Theothertosspot Posted April 10, 2017 Posted April 10, 2017 What labels were Blue Sharks and Mike Morton Congregation versions of "These Things ...." released on? Just curious
Peter99 Posted April 10, 2017 Posted April 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, theothertosspot said: What labels were Blue Sharks and Mike Morton Congregation versions of "These Things ...." released on? Just curious Blue Sharks is Italian Gran Prix.
Theothertosspot Posted April 10, 2017 Posted April 10, 2017 1 hour ago, redditchcrew said: Steve lane I do not run away from anyone or anything I was referring to blue sharks but as we are here I think that the same applys to bobby hutton you should only play it on album . not on a pressing that's my take okeh Was Blue Sharks "these things ....." also released on ABC!!!!
Theothertosspot Posted April 10, 2017 Posted April 10, 2017 On 07/04/2017 at 08:34, redditchcrew said: its shite any one worth their salt! would realise this! original vinyl means just that . If your that desperate to play it to fellow soulies at a paying venue. then on a shite LP not on a white ABC 45 you know that so why argue or defend anything so dire only thing its good for is scooping up Dogshite You are referring to Blue Sharks
Peter99 Posted April 10, 2017 Posted April 10, 2017 8 minutes ago, theothertosspot said: Was Blue Sharks "these things ....." also released on ABC!!!!
Mick Holdsworth Posted April 11, 2017 Posted April 11, 2017 (edited) 16 hours ago, theothertosspot said: What labels were Blue Sharks and Mike Morton Congregation versions of "These Things ...." released on? Just curious 16 hours ago, Peter99 said: Blue Sharks is Italian Gran Prix. And Plexium for the LP. I asked this before, but is may have gotten missed. What's the going rate for the LP these days. I haven't seen anyone selling them, unless its on Facebook or similar. Cheers Mick Edited April 11, 2017 by Mick Holdsworth
Chalky Posted April 11, 2017 Posted April 11, 2017 2 hours ago, Mick Holdsworth said: And Plexium for the LP. I asked this before, but is may have gotten missed. What's the going rate for the LP these days. I haven't seen anyone selling them, unless its on Facebook or similar. Cheers Mick It was a tenner and less on discogs but all copies now gone, no doubt all soul source readers having read this topic buying them up.
Guest Posted April 11, 2017 Posted April 11, 2017 (edited) 19 hours ago, theothertosspot said: You are referring to Blue Sharks Apparently although it doesn`t read that way and is quite hard to understand. Edited April 11, 2017 by Guest
Guest Posted April 11, 2017 Posted April 11, 2017 (edited) 19 hours ago, theothertosspot said: Was Blue Sharks "these things ....." also released on ABC!!!! Nope! Bought my 1st Blue Sharks for £135 and sold it on for nearly 4 figures. Edited April 11, 2017 by Guest
Mick Holdsworth Posted April 11, 2017 Posted April 11, 2017 2 hours ago, chalky said: It was a tenner and less on discogs but all copies now gone, no doubt all soul source readers having read this topic buying them up. Cheers - Reason is I have a couple of copies, just wondered if anyone had a value, so as I could list 'em.
Chalky Posted April 11, 2017 Posted April 11, 2017 40 minutes ago, Mick Holdsworth said: Cheers - Reason is I have a couple of copies, just wondered if anyone had a value, so as I could list 'em. Just had a look, less than a fiver the highestnprice on discogs but that was before any sellers realised or knew of this topic.
Guest Posted April 11, 2017 Posted April 11, 2017 42 minutes ago, Mick Holdsworth said: Cheers - Reason is I have a couple of copies, just wondered if anyone had a value, so as I could list 'em. I would get them on eBay Mick with a good explanation of what`s on it, I think you`ll get a decent price.
Dave Pinch Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 Wouldnt have thought more than £25 either way.... Unless someone tells me different
Pete S Posted April 14, 2017 Posted April 14, 2017 On 10/04/2017 at 19:06, redditchcrew said: Steve lane I do not run away from anyone or anything I was referring to blue sharks but as we are here I think that the same applys to bobby hutton you should only play it on album . not on a pressing that's my take okeh Totally disagree with this as if you haven't got the album and won't play the single you're depriving people of hearing the record - for what? Vanity? 1 1
Soul-slider Posted April 14, 2017 Posted April 14, 2017 On 4/2/2017 at 19:54, theothertosspot said: Best version on Motown Chartbusters Vol 6, with different mix (as this been mentioned previously) Yes, completely different lyrics. I just played mine and it starts off "You walked into my life one day...." and then goes on with different lyrics to the 45.
Ian Stacey Posted April 15, 2017 Posted April 15, 2017 On 14/04/2017 at 12:33, Pete S said: Totally disagree with this as if you haven't got the album and won't play the single you're depriving people of hearing the record - for what? Vanity? As your asked no not vanity faith its surposed to be just that. black soul singers had a raw deal from society & the record companies in the 1960s its an act of commercial greed on the part of record companies making a fast buck from british teenagers we must look at the scene though different eyes that's all you think vanity I think rip off from the man
Guest Posted April 15, 2017 Posted April 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, redditchcrew said: As your asked no not vanity faith its surposed to be just that. black soul singers had a raw deal from society & the record companies in the 1960s its an act of commercial greed on the part of record companies making a fast buck from british teenagers we must look at the scene though different eyes that's all you think vanity I think rip off from the man ?
Jim G Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 Interestingly, i just spotted this today which "outed" the Blue Sharks in 2008 !!! Seems someone already knew!
Woodbutcher Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 1 hour ago, jim g said: Interestingly, i just spotted this today which "outed" the Blue Sharks in 2008 !!! Seems someone already knew! You're like a cow's tail sir .... all behind ... try going to the beginning of the thread ... 1
Mick Holdsworth Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 The better LP is probably the Redifusion release, as as has the same recording but WITHOUT the fake crowd tht was sequenced in on the Plexium release. Both date from 1971, as does the Blue Sharks single.
Jim G Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 26 minutes ago, WoodButcher said: You're like a cow's tail sir .... all behind ... try going to the beginning of the thread ... I know, old age
maslar Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 Pretty laughable and actually quite bizarre that people pay relatively large sums of money for a lesser standard Britsh recording by session singers of a much better Motown orignal. I tihnk I've got a copy of Mardi Gras Too Busy Thinking about My Baby on an old K-Tel LP. Offers? Whats that Shakespeare quote about men losing their reason? ... Mike Morton Congregation ffs 1
Soul-slider Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 2 hours ago, Mick Holdsworth said: The better LP is probably the Redifusion release, as as has the same recording but WITHOUT the fake crowd tht was sequenced in on the Plexium release. Both date from 1971, as does the Blue Sharks single.
maslar Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 Just now, Soul-Slider said: And how much would that little beauty set one back?
Soul-slider Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 1 minute ago, maslar said: And how much would that little beauty set one back? There's one on Discogs now for £30.....think I'll take my chances at the car boots / charity shops
maslar Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Soul-Slider said: There's one on Discogs now for £30.....think I'll take my chances at the car boots / charity shops £30 ?!!! Sweet Jezus
maslar Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Peter99 said: She's fit. I wonder where she is now. And if she knows that the very sight of her in a charity shop would send some men into raptures - not becasue of her sadly - no, it's all down to the Mike Morton Congregation. Edited September 28, 2017 by maslar
Guest Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 15 hours ago, Peter99 said: She's fit. Probably not anymore Pete.
Guest Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 15 hours ago, maslar said: Pretty laughable and actually quite bizarre that people pay relatively large sums of money for a lesser standard Britsh recording by session singers of a much better Motown orignal. I tihnk I've got a copy of Mardi Gras Too Busy Thinking about My Baby on an old K-Tel LP. Offers? Whats that Shakespeare quote about men losing their reason? ... Mike Morton Congregation ffs Because it`s an excellent version of a top Motown record which is quite rare on 45 and has been played out on the scene for decades by some of the most respected DJs! Lesser standard.........really? It would pass the Pepsi challenge with the original.
Peter99 Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 5 minutes ago, Steve Lane said: Probably not anymore Pete.
maslar Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Steve Lane said: Because it`s an excellent version of a top Motown record which is quite rare on 45 and has been played out on the scene for decades by some of the most respected DJs! Lesser standard.........really? It would pass the Pepsi challenge with the original. It's an ok version imo as I've already stated. It's not recorded/mixed as well as it could have been and the arrangment is a little lacking based as it is on the original. But for what ti was I don't suppose too much time and effort was spent on it. The session men did a good standard job and earned their fee. What's laughable is that it commands the prices it does when it's from a Uk session covers compilation LP. Would anyone play the TOTPs LP version of Tears Of a Clown? It's exactly the same thing. Probably pretty ok to listen to and a "soul" record no doubt but so what? Yes it is a lesser standard in my opinion. As not the same standard as the original. YES really. I really do think that. I really do. PS I've already made the point that without the original I believe it would be classed as ok by those who knock it. But just to clarify for the sake of confusion - lesser as in not equal or superior. As for it being played out by "respected djs" - since when has that been a bench mark of quality? I first heard it after it's heyday. On the Destiny LP in 1980. it wasn't being played out anywhere at that time. It never occured to me then that it wasn't a US soul record. Just not as good as the original. But the reality is it's the Mike Morton congregation. And why anyone would want to play it rather than the original is beyond me but taste is a funny thing. so if anyone else prefers it then that's up to them. And price is obviously a reflection of demand. I just question why that demand is there. Edited September 29, 2017 by maslar typo
Theothertosspot Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 One here on Discogs. https://www.discogs.com/artist/1607324-The-Mike-Morton-Congregation They were selling for £1 up until recently
maslar Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 1 minute ago, theothertosspot said: One here on Discogs. https://www.discogs.com/artist/1607324-The-Mike-Morton-Congregation They were selling for £1 up until recently That seems very reasonable
maslar Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 48 minutes ago, maslar said: It's an ok version imo as I've already stated. It's not recorded/mixed as well as it could have been and the arrangment is a little lacking based as it is on the original. But for what ti was I don't suppose too much time and effort was spent on it. The session men did a good standard job and earned their fee. What's laughable is that it commands the prices it does when it's from a Uk session covers compilation LP. Would anyone play the TOTPs LP version of Tears Of a Clown? It's exactly the same thing. Probably pretty ok to listen to and a "soul" record no doubt but so what? Yes it is a lesser standard in my opinion. As not the same standard as the original. YES really. I really do think that. I really do. PS I've already made the point that without the original I believe it would be classed as ok by those who knock it. But just to clarify for the sake of confusion - lesser as in not equal or superior. As for it being played out by "respected djs" - since when has that been a bench mark of quality? I first heard it after it's heyday. On the Destiny LP in 1980. it wasn't being played out anywhere at that time. It never occured to me then that it wasn't a US soul record. Just not as good as the original. But the reality is it's the Mike Morton congregation. And why anyone would want to play it rather than the original is beyond me but taste is a funny thing. so if anyone else prefers it then that's up to them. And price is obviously a reflection of demand. I just question why that demand is there. Steve Lane. So rather than just respond to my post/points or even ignore it (wouldn't bother me at all) you decided to give it a "down" vote? That's poor form old chap . Run out of ideas? I've never used the "down" vote. Seems a bit of a waste of time tbh. Oh well
Guest Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 10 minutes ago, maslar said: Steve Lane. So rather than just respond to my post/points or even ignore it (wouldn't bother me at all) you decided to give it a "down" vote? That's poor form old chap . Run out of ideas? I've never used the "down" vote. Seems a bit of a waste of time tbh. Oh well Basically because with you there`s never any discussion. It`s not a case of running out of ideas. You will argue black is white rather than concede anything so it`s pointless replying. I bet there are things you could teach to tropical skin diseases. !
maslar Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Steve Lane said: Basically because with you there`s never any discussion. It`s not a case of running out of ideas. You will argue black is white rather than concede anything so it`s pointless replying. I bet there are things you could teach to tropical skin diseases. ! Do you think any of the other Mike Morton Tamla covers are worthy of playing? Edited September 29, 2017 by maslar
Guest Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 1 hour ago, maslar said: Steve Lane. So rather than just respond to my post/points or even ignore it (wouldn't bother me at all) you decided to give it a "down" vote? That's poor form old chap . Run out of ideas? I've never used the "down" vote. Seems a bit of a waste of time tbh. Oh well It was first played by Soul Sam at St'Ives just for the record around that time I would think before the Destiny release I cant remember the date everyone has views some like it some dont if it wasn't like that the scene wouldn't change
Guest Spain pete Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 Imagine it was on a obscure label , and the group had a member that went on to better things, the kind of record that is sought after , then their would be a demand. especially. , in the bargain bins in Woolworths 🎭😤🎶🎶
Guest Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 2 hours ago, maslar said: Do you think any of the other Mike Morton Tamla covers are worthy of playing? Can`t recall hearing any of his others but there are lots of covers out there which have been played, some pretty good and some not so. This one just works for the scene and always has done.
maslar Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 1 hour ago, becker154 said: It was first played by Soul Sam at St'Ives just for the record around that time I would think before the Destiny release I cant remember the date everyone has views some like it some dont if it wasn't like that the scene wouldn't change Going from memory The Destiny LP listed which DJ played each track first and where. I think it stated 1978.
maslar Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 5 minutes ago, Steve Lane said: Can`t recall hearing any of his others but there are lots of covers out there which have been played, some pretty good and some not so. This one just works for the scene and always has done. Like I said, it's ok. He covered Heaven Must Have Sent You. And also Move On Up. Maybe you need to get on these. Chances are they could be of the same standard and hence right up your street.
Tiggerwoods Posted September 30, 2017 Posted September 30, 2017 Have to say it's dire though Gene......might be an obscure cover version but it doesn't equal or better the velvelettes . Might have worked late 70's but no need to be played now......dj's must have something better to play than that? I'd hope anyway! Alright for a £1 though
Tiggerwoods Posted September 30, 2017 Posted September 30, 2017 Have to say it's dire though Gene......might be an obscure cover version but it doesn't equal or better the velvelettes . Might have worked late 70's but no need to be played now......dj's must have something better to play than that? I'd hope anyway! Alright for a £1 though
Jim G Posted October 2, 2017 Posted October 2, 2017 Seems prices for Mike Morton have increased https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272869740189?ul_noapp=true
Ronnie Mccarthy Posted July 7, 2019 Posted July 7, 2019 The lead singer does not sound like Barbara Kay. Mike Morton could have used possibly one of four female singers on the lead. Anybody know which one it was ?
Soulskate Posted July 8, 2019 Posted July 8, 2019 I've always like the Blue Sharks version. The production reminds me of Sandy Wynns, Patrice Holloway, etc.... probably the same reason others like it.
Guest Posted July 8, 2019 Posted July 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Soulskate said: I've always like the Blue Sharks version. The production reminds me of Sandy Wynns, Patrice Holloway, etc.... probably the same reason others like it. Because it`s a later, more polished version and a better version at that.
Linda4me Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 On 28/09/2017 at 19:21, Soul-slider said: Picked this up on evilbay 2 weeks ago 1
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