeed a proper 60s acetate bearing no such details.

[TAGGY]

I was a personal friend of Saus at this time.......

Loved the song then and do regret not asking him in more detail.

Not seen Saus now for ....must be 30 years

[TAGGY]

Carvers that were cut recently......??? Not sure what you mean....have some copies been made ?

 

Taggy

[Woodbutcher]

8 minutes ago, TAGGY said:

Carvers that were cut recently......??? Not sure what you mean....have some copies been made ?

 

Taggy

What's not to understand ?  A few carvers were cut around five years ago.

[Chalky]

It was hitsville Chalky who edited one of the files in circulation, taking out the edits to protect the track to make it sound better, thats what Pete Smith played originally.  Think since then a full file appeared and subsequently cuts were made and by the looks of itv are still being made. 

14 hours ago, Robbk said:

I wonder if that's a Juggy Murray or Bobby Robinson production?  It sounds a bit too "gritty" to have been produced by Zell Sanders.  Who else in New York was recording cuts that sounded like that during the mid to late 1960s?  It doesn't sound like a Detroit recording to me.

The acetate came from Johnnie Mae Matthews

[Woodbutcher]

3 minutes ago, Chalky said:

It was hitsville Chalky who edited one of the files in circulation, taking out the edits to protect the track to make it sound better, thats what Pete Smith played originally.  Think since then a full file appeared and subsequently cuts were made and by the looks of itv are still being made. 

I knew who cut/played it.

Sounds like it could well have been my edited file that was 'restored' then , that's a bummer ... 

Edited 2 hours ago by Woodbutcher

[TAGGY]

How can I get hold of a copy ???

[Woodbutcher]

33 minutes ago, TAGGY said:

How can I get hold of a copy ???

Get someone to grab a file and have a carver cut I guess ... 

[TAGGY]

Ok.....anyone out there any idea who can help me get that done ???