Guest BabyBoyAndMyLass Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 God I'm glad this didn't happen... Around 96ish I had a dilemma, the music biz had dried up for me, I didn't join Oasis, couldn't get on with Ryder and the mondays, they wanted musos they could push around, where I was a guy that would've laid the Gallaghers out or Ryder with one punch...Damn that held me back. Besides, in them days I had stopped playing Blackpool tower with my uncle in the Steve Dennis combo (northern club goers would understand) I later met Alan Magee through an album cover artist and he wished he'd known me at that time, great arranger I am, nowadays I arrange and play bass onstage for Cornwalls' highest paid cabaret RnR 50s and 60s band but it's still only small time. A big drop from the heady heights of my Goth days, supporting Sisters of Mercy, The Cult, New Model Army etc, we never made it, a result of my suspicious nature regarding men in suits waving contracts around with lots of small print on them, but...I digress. I had three kids, the car repairs business wasn't going too well, lots of welding and building RS200 replicas from Mk2 Escorts wasn't paying the bills very much. In music terms my 'stick' was an ornament on the wall hanging by a string, the fact it was a 4001S was meaningless at the time, I had very little in monetary terms. What about this gas/phone/electric bill? What about the mortgage? Were my lovely wifes mantras at the time. In short I needed one hundred quid and fast. Nowadays I have big collections of Series 1 Land Rovers, vintage guitars, victorian mineral water bottles, Zeiss binoculars, loads of eclectic interesting stuff but then I had one thing that I thought I could sell, my northern soul 45s. So I phoned a few guys, pretty well known to this day, they post here at SS. The records a 100 count box were, to me precious, MVPs, Younghearts, Gwen Owens, Tomangoes, Barbara Randolph, Dobie Gray, Rubin, Johnny Sayles, The Gems, Susan Barrett, Herbert hunter...You get the picture. 'I'll take a look' was the reply, I had to walk to the other side of town, didn't even have enough petrol or any insurance to drive, the only insurance I had were the trade plates for my bonnetted FG that was insured Recovery for business use only at the garage where I worked, I walked nonetheless, me bing so bad that I daren't drive, my old man bless 'im said I had ' your own seat at the law courts' due to my numerous convictions for violence, drugs and driving (believe it or not it was classed as 'occupational hazard' at the garage I worked at, getting done)... He looked at the records ' quid apiece I want' (hundred quid bill) 'Johnny sayle on St Lawrence...nah, MVPS nah, Gwen Owens pfft!' It wasn't hapnin. 'But...I have a Tomangoes, that's gotta be twenny quid?' 'Nah it's a reissue, look it says Nashville 95, it's a 1995 reissue' I knew I'd had it longer than that. No offer was coming on the whole box. 'You might try Steve' this was the guy that introduced me to Heroin at 17, so off to his I went... 'I'll give you twenty quid for the box, there's nothing in there but I might sell some for 50p each'... I walked home dejected and told the dog to 'F**k off' when I got home, only temporarily, he was my best mate... I fronted the wife out and within days had a Talbot to weld, not a Horizon but the smaller sunbeam one, forget now, it was a couple hundred quid job. Did that and fifty notes from work, bill paid and even bought some hash from the rastas... Everything comes right, my Stick stayed on the wall, I made a point of playing all my records, we had f*** all but as the fabulous furry freak brothers said 'Times with money and no dope are far harder than times with dope and no money'. So glad that I didn't get a bite on the 45s, here they are now, so many memories, most were gifts from women at niters, I'll let you into a secret here from my womanising days, you didn't hassle them at niters...no, they hassled me, being so young, that's why I was called Babyboy, in the end I settled down with one but that's a whole heap of other stories, my Tomangoes Nashville boot may be worthless but hell, you won't buy it off me, I still remember Jenny who bought it for me, yeah 19 and being shown the 'ins and outs' by a woman of 34, who cares if it's a reissue? Those same records all have a value now, Out of the past boots, Kent 6ts aniversaries all have a value now. Best wishes, Simon, mad collector/hoarder of worthless junk. More stories of this nature wanted...
Soulstu Posted October 23, 2016 Posted October 23, 2016 Don't ever sell the Ricky!!!!! a work of art mate!
Guest BabyBoyAndMyLass Posted October 23, 2016 Posted October 23, 2016 36 minutes ago, SoulStu said: Don't ever sell the Ricky!!!!! a work of art mate! Hi, interesting comment. I've had quite a few Rickies over the years, including a 58 Capri but my early 70s 4001S has been with me since I was about 16, I would never part with it now, tell me more Stu, I'm always very interested in anything anyone who knows what one is, has to say, I'm intrigued, have you seen me with it on YT? Are you talking Ricks in general?
Soulstu Posted October 23, 2016 Posted October 23, 2016 Ha ha I'm just a lover of all Rickys - I had an '81 Jetglo 330 (LH) for many years and it was by far the best guitar I've ever had - sounded absolutely fantastic - so versatile. I was the guitarist in a 3 piece indie band in the 80s and 90s. I never used it as a Weller/Townshend clone guitar, got quite a dirty sound out of it tbh, and I also take issue with the myth that the 330 is no good for lead work. Selling it in 95 is a massive regret and they are now well out of my price range. I started off as a bass player at the age of 16 and I always loved (although never owned) the 4001/4003 - it's a design classic - the horseshoe magnet, the upper horn (phwoar!). If you're interested in vintage guitars I've got a nice '63 Hofner Verithin (stock Bigsby) under the bed. My main guitar these days is a Jazzmaster (I've also got a '76 Precision and a 'workhorse' strat - although I've never really liked them!). Gone a bit off topic methinks ha ha!!
Guest BabyBoyAndMyLass Posted October 23, 2016 Posted October 23, 2016 Nah not off topic this thread was about collecting junk and selling it or not... See your in Sheffield, well 1980s I was often in that area supporting Yorkshire bands like sisters, cult and all them, we might've played ont same bill! 81 jetglo 330, mmm mmm, mouth watering! Best wishes maaan!
Dave Fleming Posted October 24, 2016 Posted October 24, 2016 The Tomangoes with the Nashville 95 stamp in the run out is a 60s original,not a mid 70s pressing/boot. Dave f.........
Guest BabyBoyAndMyLass Posted October 24, 2016 Posted October 24, 2016 29 minutes ago, Dave Fleming said: The Tomangoes with the Nashville 95 stamp in the run out is a 60s original,not a mid 70s pressing/boot. Dave f......... Thanks mate, don't tell me you're here all week! It's the way you tell 'em!
Guest BabyBoyAndMyLass Posted October 24, 2016 Posted October 24, 2016 24 minutes ago, Dave Fleming said: No only Mondays and Thursdays! Lol, but nah I had it explained to me by an expert, it says Detroit on the label but is stamped Nashville in the dead wax, not only that but the Washpan is printed way offcentre and is obviously wrong, matey didn't want to buy it as part of a whole cheap box of good stuff, I thought that folks bought records on the strength of being a good tune, hadn't heard of OVO in them days! I don't care anyway, its a killer record and plays great, it's been stashed away since that day, I have it on Elaine Constantines' CD nowadays! Best wishes!
Guest BabyBoyAndMyLass Posted October 25, 2016 Posted October 25, 2016 (edited) 22 hours ago, Dave Fleming said: The Tomangoes with the Nashville 95 stamp in the run out is a 60s original,not a mid 70s pressing/boot. Dave f......... Thanks for this. I had taken your comment as a joke, but I get it now, I've looked on Popsike and Discogs, which I wouldn't have known about save for this site, it seems you weren't joking at all The record is stamped NASHVILLE and has a B side, the reissues it looks like they are the same both sides, I knew it wasn't a 1995 reissue as I had it in the late 80s. Even the p***ed up writing is the same! So those dealers really did make a cockup. It could be worth a few bob, not only that but it's in absolutely pristine condition, not even any initials written on the label. Gonna look it up on here next. It's gonna be a great talking point at soul dos, might take it to an OVO event and get it played too! I really do know nothing about records I just rate them on the tune. Wonder how many of my 45s are originals? Can see me developing a new obsession researching 'em! Yours, 'Tomangoes Simon'! Thanks very much Dave! Edited October 25, 2016 by BabyBoyAndMyLass Grammar
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