Carl Spencer

[Natalie89]

Just recently bought a Carl Spencer - cover girl and noticed it has promotional copy and produced by Bob Halley and the other one says Carl Spencer ??? What's the difference please 

thanks Nat 

[Frankie Crocker]

Not sure what you are comparing it to? Oddly, the white label release seems to be the issue as it does not specify promo - the multi-coloured label indicates promo copy. Great record and one that has become pretty sought after in recent years.

[Geeselad]

I had the white one back in the 8ts, would still like another copy, seldom seen for sale.

[Natalie89]

That's my copy I only thought there was a demo and an issue I didn't think there was a promotional copy so just wondered what the difference is 

[Natalie89]

And then there's this one 

[Natalie89]

And then there's this one 

[Natalie89]

So what's the different between all three !! Is one rarer than the other?? I've just never seen one with promotional copy not for sale wrote on 

[Chalky]

From what I have read (45cat) it was initially pressed with incorrect producer details (Bob Halley).  This was then corrected to read what it should have read, Carl Spencer.  How true this is not sure.

 

[Natalie89]

10 minutes ago, chalky said:

From what I have read (45cat) it was initially pressed with incorrect producer details (Bob Halley).  This was then corrected to read what it should have read, Carl Spencer.  How true this is not sure.

 

Thanks mate 

[Frankie Crocker]

A nice twist to the tale. Here we see multicoloured promo and issue copies. Until now, it was thought the white label version was a promo, a typical WD without it specifying DJ copy. So, the white label now looks like a regular issue and the multicoloured promo is particularly rare. I have the white label Cover Girl and am waiting for a multicoloured release but now make that two.

[Gointoagogo]

John Manships auction Oct 2011 suggests that the coloured promo is a West Coast press - Whatever copy you have it is still a great record and hasn't suffered death by overplay like many of it's contemporaries.

 

"Discovered by Daly City Bob, perhaps the very first Yank to get the feel of the “Northern Soul Sound”. On a road-trip as his buddy Henry Mariano played through a pile of 45’s, out of the little portable came Carl’s booming vocal riding Bob Halley’s juggernaut production! Within weeks it was in the UK and on the turntables of the Northern Sea rare-soul-haven that was Cleethorpes! Tells a great story does Bob but his copy he sold me back then, was the rather plain White Label DEMO. Before you today is the glorious multi-coloured vision of the west coast press. Great tune - eye-grabbingly gorgeous, in this format.

 

 

Sorry, this item has already been won!

The winning bid was £ 274.00"

[Chalky]

Going by the auction description Bob Halley West Coast then White demo/coloured issue, Carl Spencer produced East Coast?

What are the run out details of the respective copies?

[Natalie89]

42 minutes ago, FRANKIE CROCKER said:

A nice twist to the tale. Here we see multicoloured promo and issue copies. Until now, it was thought the white label version was a promo, a typical WD without it specifying DJ copy. So, the white label now looks like a regular issue and the multicoloured promo is particularly rare. I have the white label Cover Girl and am waiting for a multicoloured release but now make that two.

I now have one lol I just had to see what information I could get, but it got sold to me as a demo so I was expecting a white one until this turned up and I got a bit confused 

[Winsford Soul]

I had what I thought was a white demo. Now looks like it was a issue. Looks great on the coloured Rust Demo. Great tune paid £300 for mine

Steve

[Natalie89]

I've just paid £300 for mine first time I played it out tonight too 

[grant]

I've got the white issue which up until now I always thought was the demo 

[Natalie89]

On 07/01/2017 at 18:49, chalky said:

Going by the auction description Bob Halley West Coast then White demo/coloured issue, Carl Spencer produced East Coast?

What are the run out details of the respective copies?

The stamp I have on mine is 

T 4KM -0867 - - 1B  

then its scratched with 

a triangle 60348-x 

then it's got another stamp in a circle but cant quite work it out lol hope this helps 

[Chalky]

1 hour ago, natalie89 said:

The stamp I have on mine is 

T 4KM -0867 - - 1B  

then its scratched with 

a triangle 60348-x 

then it's got another stamp in a circle but cant quite work it out lol hope this helps 

That is a West Coast press.  The stamp in a cirlce is probably MR, Monarch press. The x signifies the B side. 

Edited January 9, 2017 by chalky

[Natalie89]

32 minutes ago, chalky said:

That is a West Coast press.  The stamp in a cirlce is probably MR, Monarch press. The x signifies the B side. 

Yes I've looked at it in the light and it is MR thanks mate 

[Corbett80]

Brilliant record!! 

[Lord Emsworth]

I wonder why it's not played so much these days. Any ideas?

[daveh]

As far as I can remember the labels with blue and brown bits around the centre hole are west coast copies.

Plain white labels are east coast, most being issues and only a promo if it says so on the label.

[Chalky]

7 hours ago, Lord Emsworth said:

I wonder why it's not played so much these days. Any ideas?

I heard it not somewhere not so long ago.  Great record, everything you want in a northern record.

Edited December 20 by Chalky

[Blackpoolsoul]

11 hours ago, Chalky said:

I heard it not somewhere not so long ago.  Great record, everything you want in a northern record.

I never knew Jimmy Radcliffe was backing vocals. Cool

[Clee93]

14 hours ago, Chalky said:

I heard it not somewhere not so long ago.  Great record, everything you want in a northern record.

Tim Ashibende played it both times he did the 100 club a few months ago when he did the consecutive bookings.

Edited December 21 by Clee93

[Lord Emsworth]

18 minutes ago, Clee93 said:

Tim Ashibende played it both times he did the 100 club a few months ago when he did the consecutive bookings.

That's good to hear - thanks