jimmy and the sundials - tell me where did i lose you-V-Tone

[Floyd]

Hi used to have this, so looking to get it back , vg++ or better NO OFFERS

jimmy and the sundials - tell me where did i lose you-V-Tone

thanks for looking

ATB

Floyd

[Dobber]

Not seen this title crop up in a while! Only exists as a vtone test press,I had it from jm's,and I traded it to Marc Forrest of Germany,maybe he still has it,send him a pm on here?

i believe only 3 copies exist,the other 2 reside with doowop collectors for the b-side!

shame it was never issued!

[Floyd]

Hi

i had a white test press to (bellsound stamped) in the 80s of steve smith

then sold it to martin koppell  (wish i hadnt) it is very rare but there are more than 3 copies knocking about

big among doo wop collectors as you said ,believe there are test presses w/demos and issues in existence

believe val shively and gregg tormo have or had issues of this

ATB

Floyd

[Marc Forrest]

Funnily enough my WD which came via Dobber used to be the very same copy that Steve Smith once had, so there you go we are talking about the same copy that can look back on quite some travelling ! I know Val Shively has one (for the Doo wop side), dont know about Greg Tormo or any others in circulation.

[Dobber]

12 hours ago, Marc Forrest said:

Funnily enough my WD which came via Dobber used to be the very same copy that Steve Smith once had, so there you go we are talking about the same copy that can look back on quite some travelling ! I know Val Shively has one (for the Doo wop side), dont know about Greg Tormo or any others in circulation.

hi marc,if i remember at the time we thought there was maybe 3 test pressings in existance,but i always thought that was as far as the process went,no demo's or issue's? ive certainly never seen either!

[Marc Forrest]

11 hours ago, dobber said:

hi marc,if i remember at the time we thought there was maybe 3 test pressings in existance,but i always thought that was as far as the process went,no demo's or issue's? ive certainly never seen either!

How longs ago my friend, do u remember ? Think Val infact has an issue and at least one demo in existence see pic ("knicked" via utube) 

Edited February 7, 2017 by Marc Forrest

[Dobber]

2 minutes ago, Marc Forrest said:

How longs ago my friend, do u remember ? Think Val infact has an issue and at least one demo ("knicked" via utube) 

Wow! Very surprised,there can't be many of them,would love to see a demo and an issue in the flesh,have you actually see either in the flesh Marc,could this label off YouTube be made up for a video? I was convinced it never saw a release!

[Marc Forrest]

no havent seen any in the flesh, no demo, no issue. Only ever saw the one white stamped test pressing I own.

[Pumpkinseed]

Steve Smith had TWO white label hand written test pressings . I did some trades with him for one , think thats the one Manny had ? Can definitely remember the slow side had a imprint of a " Chancellor " label where the label had been stuck to it over the years . I actually took the copy to Val in the States , he didn't have it at the time . Said he wanted the v- tone record not the test . Wonder who ended up with my old copy ? 

 

[Floyd]

12 hours ago, pumpkinseed said:

Steve Smith had TWO white label hand written test pressings . I did some trades with him for one , think thats the one Manny had ? Can definitely remember the slow side had a imprint of a " Chancellor " label where the label had been stuck to it over the years . I actually took the copy to Val in the States , he didn't have it at the time . Said he wanted the v- tone record not the test . Wonder who ended up with my old copy ? 

 

Hi Carl

heres the story as i remember it (may be wrong)

steve smith had two white test pressings off a guy called Glynn who had a record shop in Kettering

you had one copy and i had the other (around the same time, the 80s) yours went to john manship and i sold mine to martin koppell

 martin bought my collection at the time and i had few things he hadnt heard before , jimmy+sundials was one of them

initially he  didnt want the unknowns as he wasnt sure of value but i insisted as i paid £250 for the jimmy disc (which was`nt cheap  for an unknown back then)  and said he had to have the lot and couldnt cherry pick the collection, i wish now i had kept the handfull of unkowns as i havent seen many for sale since and have turned out to be pretty rare like the jimmy and the sundials disc

my copy was bell sound stamped and the title/credits ect were hand written in pencil

ATB

Floyd

 

Edited February 9, 2017 by floyd

[Marc Forrest]

16 hours ago, floyd said:

Hi Carl

heres the story as i remember it (may be wrong)

steve smith had two white test pressings off a guy called Glynn who had a record shop in Kettering

you had one copy and i had the other (around the same time, the 80s) yours went to john manship and i sold mine to martin koppell

 martin bought my collection at the time and i had few things he hadnt heard before , jimmy+sundials was one of them

initially he  didnt want the unknowns as he wasnt sure of value but i insisted as i paid £250 for the jimmy disc (which was`nt cheap  for an unknown back then)  and said he had to have the lot and couldnt cherry pick the collection, i wish now i had kept the handfull of unkowns as i havent seen many for sale since and have turned out to be pretty rare like the jimmy and the sundials disc

my copy was bell sound stamped and the title/credits ect were hand written in pencil

ATB

Floyd

 

hand written pencil and stamped, yes just like mine. One of the two Steve had.Didnt know he had two though !

[Dobber]

22 minutes ago, Marc Forrest said:

hand written pencil and stamped, yes just like mine. One of the two Steve had.Didnt know he had two though !

also marc,is the sundials written incorrect? does it say SUNDAILS on the label?

[Dysonsoul]

Some years ago at  the Cleethorpes weekender , John  Anderson pulled a copy of this out from a 25 count box ( of various titles) I think he was selling it for a friend from America . John did  start to tell me the history of the 45 , but Al Coney let a stink bomb off  so that was the end of that ! I'm almost certain it was a white label v-tone and about 3 grand , but i'm not 100% certain of that - not much help i know.....

[Tai-pan]

On 17/02/2017 at 22:27, Dysonsoul said:

Some years ago at  the Cleethorpes weekender , John  Anderson pulled a copy of this out from a 25 count box ( of various titles) I think he was selling it for a friend from America . John did  start to tell me the history of the 45 , but Al Coney let a stink bomb off  so that was the end of that ! I'm almost certain it was a white label v-tone and about 3 grand , but i'm not 100% certain of that - not much help i know.....

Blimey Andy, your memory is pristine, and here it is, the elusive white demo. Val's old copy via John Anderson. I don't think issues ever happened.

[Floyd]

Cheers Andy

thanks for posting the label scans, very nice

knew there were at least w/ds out there , not just test pressings

i would be happy just to get one of the test pressings back

ATB

Floyd

[Dobber]

3 hours ago, Tai-Pan said:

Blimey Andy, your memory is pristine, and here it is, the elusive white demo. Val's old copy via John Anderson. I don't think issues ever happened.

well im gobsmacked,very nice item andy! i see a limelights in the background?

[Dysonsoul]

On 3/2/2017 at 14:49, Tai-Pan said:

Blimey Andy, your memory is pristine, and here it is, the elusive white demo. Val's old copy via John Anderson. I don't think issues ever happened.

Ah yeh that's the one....nice one confirming that Andy - i was half and half about posting my reply incase i had it wrong... that aside a very rare record indeed !

[Mgriff]

Hmm, looks like I may have managed to get hold of the now 'third' known demo. Beautiful condition too. A tad probably to expensive for my meagre pub box so likely on the market any time soon!

[Floyd]

Nice find, let me know if it goes up for sale, not  interested in to getting into a bidding war but if you come up with a price you happy with or trades of a similar value let me know ASAP

ATB

Floyd

Edited July 14, 2017 by floyd

[Veedoggsoul805]

Any new findings on the Jimmy and Sundials records. I called Val couple weeks back and he sold his copy. Would be grear to get a good lead.