Mike Posted September 16, 2016 Posted September 16, 2016 Here are, the written word becomes the internet Frank has a go at soul police/nazis, top djs and 'richer' collectors checkin it out indeed image on facebook 1
Jaco Posted September 16, 2016 Posted September 16, 2016 It's appears to be a bit of a quantum leap to doing a review of an oldies night to labelling certain DJ's as Soul Nazi's. There is no context to that in the review so it can be assumed he just wanted to get it off his chest. Strange.
Bbrich Posted September 16, 2016 Posted September 16, 2016 Quote..."covering up a record is just a way to keep it secret in case someone with a good 'ear' has bought it but does not know its being played, and to artificially keep the price high. I think its fairly close to fraud...." am i missing something here because i would have thought a dj covers up the record to keep it 'exclusive' and if they were to sell it then the real record is revealed. As for people who own the record but dont realise the 'coverup' is increasing the demand are possibly going to sell it cheaper without realising i.e. the price will stay artificially lower not higher ? 1
Bbrich Posted September 16, 2016 Posted September 16, 2016 Also quote "many collectors have got most of the rarest sounds" a bit of a contradiction surely, by definition the 'rarest' sounds must only be owned by a few ! 3
Popular Post Woodbutcher Posted September 16, 2016 Popular Post Posted September 16, 2016 The article reads like the 4am ramblings of a sad old man who's had one too many oldies night and one too many cheap scotch ... 5
Popular Post Woodbutcher Posted September 16, 2016 Popular Post Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, bbrich said: Also quote "many collectors have got most of the rarest sounds" a bit of a contradiction surely, by definition the 'rarest' sounds must only be owned by a few ! Should read ... "Got most of the rarest sounds on shite repro bootlegs" Edited September 16, 2016 by WoodButcher 5
Seano Posted September 16, 2016 Posted September 16, 2016 5 hours ago, Jaco said: It's appears to be a bit of a quantum leap to doing a review of an oldies night to labelling certain DJ's as Soul Nazi's. There is no context to that in the review so it can be assumed he just wanted to get it off his chest. Strange. Strange indeed, and just listing the records for 3/4 of the review doesn't make for a very interesting read. Nothing wrong with enjoying the classics, don't get me wrong, just that it would be of more interest to me to hear a bit about the club, how well attended, sense of where punters travel from, I don't know, just a bit less of the lists!
Popular Post Shinehead Posted September 16, 2016 Popular Post Posted September 16, 2016 That playlist sounds like one these Northern Soul cds that will be appearing around November for Christmas , some of those records played were overplayed oldies in the seventies. 5
Jez Jones Posted September 16, 2016 Posted September 16, 2016 I don't think we should get too hung up on Franks style and content of writing...after all it's served him well..for longer than most of us can remember. to quote the man '.......Listening to,and dancing to great Soul music is the name of the game after all' ....pretty much nails it.. imho 2
Popular Post Quinvy Posted September 16, 2016 Popular Post Posted September 16, 2016 Forgot to mention all the merchandise, sixty inch bags, and circle skirts with matching hair ribbons. 4
Frankie Crocker Posted September 16, 2016 Posted September 16, 2016 An interesting review until Frank got on his soap box. No collector has all the rare records, not even Tim as he has been flogging them. A few collectors have truly fantastic collections with many great rarities but there are lots more skint collectors out there buying as much as possible but will never own the thousands of rarest records. I suspect most DJ's on the circuit have a hotbox of in-sounds plus classics plus a few mega-rarities plus a few unknowns - no big deal in my books. 2
Popular Post Russ Vickers Posted September 16, 2016 Popular Post Posted September 16, 2016 When was this written 1976 ??? Russ 5
skiinspain Posted September 16, 2016 Posted September 16, 2016 Yaaaawwwwwwnnnnnnnnn same old thing the same old way, he should stick to what he knows, writing about stuff he actually has some idea about. Sounds like a review that was done in 1973 !!!!!!!!!!!!!. Some of us have moved on since then, thank God !!!!. 3
Guest Polyvelts Posted September 16, 2016 Posted September 16, 2016 Love the picture sleeves ! White guys win 13 - 6
Kegsy Posted September 16, 2016 Posted September 16, 2016 1 hour ago, Russ Vickers said: When was this written 1976 ??? Russ 53 minutes ago, skiinspain said: Yaaaawwwwwwnnnnnnnnn same old thing the same old way, he should stick to what he knows, writing about stuff he actually has some idea about. Sounds like a review that was done in 1973 !!!!!!!!!!!!!. Some of us have moved on since then, thank God !!!!. The above two posts just go to show how much the scene has moved on, since Levine eventually got the Carstairs on a Red Coach demo . 1
Popular Post Markw Posted September 16, 2016 Popular Post Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) You'd think after "covering Northern Soul for 50 years" he might have (a) got it by now (b) got bored with hearing the same old tunes over and over and tried somewhere a bit different? All a bit irrelevant and hopelessly out of touch. Edited September 16, 2016 by markw 6
Modernsoulsucks Posted September 16, 2016 Posted September 16, 2016 4 hours ago, Quinvy said: Forgot to mention all the merchandise, sixty inch bags, and circle skirts with matching hair ribbons. I told you at the time the skirt didn't hang right on your hips so it's no good complaining now.
Guest Spain pete Posted September 17, 2016 Posted September 17, 2016 misses the point variety is the spice of life especially when it comes to music??
SHEFFSOUL Posted September 17, 2016 Posted September 17, 2016 at least he is consistent..boring drivel..journalist..pah!..he had a small column in a cult-ist music mag..the only thing worthy of note were the odd tunes DJs were spinning..and almost all were mis-spelt..deluded! 1
Frankie Crocker Posted September 17, 2016 Posted September 17, 2016 So Frank, go and sit next to Ian in Room 101. 2
Ric-tic Posted September 17, 2016 Posted September 17, 2016 Waste of a tree a whole page to talk about nothing, Blues & Soul bring back Richard Searling
Flanny Posted September 17, 2016 Posted September 17, 2016 Elvis Costello I don't want to go to Chelsea sorry I meant Accrington cooking caveman!
La Beat 6606 Posted September 17, 2016 Posted September 17, 2016 Reads like Frank Elson had writer's block this week. A list of plays and a token description of the night doesn't cut it on the journalistic front (imo). As for Fraud, don't you have to be unwitting in that deception? You only had to look at the blank label spinning on the deck when Richard was at the height of his major cover ups at Wigan. Back then the average soulie was hard pressed to get the money together to go to an allnighter never mind buy exclusive records. The cover ups all added to the magic of certain DJ's and travelling to the venues to hear those records. 2
Local Posted September 17, 2016 Posted September 17, 2016 (edited) I remember his first column in Blues and Soul and having read this latest offering I can see many similarity's. Back in the seventies when Blues and Soul dropped Dave Godin & Frank Elson replaced him (I use that term very loosely) from the first words in his first column it was obvious to most of us that he didn't have a clue what the Northern scene was about. Moving forward with this latest piece of journalistic ??? rubbish I can see no evidence to suggest that he has learned anything at all during the last 40 years. Edited September 17, 2016 by local 3
Julianb Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 Think he needs to stick to writing about Land Rovers!!
Steve S 60 Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 The man can't even get the name of the venue right. It's the Poplar Club, not the Popular Club as used in the article title, although he manages to correct his mistake later on.
Guest johnny hart Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 Freedom to have a Pop! Comments about. Soul Nazis and Police are deplorable! But Mr Elson as always reports what he is told and I would suggest many of the ,re-inactors, baggy trousered fraternity would echo his comments; and why not to many with broader perspectives Ns is simply one big nostalgia trip ,like Elvis afficianados! 30 comments hurling abuse at the rather innocuous Francis, Live And Let Live, to many its Still Simply ; "One Wonderful Moment" Johnny.
Mike Posted September 20, 2016 Author Posted September 20, 2016 16 minutes ago, conchitta said: Freedom to have a Pop! Comments about. Soul Nazis and Police are deplorable! But Mr Elson as always reports what he is told and I would suggest many of the ,re-inactors, baggy trousered fraternity would echo his comments; and why not to many with broader perspectives Ns is simply one big nostalgia trip ,like Elvis afficianados! 30 comments hurling abuse at the rather innocuous Francis, Live And Let Live, to many its Still Simply ; "One Wonderful Moment" Johnny. hurling abuse ? wise up please, people commenting on someones public writings is not 'abuse' 2
Popular Post Chalky Posted September 20, 2016 Popular Post Posted September 20, 2016 He is a relic of the past, he writes about dancing to records 40 years ago and of dancing to same records today. Those he slags of are simply following the ideals the main room at Wigan had. He and far too many others are still in Mr M's. Blues & Soul has very little relevance or influence on today's scene. 10
Markw Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 57 minutes ago, chalky said: He is a relic of the past, he writes about dancing to records 40 years ago and of dancing to same records today. Those he slags of are simply following the ideals the main room at Wigan had. He and far too many others are still in Mr M's. Blues & Soul has very little relevance or influence on today's scene. Spot on mate. 2
Frankie Crocker Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 2 hours ago, conchitta said: Freedom to have a Pop! Comments about. Soul Nazis and Police are deplorable! But Mr Elson as always reports what he is told and I would suggest many of the ,re-inactors, baggy trousered fraternity would echo his comments; and why not to many with broader perspectives Ns is simply one big nostalgia trip ,like Elvis afficianados! 30 comments hurling abuse at the rather innocuous Francis, Live And Let Live, to many its Still Simply ; "One Wonderful Moment" Johnny. Utter clap trash. Northern Soul is about listening to rare dance-music sourced mainly from the USA, generally dating from the late 60's or early 70's, SIMPLES. The interpretation quoted above reads like the misinformed tabloid journalist's take that finds it way into general circulation. Frank Elson lost the plot years ago and plainly has regressed over the decades, as yet again, he fails to report objectively.
Russ Vickers Posted September 27, 2016 Posted September 27, 2016 On 17 September 2016 at 16:19, ric-tic said: Waste of a tree a whole page to talk about nothing, Blues & Soul bring back Richard Searling I didnt like his adverts column either... Russ 1
Ady Croasdell Posted September 27, 2016 Posted September 27, 2016 That's piss poor writing and innacurate criticism. 2
Bossfourpart1 Posted September 27, 2016 Posted September 27, 2016 (edited) I would have thought 50 years of soul would have ammounted to more than that !!!! Frank (from Norwich ) Edited September 27, 2016 by Bossfourpart1
Professorturnups Posted September 27, 2016 Posted September 27, 2016 It's a good job he didn't hear Rob Smith's sets at Lifeline, he would have been utterly despondent because from what I remember Rob played nothing from the top 500. Mark C 1
Tai-pan Posted September 27, 2016 Posted September 27, 2016 Come on Frank, spill the beans. What is that cover-up record that you've recently heard a top rich nazi DJ play, which is obviously the greatest record you've heard in years and which is filling you with all this sense of lack, jealousy and frustration? Don't worry you're not missing out on anything because anyone with a "good ear" will find it in one of those £10 cheapie boxes before too long. Who is Frank Elston anyway? I'm not being sarcastic, it's an honest question. In life, we only see what we are projecting out.
Keith Money Posted September 27, 2016 Posted September 27, 2016 4 hours ago, Bossfourpart1 said: I would have thought 50 years of soul would have ammounted to more than that !!!! Frank (from Norwich ) No, crap taste is crap taste regardless of how old you are or how long you have been on the scene, or not on the scene as it would appear as I have never seen him at anything thank god. 1
Woodbutcher Posted September 28, 2016 Posted September 28, 2016 (edited) 1028. Edited September 28, 2016 by WoodButcher 1
Steve G Posted September 28, 2016 Posted September 28, 2016 (edited) Totally bizarre. The first 80% of the article is about an oldies night that he obviously enjoyed himself at…..and it's a fair enough article as reviews go. And then, BOOM car crash, he suddenly goes into a manic rant at the end. It's almost like someone either bent his ear or phoned him up and told him bout these nazis, Top DJs throwing rattles out of prams, rich collectors, horrible cover ups etc. Anyway there is only one person who uses the term "nazis" to describe people into rare soul as far as I am aware. It is an over used and casually mis-used term, and is more than mildly offensive when you consider what the real nazis did. Disappointing, Frank should stick to his fishing etc. if this is the extent of his contribution these days. The good news is I don't think more than a handful of people into Northern or rare soul actually still buy B&S. Edited September 28, 2016 by Steve G grammar
Rudzy Posted September 28, 2016 Posted September 28, 2016 FRANK THE CRANK. Frankie...Get your ass on here and explain yourself...you gone too far this time. Thanks for selling me that ANN SEXTON tune back in 74 ... you were soul police #1 then always ahead of the game. DUDE!!
Guest Posted September 29, 2016 Posted September 29, 2016 On 20/09/2016 at 15:20, Steve S 60 said: The man can't even get the name of the venue right. It's the Poplar Club, not the Popular Club as used in the article title, although he manages to correct his mistake later on. And he got one thing correct......it`s a great venue, but a bit hand-baggie at times and records played are not all orig!
Tlscapital Posted September 29, 2016 Posted September 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Steve Lane said: And he got one thing correct......it`s a great venue, but a bit hand-baggie at times and records played are not all orig! That I didn't know. That just makes all his musical taste UND knowledge claiming on what is "the best ol' soul music" and all his insulting gibberish squeak to real records, DJ's who don't vote Labour (or worse !!!) and "collectors" who pay (or crate dig) to get their records (bring back Robin Hood) even more worthless IMHO ! Maybe he thought to himself that he was in the nice'N'beautiful country where everyone's nice and cute but where the bad'N'nasties are that and can be despised eh ! Where it's actually the other way around but we are not outrageous on those matters. Ever since I can remember that it's only those preventive words passed on to say to avoid (mp3's, no OVO's, TOP 500's or cheapskate sounds from whatever edit thingy) on some venues like a good advise, right ? Don't eat or drink that you're gonna fall ill ! You do that will people you care for. But not in a scandalous way or behavior me think.
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