Ianc1971 Posted December 4, 2016 Posted December 4, 2016 I've got a really bad recording of this track and its really hard to make out the lyrics. I've searched for them but i've had no joy. Can anyone enlighten me?
Peter99 Posted December 4, 2016 Posted December 4, 2016 3 minutes ago, Ianc1971 said: I've got a really bad recording of this track and its really hard to make out the lyrics. I've searched for them but i've had no joy. Can anyone enlighten me?
Ianc1971 Posted December 4, 2016 Author Posted December 4, 2016 What an idiot never thought of looking on youtube. Was hell bent on finding the written lyrics.
Peter99 Posted December 4, 2016 Posted December 4, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Ianc1971 said: What an idiot never thought of looking on youtube. Was hell bent on finding the written lyrics. That's a decent recording so you should be able to get most of the words mate. Its a super soul record for sure. Pete Edited December 4, 2016 by Peter99 1
Ianc1971 Posted December 4, 2016 Author Posted December 4, 2016 its one of my favorites. Went to my works xmas do last night and the DJ played some NS. Me and the missus just looked at each other and smiled then hit the dance floor. whether it looked good or not is a different story but for that 3 minutes it was amazing. Haha 3
Robbk Posted December 4, 2016 Posted December 4, 2016 (edited) This recording is pretty muddy, too. I have it on both labels, and it is tough to hear about half the words. And the lead singer has good diction, and she is singing in Standard American English, NOT Ebonics! (which wouldn't have been a problem for me, as I grew up (more or less) in The Chicago Ghetto), but may have otherwise been a problem for a British listener. The other factor is that there are not very many different words used in this song. I realise now, that I've been listening to it for just about 50 years, without knowing about half the words. But, then, I've always admitted that I've never cared about words in songs, only the overall sound. It doesn't matter, in this case, as the gist of this song is clear, - the young lady doesn't want her lover to leave her. Edited December 4, 2016 by RobbK 3
Ianc1971 Posted December 4, 2016 Author Posted December 4, 2016 your right pal it is all about the sound. But when i'm singing along in my head i'd just like to get it right and just not make up mu own lyrics haha
Robbk Posted December 4, 2016 Posted December 4, 2016 4 minutes ago, RobbK said: This recording is pretty muddy, too. I have it on both labels, and it is tough to hear about half the words. And the lead singer has good diction, and she is singing in Standard American English, NOT Ebonics! (which wouldn't have been a problem for me, as I grew up 9more or less) in The Chicago Ghetto), but may have otherwise been a problem for a British listener. The other factor is that there are not very many different words used in this song. I realise now, that I've been listening to it for just about 50 years, without knowing about half the words. But, then, I've always admitted that I've never cared about words in songs, only the overall sound. It doesn't matter, in this case, as the gist of this song is clear, - the young lady doesn't want her lover to leave her. Theoretically, you could purchase the words and music from the music publishing company. Despite Florence Greenberg being deceased, someone owns Flomar Music, as its rights have still been renewed with BMI up to today. The main business of music publishing was originally to sell sheet music with lyrics to people who wanted to play and sing it for recreation. Originally, this song was published by Barry Despenza, but, he sold half the publishing rights to Flomar, in the Wand pressing and distribution deal. And, i think that only Flomar has been renewing the rights for the past many years. So, they probably own full rights now. 1
Louise Posted December 4, 2016 Posted December 4, 2016 Or alternatively ask Tom Dorsey after all he did write the song ! Dave 1
Robbk Posted December 4, 2016 Posted December 4, 2016 13 minutes ago, Louise said: Or alternatively ask Tom Dorsey after all he did write the song ! Dave Good to learn that Tom is still with us.
Steve G Posted December 4, 2016 Posted December 4, 2016 (edited) Florence Greenberg sold the rights to Flo Mar in two tranches firstly in the mid 60s and after Marvin had left, the balance in the early 70s. Since then they've changed hands a number of times. The only viable lead I reckon would be Tom Dorsey. Edited December 4, 2016 by Steve G
Ianc1971 Posted December 5, 2016 Author Posted December 5, 2016 I wouldn't even know where to start ?
Popular Post Soul16 Posted December 5, 2016 Popular Post Posted December 5, 2016 23 hours ago, Ianc1971 said: I've got a really bad recording of this track and its really hard to make out the lyrics. I've searched for them but i've had no joy. Can anyone enlighten me? I think this is fairly close: "I can't give you up, no, I can't let you go, I can't let you leave, coz I still need you so, So baby please, baby don't leave, stay, I'm begging you please help, I'm drowning in my tears, coz my love for you is burning in my heart You're gonna miss my love if you should go away You'll thank your lucky stars if you decide to stay Oh baby, I'll change in every way, if you tell me you'll stay Hey yeah, I'm begging on my knees, please baby, if you'll only please help (break) You're gonna miss my love, if you should go away, You'll thank your lucky stars if you decide to stay, Oh baby, I'll change in every way, if you tell me you'll stay, Help, I'm begging on my knees, please baby, if you'll only please help (Please stay, please stay, please stay...) (fade) Oh I need you only, please stay here, ooh I love you." 4
Ianc1971 Posted December 5, 2016 Author Posted December 5, 2016 To be honest i've listen to it a lot since posting this and this line is the only bit i just couldnt work out. "Oh baby, I'll change in every way, if you tell me you'll stay" 10/10 Soul16. It was driving me round the bend.
Ianc1971 Posted December 5, 2016 Author Posted December 5, 2016 In fact ive just listened to it again and theres something missing "Oh baby, I'll change in every way, (two or three words here) if you tell me you'll stay" Sounds like "Oh baby, I'll change in every way, Just for you, if you tell me you'll stay"
Soul16 Posted December 5, 2016 Posted December 5, 2016 3 minutes ago, Ianc1971 said: In fact ive just listened to it again and theres something missing "Oh baby, I'll change in every way, (two or three words here) if you tell me you'll stay" Sounds like "Oh baby, I'll change in every way, Just for you, if you tell me you'll stay" I think it's just 'if you' sung as 'if-a-you" I could be wrong of course
Ianc1971 Posted December 5, 2016 Author Posted December 5, 2016 No i think you're right. I'm just over complicating it
Popular Post Louise Posted December 5, 2016 Popular Post Posted December 5, 2016 Here you go Ianc1971 Please find the reply that I have just recieved regarding the lyric's to "Please Stay" from the songs composer Mr Tom Dorsey (straight from the horses mouth etc) Regards Dave Hi Dave Good to hear from you, The lyrics from the record to "Please Stay" are: I can't give you up No I can't let you go I can't let you leave 'cause I still need you so So, baby please don't leave stay I'm begging you please help, I'm drowning in my tears cause my love for you is burning in my heart You're gonna miss my love If you should go away But, you'll thank your lucky stars If you decide to stay Oh, baby I'll change in every way If you tell me you'll stay Help! I'm begging on my knees Pleading if you would help me please Help! Please stay Please stay The reason I say "from the record" is because some words were changed from the original. Hope this helped. Tom Dorsey 2 6
Ianc1971 Posted December 5, 2016 Author Posted December 5, 2016 Thanks Louise thats tip top !!!! Well done Soul16 100% right
Steve G Posted December 5, 2016 Posted December 5, 2016 18 minutes ago, Louise said: Here you go Ianc1971 Please find the reply that I have just recieved regarding the lyric's to "Please Stay" from the songs composer Mr Tom Dorsey (straight from the horses mouth etc) Regards Dave Hi Dave Good to hear from you, The lyrics from the record to "Please Stay" are: I can't give you up No I can't let you go I can't let you leave 'cause I still need you so So, baby please don't leave stay I'm begging you please help, I'm drowning in my tears cause my love for you is burning in my heart You're gonna miss my love If you should go away But, you'll thank your lucky stars If you decide to stay Oh, baby I'll change in every way If you tell me you'll stay Help! I'm begging on my knees Pleading if you would help me please Help! Please stay Please stay The reason I say "from the record" is because some words were changed from the original. Hope this helped. Tom Dorsey Cheers Louise. I thought for a moment there your hours on the ouija board had put you in contact with the spirit of Florence Greenberg or something Very sad lyrics they are.
Louise Posted December 5, 2016 Posted December 5, 2016 11 minutes ago, Steve G said: Cheers Louise. I thought for a moment there your hours on the ouija board had put you in contact with the spirit of Florence Greenberg or something Very sad lyrics they are. Hey Steve No super natural shenanigans here just a plain ole' e-mail I wonder how long it will be before they appear on a mug or a tee-shirt Dave
Steve L Posted December 6, 2016 Posted December 6, 2016 I've always struggled hearing lyrics clearly in a lot of records. Someone posted a while ago about the lyrics in the Formations At The Top Of The Stairs and I found it brought a whole new element to the record listening to it while reading the lyrics. Same for this one, its unbelievable really how different the record sounds when you know what the singer is actually singing!
Okehdownsouth Posted December 6, 2016 Posted December 6, 2016 One of my favourite all time records and as usual I have been singing along with words that make no sense and bear no relation to the actual lyrics. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU ALL SO VERY MUCH I will copy these and put them in the sleeve of my pristine Dispenza copy 1
Julianb Posted December 6, 2016 Posted December 6, 2016 3 minutes ago, Okehdownsouth said: One of my favourite all time records and as usual I have been singing along with words that make no sense and bear no relation to the actual lyrics. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU ALL SO VERY MUCH I will copy these and put them in the sleeve of my pristine Dispenza copy Is this a one off copy? I have only heard of the Despenza and Wand labels for this 45
Popular Post Steve G Posted December 7, 2016 Popular Post Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) A shameless plug for my book for all Ivories / Ivorys fans...... Edited December 7, 2016 by Steve G 2 4
Ianc1971 Posted December 7, 2016 Author Posted December 7, 2016 Its a cracker. A tad overplayed by myself
Guest Posted December 9, 2016 Posted December 9, 2016 On 04/12/2016 at 21:34, Ianc1971 said: your right pal it is all about the sound. But when i'm singing along in my head i'd just like to get it right and just not make up mu own lyrics haha Yes, but that`s the way it should be......then we can all point and laugh!
Ianc1971 Posted December 9, 2016 Author Posted December 9, 2016 On 05/12/2016 at 21:16, Soul16 said: I think it's just 'if you' sung as 'if-a-you" The more i hear it the more abvious it becomes. Amazing when you actually know the lyrics 1
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